Chief Executive, Department of Justice v Wise and Wise Real Estate Pty Ltd & Anor [2025] QCAT 324
QUEENSLAND CIVIL AND
ADMINISTRATIVE TRIBUNAL
CITATION: Chief Executive, Department of Justice v Wise and Wise
Real Estate Pty Ltd & Anor [2025] QCAT 324
PARTIES: CHIEF EXECUTIVE, DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE
(applicant)
v
WISE AND WISE REAL ESTATE PTY LTD
(first respondent)
CARLY DAKOTAH WISE
(second respondent)
APPLICATION NO/S: OCR345-21
MATTER TYPE: Occupational regulation matters
DELIVERED ON: 25 August 2025
HEARING DATE: On-Papers hearing
HEARD AT: Brisbane
DECISION OF: Judicial Member Rinaudo AM
Member D Brown
ORDERS: The application for miscellaneous matters (recusal)
dated 19 August 2025 is refused.
CATCHWORDS: ADMINISTRATIVE LAW – QUEENSLAND CIVIL AND
ADMINISTRATIVE TRIBUNAL – PRACTICE AND
PROCEDURE – BIAS – application for miscellaneous
matters – application to recuse on the grounds of actual bias
and apprehended bias – rulings made in on-the-papers
directions and hearings – duplicate grounds – no bias or
apprehended bias shown
Property Occupations Act 2014 (Qld)
Queensland Civil and Administrative Tribunal Act 2009
(Qld)
Charisteas v Charisteas [2021] HCA 29
Chief Executive, Department of Justice v Wise and Wise
Real Estate Pty Ltd & Anor [2025] QCAT 222
Craven & Ors v Kataria & Ors [2024] QCATA 127
Department of Justice v Wise and Wise Real Estate Pty Ltd
& Anor [2025] QCAT
Dural (a pseudonym) v The Queen [2021] VSCA 82
Ebner v Official Trustee in Bankruptcy (2000) 205 CLR
337
Maffey v Mueller [2016] QCATA 19
Michael Wilson & Partners Ltd v Nicholls [2011] HCA 48
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QYFM v Minister for Immigration, Citizenship, Migrant
Services and Multicultural Affairs [2023] HCA 15
Sayed v National Disability Insurance Agency (No 2)
[2022] FCA 1591
APPEARANCES &
REPRESENTATION:
This matter was heard and determined on the papers
pursuant to s 32 of the Queensland Civil and Administrative
Tribunal Act 2009 (Qld)
Applicant: Reedy, J – Principal Legal Officer, Legal Advice and
Advocacy, Department of Justice
Respondents: Self-represented
REASONS FOR DECISION
Background
[1] The Chief Executive, Department of Justice (previously known as the Department of
Justice and Attorney General) (‘DOJ’) filed an application on 21 December 2021
seeking the tribunal conduct proceedings to decide whether a discipline ground is
established against the respondents Wise and Wise Real Estate Pty Ltd (‘Wise and
Wise Realty’) and Ms Carly Dakotah Wise (‘Ms Wise’). The application has been on
foot for over three and a half years.
[2] The application was listed for 5-day hearings on 11 to 15 November 2024 and 17 to
21 March 2025, both of which were vacated at Ms Wise’s request due to medical
reasons. The application proceeded to trial on 21, 27, 28 and 29 May 2025, 2 and 3
June 2025 and 17 and 18 July 2025. Ms Wise attended the hearing on all dates except
17 July 2025, by way of TEAMS link and noted she was appearing under duress. Ms
Wise did not attend on 17 July 2025.
[3] The applicant’s evidence is completed, and their case is closed. The one witness for
the respondents that the DOJ sought to cross examine, was cross examined on 17 July
2025 and the only evidence left to hear is the cross examination of Ms Wise. The
proceedings are adjourned until 17 and 18 September 2025 to enable the cross
examination of Ms Wise by the DOJ.
[4] On 19 August 2025 at 8.25pm, Ms Wise sent the tribunal an email attaching a Form
40 Application for Miscellaneous Matters, together with 19-page submissions and a
31-page unsigned document purporting to be an affidavit. While the cover email
asserts this is a Notice of Recusal, the Form 40 Application for Miscellaneous Matters
does not state what orders or directions are sought and simply states “see attached”.
The submissions are repetitive and convoluted but purport to give a formal legal notice
to Member D Brown and Judicial Member Rinaudo that “they are disqualified from
further adjudication under the Ebner test and the principles of procedural fairness”.
Ms Wise demands on multiple occasions through the submissions that Member D
Brown and Judicial Member Rinaudo immediately recuse themselves and take no
further part in these proceedings. Ms Wise purports to give the tribunal 48 hours from
her filing the submission to recuse themselves and cease and desist from further
directions or conduct in the proceedings, as well as providing reasons and disclosure
she asserts was withheld, failing which she asserts she will treat the proceedings as
void, invalid and an abuse of process and immediately seek to institute various legal
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proceedings and make formal complaints, including to the Crime and Corruption
Commission.
[5] Ms Wise also seeks to formally demand written answers be provided to her from the
tribunal within seven days to 40 questions she raises about issues of jurisdiction,
suppression of evidence, procedural fairness and natural justice, model litigant
principles, the consideration of medical certificates, the annexure C document, and
the tribunal’s conduct and directions issued. These issues have already been ventilated
with the parties in both written reason and throughout the conduct of the proceedings.
[6] A party to a proceeding has no right to demand that the tribunal make a certain
decision or create documents to provide to the parties. Nor can a party seek to dictate
how long the tribunal should take to respond to an application. A party can of course
seek to make an application and request the tribunal make certain orders or direction,
but ultimately any decision is for the tribunal’s consideration on the facts and law
which are applicable, and it is for the tribunal to determine how and whether to
exercise any discretion.
[7] The tribunal will not be responding to Ms Wise’s demand for written answers. These
issues have already been addressed in the written decisions provided to the parties, or
through the course of the hearing. Transcripts of which have already been provided to
the parties.
[8] The unsigned document/statement refers to further applications, not addressed in the
Form 40 application or submission, in relation to the summary dismissal and strike
out of the proceedings. As the respondents have filed no application for strike out or
dismissal and as strike out and stay matters have already been considered on numerous
occasions, these issues cannot be considered or ruled upon as they are not properly
brought before the tribunal.
[9] In relation to the issue of recusal, Ms Wise asserts that there is a pattern of
jurisdictional error, procedural unfairness, and bias in the proceedings. Ms Wise
raised various issues including suppression of evidence, denial of disclosure and cross
examination, jurisdictional issues, failure to accept her medical evidence, decisions
made in the applicant’s favour on every material issue, suppression of the
respondent’s evidence and facilitated the introduction of evidence of the applicant’s
behalf, failure to require the applicant to provide better particular, failure to provide
reasons and the tribunal ruling on the previous recusal applications
Legal considerations
[10] The legal principles in relation to bias, apprehension of bias and recusals has been
thoroughly articulated in the previous recusal decisions in this matter of Department
of Justice v Wise and Wise Real Estate Pty Ltd & Anor [2025] QCAT 93 (“first
decision”)1 and Chief Executive, Department of Justice v Wise and Wise Real Estate
Pty Ltd & Anor [2025] QCAT 2222 (“second decision”). The tribunal does not seek
to repeat the law here, other than to reiterate that the onus is on the person bringing
the application for recusal, in this case Ms Wise, to demonstrate the actual bias or
apprehension of bias. This must be firmly established by adducing evidence which
establishes, or from which a reasonable inference may be drawn, that the decision-
1 [19]–[32].
2 [9]–[18], [21].
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maker did not or may not, in fact, bring an impartial mind to the resolution of the
question the decision-maker is required to decide. Therefore, Ms Wise must
demonstrate:
(a) the fact, circumstances or event which constitutes the source of the bias or
prejudice;
(b) a feared deviation as a result of the bias or prejudice; and
(c) a logical connection between the source of the bias or prejudice and the feared
deviation as a result of the bias or prejudice.3
[11] The bare assertion that a decision-maker appeared to be biased through prejudgment
would be of no assistance without articulation of the connection between the events
giving rise to the apprehension of bias through prejudgment and the possibility of
departure from impartial decision making.4 The fact that a party has their claim
dismissed is not evidence of apprehended bias. The fact that errors may have occurred
in reaching a decision is also not evidence of apprehended bias.5
[12] The test is objective not subjective. The fact that Ms Wise asserts that she has lost
faith in fairness, neutrality and legality of the proceeding, is not sufficient and does
not demonstrate actual or perceived bias. It is not about whether Ms Wise has
reasonable perceived bias, but whether a fair-minded observer might reasonably
apprehend that the decision-maker might not bring an impartial mind to the resolution
of the question the decision-maker is required to decide.6
[13] A party’s objection to a particular decision-maker sitting or continuing to sit should
not prevail unless it is based upon persuasive substantive evidence demonstrating that
the decision-maker should be disqualified from hearing or deciding the case. As noted
in Ebner:7
Judges have a duty to exercise their judicial functions when their jurisdiction is
regularly invoked, and they are assigned to cases in accordance with the practice
which prevails in the court to which they belong. They do not select the cases
they will hear, and they are not at liberty to decline to hear cases without good
cause. Judges do not choose their cases; and litigants do not choose their judges.
If one party to a case objects to a particular judge sitting, or continuing to sit,
then that objection should not prevail unless it is based upon a substantial
ground for contending that the judge is disqualified from hearing and deciding
the case.
… if the mere making of an insubstantial objection were sufficient to lead a
judge to decline to hear or decide a case, the system would soon reach a stage
where, for practical purposes, individual parties could influence the
composition of the bench. That would be intolerable.8
3 Maffey v Mueller [2016] QCATA 19, [49].
4 Michael Wilson & Partners Ltd v Nicholls [2011] HCA 48, [63].
5 Craven & Ors v Kataria & Ors [2024] QCATA 127, [65].
6 Ebner v Official Trustee in Bankruptcy (2000) 205 CLR 337 (‘Ebner’); Charisteas v Charisteas (2021)
273 CLR 289; QYFM v Minister for Immigration, Citizenship, Migrant Services and Multicultural
Affairs [2023] HCA 15.
7 Ebner [19].
8 Ibid [20].
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Consideration
[14] Ms Wise has filed five previous applications for recusal on 2 December 2024, 19
January 2025, 6 February 2025, 7 May 2025 and 18 June 2025. All applications
largely raise the same issues. The prior applications for recusal were considered and
refused. Written reasons were provided to the parties on 26 February 2025,9 13 May
202510 and 18 June 2025.11
[15] The assertion made that “Members Brown and Rinaudo have refused to recuse
themselves, provided no reasons, and exercised judicial power unlawfully”12 is
rejected by the tribunal and plainly false. There are two publicly available published
decisions and one unpublished written reasons provided to the parties in relation to
the prior recusal applications. Ms Wise’s position that the tribunal determining an
application about their own recusal is evidence of bias, has already been addressed in
the second decision.13 Ms Wise’s position is rejected and is legally wrong.
[16] Ms Wise’s assertion that decisions have been made in the applicant’s favour on every
material issue, is not only false, noting numerous decisions adjourning the
proceedings and extending filing dates have been made in the respondent’s favour,
despite strong opposition by the DOJ, but is also insufficient to demonstrate actual
bias or that a reasonable person might reasonably apprehend that a tribunal member
might not bring an impartial mind to the resolution of the application. Multiple
applications may be refused from one party for multiple different reasons including
the applications being misguided or lacking in evidence. It is not about in whose
favour a decision was made, but how the tribunal considered the matter and came to
its decision, and whether that was based on a consideration of the facts and relevant
law.
[17] Many of the issues raised by Ms Wise in her application for recusal have already been
considered and determined in prior recusal applications. The concerns in relation to
the refusal to compel disclosure/discovery,14 jurisdictional issues and s 36(2) of the
Property Occupations Act 2014 (Qld) (“POA”);15 dismissal of the respondent’s
application/suppression of evidence and requests including for cross examination,16
denial of procedural fairness and use of medical certificates17 and collusion and
reliance’s on incorrect facts and law,18 have all been previously determined by the
tribunal.
[18] It is an abuse of process for a party to seek to relitigate issues already determined. Ms
Wise has not provided any new evidence on these issues to enliven then. Accordingly,
as the tribunal has already determined these issues, these are not further addressed in
this decision.
9 These reasons can be found at Department of Justice v Wise and Wise Real Estate Pty Ltd & Anor
[2025] QCAT 93 (“first decision”).
10 These reasons can be found at Chief Executive, Department of Justice v Wise and Wise Real Estate Pty
Ltd & Anor [2025] QCAT 222 (“second decision”).
11 This is an unpublished decision (“third decision”).
12 Applicant’s submissions filed 19 August 2025, [6.3].
13 [19]–[21].
14 First decision [77]–[82].
15 Second decision [26]–[27].
16 First decision [90]–[100]; Second decision [35]–[36], [38]–[39].
17 First decision [41]–[62].
18 Second decision [22]–[25].
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[19] In the unsigned written document Ms Wise purports to “object to directions issued on
14 August 2025”. This objection has no legal standing. The tribunal may give a
direction at any time in a proceeding and do whatever is necessary for the speedy and
fair conduct of proceedings,19 and a party must comply with a direction within the
statement period.20 If a party is unhappy with a direction issued by the tribunal and
believes a legal error has occurred, the party needs to seek leave to appeal, not just
complain to the tribunal and state they object.
[20] Disagreement with a ruling made by a judge or tribunal member does not establish
bias or apprehended bias.21 There are other avenues for a party who consider they
have not been afforded procedural justice or who believe a decision reveals error, but
a party’s grievances with respect to procedural matters is quite different to the
question of judicial bias. A claim of breach of procedural fairness does not in and of
itself demonstrate bias.22
[21] The only new grounds raised in the application for recusal is Ms Wise’s assertion that
there has been “a failure to provide written reasons” and “a failure to require clarity
or proper particularisation of the Applicant’s application.” These are addressed below.
Written reasons
[22] This issue has previously been addressed in part, in the second decisions.23 While Ms
Wise asserts that the tribunal has acted unlawfully and in error by refusing to provide
written reasons, she does not however provide any evidence to support this claim and
there is limited information as to the specifics of which decision she asserts reasons
have been requested and not provided. The tribunal has not on any occasion in this
matter refused to provide written reasons and there does not appear to have been any
such requests made in these proceedings.
[23] A party is not entitled to reasons in writing for decisions made during the proceedings,
as a right. In accordance with s 122(2) of the Queensland Civil and Administrative
Tribunal Act 2009 (Qld) (“QCAT Act”), a party to a proceeding may, within 14 days
after the tribunal’s decision takes effect, request reasons for certain decision. The
tribunal then generally has 45 days to provide the decision. The process for requesting
reasons for a decision are clearly explained on the QCAT website24 and the registry
have previously provided a link to this page to the parties in these proceedings.
Despite this, Ms Wise has not made any formal request for reasons.
Notice of particulars
[24] Ms Wise asserts that “Notices for Particulars” were ignored or dismissed and there
has been a failure to require property particularisation of the applicant’s case, causing
her disadvantage. It is assumed this relates to an application for miscellaneous matters
made by Ms Wise on 11 August 2025, which was considered by the tribunal and
refused. The decision was provided to the parties on 21 August 2025. It was also noted
in directions issued on 14 August 2025 that the tribunal did not agree that Ms Wise
19 QCAT Act s 62(1).
20 Ibid s 62(4).
21 Sayed v National Disability Insurance Agency (No 2) [2022] FCA 1591, [27].
22 Dural (a pseudonym) v The Queen [2021] VSCA 82, [33].
23 Second decision [41]–[42].
24 ‘Request reasons for a decision’, Queensland Civil and Administrative Tribunal (Web Page, 14 May
2025) <https://www.qcat.qld.gov.au/resources/request-reasons-for-a-decision>.
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required the applicant to further particularise their claim before she could respond.
This was to ensure Ms Wise was not under the misapprehension that she did not have
to comply with the filing directions.
[25] In relation to the request for further particulars, the crux of Ms Wise’s application was
that she wanted the tribunal to order that the DOJ file an amended application and a
sworn affidavit addressing 59 questions she wanted answered. Ms Wise asserts this is
necessary for her to understand the case against her, prepare a defence and file her
affidavit. The tribunal rejects this position and does not consider it either necessary or
appropriate at this stage in the proceedings to make the orders sought.
[26] The three grounds the DOJ are relying on to start the disciplinary proceedings are
clearly set out in the application filed back in December 2021. The application states
that the grounds are under section 172(1)(b)(i) of the POA, that the respondents have
contravened or breached the POA, section 172(1)(g)(i) of the POA, that the
respondents are not suitable people to hold a licence and section 172(1)(g)(iii), that
the respondents have in carrying on a business or performing an activity, been
incompetent or acted in an unprofessional way.
[27] The application provides further particulars of the breaches of the POA relied upon in
ground one, which are section 212(1) – false representation about property, section
221(1) – false and misleading documents and section 109(2) – failing to give a signed
copy of the appointment to the client. In addition to the application and signed
statements from multiple witnesses, the DOJ provided a document entitled “Annexure
B” which sets out the relevant parts of the witness statements the DOJ rely upon. The
application also references which paragraphs in Annexure B, are relied upon for which
ground.
[28] Amended copies of the application and Annexure B were provided by the DOJ in
February 2025, to remove details of statements withdrawn and no longer relied upon.
In addition, due to Ms Wise raising concerns that she did not understand the relevance
of three additional statements filed by the DOJ, with leave of the tribunal in August
2024, the tribunal directed that the DOJ file a further document entitled “Annexure C’
to identify in those three statements the relevant paragraphs relied upon.
[29] This information was sufficiently clear enough for Ms Wise to be able to file a 119-
page affidavit with 802 paragraphs in response in August 2024 and to file a further
456-page unsigned statement on 3 July 2025. In addition, all witnesses relied upon by
the DOJ have been made available for cross examination and have been cross
examined under oath/affirmation by Ms Wise and her support person Ms Curran.
[30] The tribunal does not accept that it is possible for Ms Wise to not be sufficiently clear
on the case against her. In addition, as the DOJ have closed their case, it would be
improper for the tribunal to direct them to file further material and an amended
application. To do so would also cause unnecessary delays in a matter which has
already been on foot for over three and a half years. The refusal of this application, in
these circumstances, would not lead a reasonable person to believe the tribunal
members predetermined the matter or would not bring an impartial mind to the
determination of the application.
Legal authorities relied upon
[31] Ms Wise has relied upon numerous High Court authorities which provide legal
principles about procedural fairness and bias. While the principles in these cases are
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largely not in dispute, the tribunal does not accept that there has been any failure to
follow these decisions and Ms Wise had failed to provide any evidence to demonstrate
the relevance of these authorities to this case and how they evidence
biased/apprehension of bias in relation to this matter.
[32] Ms Wise seeks to rely upon the well-known authority of Briginshaw v Briginshaw.25
While the tribunal accepts that given the significance of the allegations, there needs
to be clear, cogent, and reliable evidence before adverse findings are made, this
authority is not relevant to this application for recusal and Ms Wise’s reliance on this
case is misguided and does not support an application for recusal.
[33] No findings in relation to the application for disciplinary action have been made. It
may be as Ms Wise asserts that after consideration of the weight of the evidence some
or all of the claims may be dismissed, if the evidence is insufficient to support a
finding. However, it is inappropriate for the tribunal to make any determination of the
evidence at this time, until all the evidence, including the cross examination of Ms
Wise, has been heard.
[34] Ms Wise’s reliance on the principal of issue estoppel and the case of Blair v Curran,26
is also misguided. Not only does it not evidence bias/apprehension of bias, but the
statements made by Ms Wise are legally incorrect. In line with section 126(2) of the
QCAT Act, a final decision in a proceeding for a minor civil dispute does not prevent
the tribunal making a decision in a different proceeding about an issue considered
(whether or not decided) by the tribunal in the minor dispute matter. This section has
been previously identified to the parties both in written decisions and orally during
the proceedings.27
[35] Amongst the numerous case authorities Ms Wise seeks to rely upon is two purported
cases of Re Bowen [2010] QCAT 246, which she states references the right to fair
hearing and health accommodation and Brock v Medical Board [2020] QCAT 223,
which she asserts states the rejection of medical evidence is a denial of fairness. These
are false references as these cases do not exist. Ms Wise has been advised that these
citations belong to different cases and there appears to be no such cases with these
names, on three occasions in written decisions, the most recent on 12 August 2025
and on at least two other occasions orally during directions hearings. These citations
being non-existent cases has also been noted in a media article which Ms Wise took
exception to and raised an application about with the tribunal. Accordingly, there can
be no doubt that Ms Wise is aware that these cases do not exist.
[36] Ms Wise was warned in written reasons dated 12 August 2025 that the ongoing
reliance on non-existent cases in her submission is concerning and the only conclusion
which can be reached from Ms Wise’s ongoing reliance on false case references is
either that Ms Wise is seeking to mislead the tribunal, or that she has such little respect
for the tribunal that she disbelieves the tribunal when it states the case does not exist
and has taken no steps of her own to verify the accuracy of this citation.
Notwithstanding this warning, Ms Wise continues to rely upon non-existent cases.
[37] Ms Wise’s ongoing use of false cases in particular the false citations of Re Bowen and
Brock v Medical Board which she has been warned on multiple occasions do not exist,
25 (1938) 60 CLR 336.
26 (1939) 62 CLR 464.
27 Written Reasons – Strike out application, delivered on 17 March 2025, [35]–[36].
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is bordering on contemptuous. Ms Wise now runs a real risk of adverse findings of
credit in relation to her ongoing use of the false citations.
Conclusion
[38] Ms Wise’s arguments do not establish a logical connection between the alleged
deviation and the source of the bias. She has raised numerous legal principles about
procedural fairness and bias and relies on numerous sections of the QCAT Act and
other Acts that she believes are relevant to this matter but has failed to apply those
principles or provisions to the facts of this case to evidence how Member D Brown or
Judicial Member Rinaudo’s conduct falls short of the expectation of a tribunal
member or why a fair-minded observer would have any apprehension that either
member might not bring an impartial mind to the determination of the matter.
[39] The fact that a party has their claim dismissed is not evidence of apprehended bias.
The fact that errors may have occurred in reaching a decision is also not evidence of
apprehended bias.28 Ms Wise’s perception or belief about the tribunal or her assertion
that she has lost confidence in the tribunal is not evidence of bias. It is not about what
Ms Wise feels but about what a fair-minded observer would consider.
[40] Ms Wise has provided no cogent evidence which supports a finding of actual bias, or
which would lead a fair-minded observer to have an apprehension of bias. Ms Wise
has not established any basis upon which a fair-minded observer would consider
Judicial Member Rinaudo or Member D Brown has formed any fixed views about the
disciplinary proceedings or Ms Wise that are incapable of alteration or that the
Members might not bring an impartial mind to the determination of the disciplinary
proceedings.
[41] A member has a duty to hear cases for which they are scheduled and should recognise
that disqualification places a burden on the tribunal and other members and may cause
significant delay to the parties. In the circumstances of this matter, given the
proceedings have been on foot for three and a half years and all evidence but for the
cross examination of Ms Wise have already been heard, ongoing delays are not in the
interest of justice and need to be avoid, unless absolutely necessary.
[42] Accordingly, it is neither necessary nor appropriate for Judicial Member Rinaudo or
Member D Brown to recuse themselves or stand down from hearing the matter. The
application for recusal is refused and the panel constituted of Judicial Member
Rinaudo and Member D Brown will continue to hear the matter as scheduled at the
Tribunal Hearing on 17 and 18 September 2025.
28 Craven & Ors v Kataria & Ors [2024] QCATA 127, [65].
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Official source: https://www.sclqld.org.au/caselaw/QCAT/2025/324