Davey SG Pty Ltd t/as Supergeek v Welk [2017] QCATA 61
CITATION: Davey SG Pty Ltd t/as Supergeek v Welk
[2017] QCATA 61
PARTIES: Davey SG Pty Ltd t/as Supergeek
(Applicant/Appellant)
v
Brian James Welk
(Respondent)
APPLICATION NUMBER: APL038 -17
MATTER TYPE: Appeals
HEARING DATE: On the papers
HEARD AT: Brisbane
DECISION OF: Senior Member Stilgoe OAM
DELIVERED ON: 22 May 2017
DELIVERED AT: Brisbane
ORDERS MADE: 1. Leave to appeal granted.
2. Appeal allowed.
3. The decision of 20 January 2017 is set
aside and the proceeding is dismissed.
4. If Davey SG Pty Ltd t/as Supergeek has
paid any of the decision amount to Brian
James Welk, Brian James Welk shall
refund that amount to Davey SG Pty Ltd
t/as Supergeek within 14 days of this
order.
CATCHWORDS: APPEAL – LEAVE TO APPEAL – TRADE AND
COMMERCE – COMPTETITION, FAIR
TRADING AND CONSUMER PROTECTION
LEGISLATION – CONSUMER PROTECTION –
GUARANTEES, CONDITIONS AND
WARRANTIES IN CONSUMER LEGISLATION
– GUARANTEES, CONDITIONS AND
WARRANTIES – where computer platform no
longer supported – where computer company
installed alternative solution – where consumer
didn’t like alternative solution – where consumer
paid for another company to reload original
platform – where consumer did not pay for
alternative solution – where consumer claimed
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cost of reinstalling original platform – where
tribunal ordered compensation – whether
tribunal erred – whether grounds for leave to
appeal
APPEAL – LEAVE TO APPEAL – PROCEDURE
– CIVIL PROCEEDINGS IN STATE AND
TERRITORY COURTS – PROCEDURAL
ASPECTS OF EVIDENCE – MAKING
AVAILABLE PLANS, PHOTOGRAPHS, VIDEO
OR AUDIO RECORDINGS – where tribunal did
not accept recordings of telephone
conversations – whether failure to provide
procedural fairness – whether grounds for leave
to appeal
Competition and Consumer Act 2010 (Cth) Sch
2 (‘Australian Consumer Law’) ss 61, 267
Queensland Civil and Administrative Tribunal
Act 2009 (Qld) s 142(3)(a)(i)
Pickering v McArthur [2005] QCA 294
APPEARANCES and REPRESENTATION (if any):
This matter was heard and determined on the papers pursuant to s 32 of the
Queensland Civil and Administrative Tribunal Act 2009 (Qld) (QCAT Act).
REASONS FOR DECISION
[1] In May 2016, Microsoft sent Brian Welk an email, telling him that the
Windows Live 2012 email application would not be supported after June
2016. Mr Welk was advised that he would not be able to send or receive
emails in Windows Live 2012, that he should switch to the mail app built to
Windows 8.1 and Windows 10 or, if he was using Windows 7, upgrade to a
newer version.
[2] Mr Welk referred that email to Davey SG Pty Ltd t/as Supergeek. Supergeek
gave Mr Welk two options. He could upgrade to Windows 10 as suggested,
or it could load another email program onto his computer. Mr Welk chose to
have another program (Thunderbird) loaded onto his computer.
[3] Mr Welk didn’t like Thunderbird. He told the tribunal he didn’t receive any
follow up assistance. He did not pay Supergeek’s invoice of $135.
[4] Eventually, he took his computer to an alternative computer company. That
company, Time Out Computers, installed Windows live mail, set up an imap
solution for his Hotmail accounts and deleted Thunderbird. It charged Mr
Welk $198. Mr Welk was happy with this solution.
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[5] Mr Welk filed a claim in the tribunal for $641 made up of $330 for his wasted
time, $20 for petrol, $73.20 for a bank cheque and fees and reimbursement
of the $198 he paid Time Out. The tribunal ordered that Supergeek pay Mr
Welk $261.20.
[6] Supergeek wants to appeal that decision. Because this is an appeal from a
decision of the tribunal in its minor civil disputes jurisdiction, leave is
necessary.1 Leave to appeal will usually be granted where there is a
reasonable argument that the decision is attended by error, and an appeal
is necessary to correct a substantial injustice to the applicant caused by that
error.2
[7] Supergeek says the tribunal erred in not accepting:
a) Recordings of a call Mr Welk made to the Supergeek customer centre;
b) Supergeek’s CRM records showing a log of contact with Mr Welk;
c) The internal email trail between Supergeek and Mr Welk.
[8] Supergeek also says that the tribunal misapplied s 267 of the Australian
Consumer Law.
Did the tribunal err in refusing to accept Supergeek’s evidence?
[9] I read the transcript of the hearing carefully. Mr Davey, for Supergeek, did
not offer the CRM records or the internal email records to the tribunal. He
stated he had them and he told the tribunal what was contained in those
records.3
[10] The CRM records and the internal email records addressed whether or not
Supergeek tried to address Mr Welk’s concerns. It was not relevant to the
tribunal’s decision, which focussed on whether or not Supergeek’s initial
work was satisfactory. The tribunal was not in error in failing to accept the
evidence.
[11] Mr Davey did ask the tribunal if it would like to hear some recordings.4 The
tribunal declined. The tribunal in its minor civil disputes jurisdiction has
almost no capacity to receive electronic evidence. The evidence Mr Davey
wanted the tribunal to hear related to whether or not Supergeek’s call centre
was in the USA. It was not relevant to the tribunal’s decision. The tribunal
was not in error.
1 QCAT Act, s 142(3)(a)(i).
2 Pickering v McArthur [2005] QCA 294 at [3].
3 Transcript page 1-7, lines 20 – 24.
4 Transcript page 1-12, line 37.
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Did the tribunal misapply s 267 of the Australian Consumer Law?
[12] The tribunal did not refer to the Australian Consumer Law in its reasons for
decision. It found that, if Supergeek had not carried out incorrect work, Mr
Welk would not have incurred additional fees.
[13] Section 267 of the Australian Consumer Law allows a person to take action
against a supplier if the supplier breaches a guarantee under the Act. The
only guarantee that could apply in this case is the guarantee as to fitness for
a particular purpose.5
[14] It is not clear from the tribunal’s decision what the ‘incorrect work’ Supergeek
carried out was. The tribunal accepted that Mr Welk was told he had to
upgrade to Windows 10 but that his computer would not be capable of
running Windows 10.6
[15] The tribunal accepted that Mr Welk was told that Windows 7 could not be
reinstalled7 although there is, in fact, no evidence that Windows 7 was ever
deleted. Supergeek’s invoice did not state that Windows 7 was deleted. Time
Out’s invoice did not state that it reinstalled Windows 7 although it did state
that it reinstalled Windows Live.
[16] The tribunal accepted that Mr Welk was told he had to have a different email
system and that Thunderbird was installed as a consequence.8 The tribunal
accepted that Thunderbird did not allow for the transfer or Mr Welk’s emails.9
The tribunal accepted that Mr Welk was not a computer expert.10
[17] The evidence is silent about whether Supergeek advised Mr Welk that
Thunderbird would not transfer his emails. Mr Davey, for Supergeek, told the
tribunal that Mr Welk’s problem was that he did not know how to send emails
on Thunderbird and that he needed some technical advice about how to do
that.11
[18] And yet, the tribunal did not accept that Supergeek installed an acceptable
solution. There was no evidence before the tribunal that Thunderbird was
not fit for purpose. It was a solution that Mr Welk did not like, and for which
he needed training, but that is not the test. Thunderbird did what Supergeek
said it would do – it enables Mr Welk to access emails on his current platform.
The evidence could not support a finding that Supergeek’s work was not fit
for purpose.
[19] I accept that, if the tribunal found that Supergeek’s work was not fit for
purpose, and it is not a major failure, s 267 of the Australian Consumer Law
5 Competition and Consumer Act 2010 (Cth) Sch 2 (‘Australian Consumer Law’) s 61.
6 Transcript page 1-16, lines 29 – 32.
7 Transcript page 1-16, lines 34 – 35.
8 Transcript page 1-16, lines 35 – 36.
9 Transcript page 1-16, lines 36 – 37.
10 Transcript page 1-16, line 38.
11 Transcript page 1-9, lines 2 – 5.
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allows the tribunal to give Mr Welk the reasonable costs of having the failure
remedied.12 It would, however, be an odd result if Mr Welk could recover
Time Out’s costs when he did not pay Supergeek.
[20] The remedy for a major failure13 specifically refers to the reduction in value
for the services below the price paid for the services. It is, therefore,
reasonable to assume that the right to recover the costs of remedying the
failure can only arise if the original supplier had been paid. If that
interpretation is correct, Mr Welk’s damages, in any event, would be limited
to the difference between the Time Out invoice and the Supergeek invoice,
a difference of $63.
[21] The tribunal found that it could not compensate Mr Welk for his losses as a
result of Supergeek’s failure to supply a service fit for purpose. That is not
correct. If Mr Welk could demonstrate an actual loss or damage because of
a failure to supply a service fit for purpose, and he could support that claim
with evidence, he would be entitled to recover that loss. Mr Welk’s claim for
$60 per hour ‘waiting time’ for the repair had to be supported by evidence
that $60 per hour was a reasonable fee, and that he lost the opportunity to
charge his time out at that rate. As he did not provide evidence to support
those claims, the tribunal’s decision was correct.
[22] The tribunal correctly identified that it will not compensate a party for the
costs of preparing documents for the claim or appearing at the tribunal.
Conclusion
[23] The tribunal was in error in finding that Supergeek was in breach of its
obligations. Leave to appeal should be granted and the appeal allowed. The
decision of 20 January 2017 is set aside and the tribunal proceeding should
be dismissed. If Supergeek has paid any of the decision amount to Mr Welk,
Mr Welk shall refund that amount to Supergeek within 14 days of order.
12 Australian Consumer Law s 267(2)(b)(i).
13 Ibid s 267(3).
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Official source: https://www.sclqld.org.au/caselaw/QCATA/2017/061