CAT v Queensland Police Service [2017] QCATA 43
CITATION: CAT v Queensland Police Service [2017]
QCATA 43
PARTIES: CAT (Applicant/Appellant)
v
Queensland Police Service
(Respondent)
APPLICATION NUMBER: APL302-15
MATTER TYPE: Appeals
HEARING DATE: 21 March 2016
HEARD AT: Brisbane
DECISION OF: Senior Member Brown
Member J Allen
DELIVERED ON: 11 April 2017
DELIVERED AT: Brisbane
ORDERS MADE: 1. The appeal is allowed.
2. The decision of the Tribunal dated 12
June 2015 is set aside.
3. The matter is remitted to the Tribunal for
reconsideration according to law and in
accordance with these reasons.
4. Publication is prohibited of evidence
given before the Tribunal in this
proceeding and in GAR205-14 which may
identify the Applicant’s spouse.
5. These reasons, and any reasons in
GAR205-14, including any further
reasons, may be published only in a de-
identified format.
CATCHWORDS: APPEAL AND NEW TRIAL – APPEAL –
GENERAL PRINCIPLES – RIGHT OF APPEAL
– WHEN APPEAL LIES – ERROR OF LAW
FIRE, EXPLOSIVES AND FIREARMS –
FIREARMS – LICENSES AND RELATED
MATTERS – where licensee failed to hold
weapons in secure storage – where licensee
gave undertaking not to possess or acquire
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weapons in context of an application for a
temporary protection order – where licensee
assisted unlicensed persons to use his
weapons – whether licensee is a fit and proper
person to hold a weapons license
Australian Broadcasting Tribunal v Bond v
Bond (1990) 94 ALR 11
CAT v Queensland Police Service, Weapons
Licensing Branch [2015] QCAT 264
Hughes and Vale Pty Ltd v NSW (No 2)
(Transport Case) (1955) 93 CLR 127
Magarry v Queensland Police Service
Weapons Licensing Branch [2012] QCAT 378
Smith v Commissioner of Police NSW and Ors
[2014] NSWCATAD 184
Stower v Smart [2007] QDC 004.
Queensland Civil and Administrative Tribunal
Act 2009 (Qld) s 142(1), s 142(3)(b) s 147(1),
s 147(2), s 147(3)
Weapons Act 1990 (Qld) s 3(1)(a), a 3(1)(b),
s 3(2), s 10(2)(b), s 10(2)(c), s 10(2)(e), s
10B(1), s 10B(2)(a)(ii), s 10B(2)(b), s
24(2)(b)(i),
s 29(1)(d), s 49A(1), s 50(1), s 50A(1), s 52(1),
s 53(2), s 53, s 142(1), s 142(3)(b), s 155(1)(a),
Schedule 2
APPLICANT: Mr M. White of Counsel instructed by Butler
McDermott Lawyers
RESPONDENT: Mr M. Nicolson of Counsel instructed by the
Public Safety Business Agency
REASONS FOR DECISION
What is this appeal about?
[1] CAT was the holder of a weapons licence which was revoked by the
Queensland Police Service (QPS) on 22 May 2014. CAT applied to the
Tribunal to review that decision. The Tribunal confirmed the original
decision. CAT has appealed the Tribunal’s decision.
The statutory framework – the Weapons Act 1990 (Qld) (“the WA”)
[2] The object of the WA is to prevent the misuse of weapons.1 Two principles
underlay the WA. The first is that weapon possession and use are
1 WA, s 3(2).
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subordinate to the need to ensure public and individual safety.2 The
second is that public and individual safety is improved by imposing strict
controls on the possession of weapons and requiring the safe and secure
storage and carriage of weapons.3
[3] A weapons licence may only be issued to an individual if the person is,
among other things, a fit and proper person to hold a licence.4 In deciding
or considering whether a person is fit and proper, an authorised officer
(that is, a decision maker) must consider, among other things, a number of
matters including whether a domestic violence order has been made
against the person, the mental and physical fitness of the person, and the
public interest.5
[4] A person is not fit and proper to hold a weapons licence if the person has
been convicted of an offence involving the use or threatened use of
violence6 or a domestic violence order has been made against the
person.7
[5] The term “fit and proper person” is not defined in the WA.
[6] An authorised officer may, by revocation notice, revoke a weapons licence
if, among other things, the authorised officer is satisfied that the applicant
is no longer a fit and proper person to hold a licence.8
The appeal framework
[7] An appeal on a question of law is as of right.9 An appeal on a question of
fact or mixed law and fact may only be made with the leave of the Appeal
Tribunal.10
[8] The relevant principles to be applied in determining whether to grant leave
to appeal include: Is there a reasonably arguable case of error in the
primary decision;11 Is there a reasonable prospect that the applicant will
obtain substantive relief;12 Is leave necessary to correct a substantial
injustice to the applicant caused by some error;13 Is there a question of
general importance upon which further argument, and a decision of the
appellate court or tribunal, would be to the public advantage.14
2 WA s 3(1)(a).
3 Ibid s 3(1)(b).
4 Ibid s 10(2)(e).
5 Ibid s 10B(1).
6 Ibid s 10B(2)(a)(ii).
7 Ibid s 10B(2)(b).
8 Ibid s 29(1)(d).
9 Queensland Civil and Administrative Act 2009 (Qld) (“QCAT Act”), s 142(1).
10 Ibid, s 142(3)(b).
11 QUYD Pty Ltd v Marvass Pty Ltd [2009] 1 Qd R 41.
12 Cachia v Grech [2009] NSWCA 232 at [13].
13 Slater v Wilkes [2012] QCATA 12 at [6], citing QUYD Pty Ltd v Marvass Pty Ltd [2009]
1 Qd R 41; Drew v Bundaberg Regional Council [2011] QCA 359 at [19].
14 Glenwood Properties Pty Ltd v Delmoss Pty Ltd [1986] 2 Qd R 388 at 389; McIver Bulk
Liquid Haulage Pty Ltd v Fruehauf Australia Pty Ltd [1988] 2 Qd R 577 at 578, 580.
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[9] If an appeal is against a decision on a question of fact only or a question
of mixed law and fact the appeal must be decided by way of rehearing
with or without the hearing of additional evidence as decided by the
Appeal Tribunal.15 In deciding the appeal, the Appeal Tribunal may
confirm or amend the decision or set aside the decision and substitute its
own decision.16
[10] An appeal on a question of law is not a rehearing. Unless the
determination of the question of law is capable of determining the matter
as a whole in the applicant’s favour, the proceeding must be sent back to
the Tribunal or the relevant decision maker for reconsideration.17
Findings by the learned member
[11] The learned member below made a number of findings relevant to the
present appeal:
a) CAT failed to hold some of his weapons in secure storage;18
b) CAT’s conduct in failing to hold weapons in secure storage gave rise
to proper grounds for revocation of his weapons licence;19
c) A person who does not abide by the conditions of a weapons licence
is not a fit and proper person to hold a licence as they have breached
the trust imposed upon them to abide by the conditions of their
licence;20
d) The fact that CAT, in the context of an application for a temporary
protection order, provided an undertaking not to possess or acquire
any weapon or weapons licence was relevant to whether CAT was a
fit and proper person to hold a weapons licence;21
e) The undertaking provided by CAT was cast in the nature of a
domestic violence order;22
f) It would not be appropriate for a person who provided an undertaking
such as that given by CAT to continue to possess a weapons
licence;23
g) In providing the undertaking, the Tribunal was prevented from looking
behind the undertaking to understand whether CAT had engaged in
any acts of domestic violence;24
15 QCAT Act, s 147(1) and (2).
16 Ibid s 147(3).
17 Ericson v Queensland Building and Construction Commission [2014] QCA 297 at [3],
[10], [13] and [16].
18 CAT v Queensland Police Service, Weapons Licensing Branch [2015] QCAT 264 [7]
(“Reasons”).
19 Ibid.
20 Ibid [9].
21 Ibid [15].
22 Ibid [20].
23 Ibid.
24 Ibid [21].
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h) CAT consented to the revocation of his weapons licence in the event
of a finding that he was a fit and proper person to hold a licence;25
i) The presence of one unlicensed weapon in CAT’s premises could
properly give rise to grounds for the revocation of his licence;26
j) The passage of time between the occurrence of the weapons
offences and the hearing of the review application was insufficient to
satisfy the Tribunal that CAT had sufficiently matured27 and
possessed the traits necessary for a person to be considered of good
character in relation to weapons licensing;28
k) The relevant test for a “fit and proper person” to hold a weapons
licence requires the Tribunal to consider whether a person
understands the nature of his obligations as a licensee under the
WA;29
l) The behaviour of CAT in assisting unlicensed persons to use his
weapons whilst on camping trips was at best naïve and at worst
reckless; that the weapons licensing regime ensures that only
licensed persons are able to use registered weapons for specific
purposes; and that CAT’s behaviour suggested he did not have the
mature understanding of his responsibilities under the WA necessary
for a finding that he was a fit and proper person to hold a licence.30
Consideration and discussion
[12] We will consider each of the grounds of appeal, referring to the
submissions by the parties and the relevant legislative and legal
framework. CAT has withdrawn grounds 7 and 10 of the grounds of
appeal.
[13] The appeal by CAT raises questions of law, questions of fact and
questions of mixed law and fact.
[14] The distinction between these different grounds of appeal can be subtle. A
useful summary of those differences can be found in Canada (Director of
Investigation and Research) v Southam Inc:31
Briefly stated, questions of law are questions about what the correct legal
test is; questions of fact are questions about what actually took place
between the parties; and questions of mixed law and fact are questions
about whether the facts satisfy the legal tests.
[15] If we are satisfied there is an error of law, unless the determination of the
question of law is capable of disposing of the matter as a whole in the
25 Reasons [23].
26 Ibid [28].
27 Ibid [29].
28 Ibid [35].
29 Ibid [34].
30 Ibid [36] – [38].
31 [1997] 1 SCR 748, [35].
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applicant’s favour, the proceeding must be sent back to the Tribunal for
reconsideration.32
Grounds 1, 2, 4 and 12
[16] These grounds may be conveniently grouped together. CAT says that the
learned Member failed to apply the correct test as established in Stower v
Smart33 in determining whether he is a fit and proper person to hold a
weapons licence. CAT says that the learned Member also failed to give
consideration to the decision of the Tribunal in Magarry v Queensland
Police Service Weapons Licensing Branch.34
[17] CAT says that the correct approach to determine whether a person is fit
and proper for the purposes of s 29 of the WA, and in accordance with
Stower and Magarry, is:
a) A consideration is required of the object of the WA found in s 3(2), “to
prevent the misuse of weapons”;
b) the proper exercise of discretion requires an evaluation of the
evidence of the applicant’s character;
c) The proper exercise of discretion would then lead to a consideration
of the following questions:-
i) Whether, in the circumstances, there is any real prospect of the
applicant misusing weapons so that his licence should be
revoked;
ii) Whether the applicant’s right to possess firearms is a real risk to
public and individual safety.
[18] The learned member, says CAT, failed to adopt the correct approach and
in particular failed to address the considerations identified at (c) above.
CAT refers to the reasons at paragraphs [32] to [38] and says that proper
consideration was not given to the evidence as to his character and that,
in particular, at [32] of the reasons the learned Member misapplied the
relevant test. CAT specifically refers to eleven (11) character references
which he says were not taken into consideration.
[19] CAT says that the learned Member failed to give appropriate consideration
to the circumstances which contributed to his offending being the death of
his close friend, RI.
[20] CAT says that if the learned Member had adopted the (correct) approach
in Stower and Magarry, she would have come to a different conclusion as
to CAT’s suitability to hold a weapons licence.
[21] The QPS says that the approach in Magarry is expressed thus:
32 Ericson v Queensland Building and Construction Commission [2014] QCA 297 at [3],
[10], [13] and [16].
33 [2007] QDC 004.
34 [2012] QCAT 378.
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The principle underlying the Weapons Act 1990 is that weapons possession
and use are subordinate to the need to ensure public individual safety and
the object of the Act is to prevent the misuse of weapons.35
[22] There is nothing to suggest, says the QPS, that the Tribunal’s discretion
was exercised in such a way that it was unjust to CAT. The law requires
that the discretion be exercised in a way that promotes the object and
principles of the WA.36
[23] The QPS says that Stower and Magarry were the subject of address in the
hearing below by both CAT37 and the QPS.38
[24] The QPS submits that the Tribunal correctly applied the WA and that s
10B sets out clearly the mandatory considerations in determining whether
a person is fit and proper. An assessment of whether a person is fit and
proper is different from, but related to, an assessment of whether a person
is of good character. These considerations are determined individually, on
their merits, on a case by case basis.
[25] The QPS says that the facts in Stower and Magarry must be distinguished
from CAT’s circumstances and that proper regard to CAT’s character was
given appropriate weight by the learned member.39 The QPS says that the
test applied by the learned Member was whether CAT was a fit and proper
person to hold a weapons licence not whether he was of good character.40
The QPS says that the learned Member’s finding as to whether CAT was
fit and proper was clear.
[26] The relevant principles in Stower were succinctly stated in Magarry:41
a) It is of extreme importance to bear in mind the object of the Act which
is stated in s 3(2) to be “to prevent the misuse of weapons”.
b) The proper exercise of discretion would require the decision maker to
evaluate the evidence of the character of the applicant.
c) The proper exercise of discretion would then lead to the questions “in
these circumstances is there any real prospect of the applicant
misusing his weapons so that his licence should be suspended? Is
his right to possess firearms a real risk to public and individual
safety?”
[27] The importance of the exercise of the relevant discretion is expressed in
Stower thus:
…The discretion given by s 28 to the learned Magistrate can hardly be
wholly dependent on satisfaction that Stower had been charged with an
offence falling under s 28(1)(a)(i)(B). A decision based only on that would
35 [2012] QCAT 378, 7 [25].
36 Ibid.
37 Transcript of 19 February 2015, 1-123; 1-124.
38 T1-128.
39 Reasons [32]-[34].
40 T1-58 L-11-19.
41 [2013] QCATA 147.
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not be a discretionary decision but a simple finding of fact. Moreover a
finding of fact which is almost certainly uncontested and uncontestable.42
[28] In Stower, the applicant became involved in a fracas with another member
of an historical society. Mr Stower pushed and shoved the other member
(the assault in respect of which Mr Stower was charged) following which
Mr Stower immediately apologised. Skoein DCJ found that the discretion
of the Magistrate miscarried in finding that Mr Stower was not a fit and
proper person to hold a weapons licence. Skoein DCJ found that the
Magistrate had failed to consider the circumstances of Mr Stower’s
offending and the unchallenged evidence of Mr Stower’s good character
and of his responsible behaviour with firearms and compliance with the
provisions of the WA.
[29] In Magarry the applicant illegally imported weapons for the purposes of
constructing plaques. In finding that Mr Magarry was a fit and proper
person, the Tribunal referred to a range of relevant factors and evidence,
including the sentencing remarks relating to Mr Magarry’s relevant
offending, medical evidence and character references provided on Mr
Magarry’s behalf.43 In finding that “special circumstances” pertained, the
Tribunal did not consider that:
…a finding that Mr Magarry is fit and proper to hold a license in
circumstances where he has engaged in wrongful behaviour in any way
sets a precedent for lowering the standard of behaviour that the public
should expect of license holders. This is a case of special circumstances
and should not be regarded as a precedent.44
[30] Smith v Commissioner of Police NSW and Ors45 considered the meaning
of “fit and proper” and the concept of “public interest”. It was held that the
assessment of whether a person is fit and proper to be the holder of a
licence is different from the assessment of whether the person is of good
character.
[31] The question whether a person is a fit and proper person is one of value
judgment.46 A person’s fitness is to be gauged in the light of the nature
and purpose of the activities that person will undertake.47 In Smith it was
held that the concept of public interest is an inherently broad one giving
the Commissioner of Police the ability to have regard to a wide range of
factors in choosing whether to exercise the discretion adversely to the
applicant. An applicant’s personal interest in retaining a licence cannot
outweigh the public interest in having full confidence in the regulation of
the WA.48
42 [2007] QDC 004, 3 [12].
43 [2012] QCAT 378, 9-10 [41] to [44].
44 Ibid 12 [56].
45 [2014] NSWCATAD 184.
46 Australian Broadcasting Tribunal v Bond (1990) 94 ALR 11 at 62.
47 Hughes and Vale Pty Ltd v NSW (No 2) (Transport Case) (1955) 93 CLR 127.
48 Op cit 46.
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[32] In Australian Broadcasting Tribunal v Bond49 Mason CJ held that while the
seriousness or otherwise of conduct is a matter for consideration, so is the
weight, if any, to be given to matters favouring the person whose fitness
and propriety are under consideration. The character and reputation of an
applicant are also relevant considerations.50
[33] The learned Member found:
When someone obtains a licence, and then does not abide by the
conditions attached to that licence, the authorised officer in charge of
weapons licencing can, and should, revoke that licence. A person who does
not abide by the conditions of a weapons licence is not, in the context of the
Act, ‘a fit and proper person’ to hold a licence. They have breached the
trust imposed upon them to abide by the conditions of their licence.51
[34] The learned Member erred in finding as she did. The finding was
predicated on there having occurred a deeming event giving rise to an
automatic revocation. It is only where a person is convicted of an offence
involving the use, carriage or possession of a weapon that they are
deemed not to be fit and proper in accordance with s 10B(2)(a)(iii) of the
WA. In any other circumstance, a decision to revoke requires the exercise
of a discretion.
[35] The learned member found:52
[32] It is the Tribunal’s view that CAT has misunderstood the fit and proper
person test that is applicable to weapons licensing. There has been
significant attention given in his affidavit material, and at hearing, of CAT’s
general character, Christian values, self-reported desire to prevent his
former wife from enduring any discomfort in Court, service to the
community and other sundry good deeds.
[33] CAT may well be these things, but that is not the test applicable here.
The test is whether CAT is fit and proper to hold a weapon’s licence.
Conceivably, one can be a regular church-attending volunteer who cares
for their family and community, and still not be a fit and proper for these
purposes.
[34] Resolution of the question as to whether CAT is fit and proper requires
that the Tribunal consider whether he understands the nature of his
obligations as a licensee under the Act.
[36] The statement by the learned Member at reasons [33] is not, with respect,
an articulation of the relevant test. It is a re-statement of the statutory
requirement found at s 10(2)(e) of the WA. Similarly, the learned
Member’s finding at reasons [34] conflates two quite separate
considerations required by the WA. Firstly, an applicant must, among
other things, have an adequate knowledge of safety practices for the use,
storage and maintenance of the weapon or category of weapon53 and
49 (1990) 94 ALR 11.
50 (1990) 94 ALR 11 at 65, per Gaudron and Toohey JJ.
51 Reasons [9].
52 Ibid [32]-[34].
53 WA, s 10(2)(b).
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access to secure storage facilities for the weapon.54 These are the
obligations as a licensee to which the learned Member appears to have
been referring. Secondly, an applicant must be a fit and proper person.55
Satisfaction of the first consideration may assist in informing a decision
about the second consideration, but it will not be conclusive. Whether a
person is fit and proper requires a much wider enquiry as to, among other
things, the character of the applicant, the insight the applicant displays into
the behaviour giving rise to the revocation or suspension and the conduct
of the applicant subsequent to the events giving rise to the consideration
of the applicant’s entitlement to hold a licence.
[37] It is clear from the learned Member’s reasons that she did not consider
that evidence of CAT’s character was a relevant consideration in
determining whether he was a fit and proper person to hold a weapons
licence.
[38] The circumstances in which CAT obtained weapons from his friend, RI,
was the subject of evidence at the hearing.56 In the proceedings below,
CAT admitted that he had obtained several guns from an unnamed source
only a week before the police raid on his house.57
[39] The reasons refer to the death of RI and deal briefly with the
circumstances in which CAT came into possession of RI’s weapons.58
[40] The circumstances surrounding how CAT came into possession of
unregistered and unlawful weapons was a relevant consideration in the
exercise of the discretion as to whether CAT is a fit and proper person to
hold a weapons licence. Other than the brief reference to RI’s decision to
gift his unregistered weapons collection to CAT, the learned Member’s
reasons make no reference to the circumstances in which CAT came to be
in possession of the collection or of his remorse at his actions in not
having the weapons registered. The absence of any such reference leads
us to conclude that the learned Member did not take these circumstances
into consideration and to this extent, there was a failure to properly
consider all of the relevant circumstances in the exercise of the discretion
by the learned Member.
[41] The appropriate exercise of the discretion by the learned Member required
her to undertake an evaluation of the evidence as to CAT’s character and
the circumstances in which he came to be in possession of unregistered
weapons. This the learned member failed to do, only taking into
consideration the seriousness of CAT’s conduct and not considering the
weight, if any, to be given to evidence that might be said to favour CAT.
[42] The proper exercise of the discretion in s 10B(1) of the WA requires
consideration of the matters identified in Stower and Magarry having
54 Ibid, s 10(2)(c).
55 Ibid, s 10(2)(e).
56 T1-29,1-30,1-31, 1-41, 1-42, 1-43, 1-58, 1-60, 1-61,1-64, 1-69, 1-70, 1-71. 1-91.
57 T1-36.
58 Reasons [30].
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regard to the objects of the WA. The learned Member was required to
consider:
a) the conduct of CAT giving rise to the decision to remove his licence;
and
b) the evidence relevant to CAT’s character including his general
character, his insight into the behaviour giving rise to the licence
removal, his understanding of the WA and his obligations under the
Act.
The learned Member was required to exercise her discretion and make a
finding as to whether CAT was a fit and proper person in the context of the
relevant considerations, the findings on the evidence and in accordance
with the object of the Act.
[43] It is an error of law to fail to identify the relevant legal test or apply the
correct test.59 It is an error of law to fail to consider a relevant factor in
arriving at a decision.60 Where there is an exercise of a discretion, it is an
error of law if the decision maker fails to take into account some material
consideration.61
[44] In failing to consider the evidence as to CAT’s character, the learned
Member erred in failing to take into consideration all of the matters
necessary for the proper exercise of the discretion in deciding whether
CAT was a fit and proper person to hold a weapons licence.
Ground 3
[45] CAT says that the learned Member failed to give consideration to the fact
that the Magistrate in the criminal proceedings did not make an order to
revoke CAT’s licence as he could have done under s 155 of the WA.62
[46] During the hearing below, CAT submitted it was relevant that the
Magistrate could have revoked CAT’s weapons licence and that the
Magistrate did not do so instead ordering that the unregistered firearms
could be returned to CAT on the basis that he execute permits to acquire.
[47] The QPS says that the fact that a declaration to revoke CAT’s licence was
not made by the Magistrate is not a relevant consideration in determining
whether CAT is a fit and proper person to hold a weapons licence. The
QPS says that the Magistrate was not compelled to exercise the discretion
and that the power of the respondent under s 29 of the WA is not excluded
in circumstances where a Magistrate does not exercise the power under s
155.
[48] Section 155 of the WA provides that where a person is convicted of an
offence the court may declare any licence, permit to acquire or approval
59 Federal Commission of Taxation v Trail Brothers Steel & Plastics Pty Ltd (2010) 186
FCR 410.
60 Kuswardana v Minister for Immigration & Ethnic Affairs (1981) 35 ALR 186.
61 Perry v Comcare [2006] FCA 33 at [39] per Greenwood J.
62 T1-125.
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held by the person convicted to be revoked.63 The transcript of the hearing
in the Magistrates Court was not before the Tribunal below. There was
nothing before the Tribunal below indicating or explaining why the
Magistrate made no order under s 155 or indeed whether the possibility of
such an order was raised.
[49] In the circumstances, the absence of an order by the Magistrate pursuant
to s 155(1) of the WA was not a relevant consideration in determining
whether CAT is a fit and proper person.
[50] There is no demonstrated error by the learned Member. This ground of
appeal is not made out.
Grounds 5, 6, and 8
[51] Relevant to these grounds of appeal are domestic violence proceedings
initiated by CE following the police raid on 18 November 2013 which led to
CAT being charged with weapons offences (“the DV proceedings”). The
DV proceedings did not progress to a hearing and an undertaking was
entered into by CAT on 6 May 2014.
[52] CAT refers to the heading preceding paragraphs [10] to [22] of the
reasons, “CAT is subject to a Domestic Violence Order” and says that
while he was subject to a Temporary Protection Order from 18 November
2013 to 4 May 2014, at no stage was CAT subject to a Domestic Violence
order. CAT’s former wife made an application for a domestic violence
order which was withdrawn on the basis that CAT enter into a private
undertaking.
[53] CAT says that whilst it is accepted that headings do not ordinarily form
substantive findings of a decision, the reference is erroneous and
indicates a failure by the learned Member to properly consider the matter.
[54] The QPS says that the Tribunal accepted that there was no finding of a
domestic violence order having been made against CAT and that while the
heading in the reasons may have indicated a finding that CAT was subject
to a domestic violence order, no such finding was made.
[55] The learned Member did not make a finding that CAT was the subject of a
domestic violence order. Whilst the wording used by the learned Member
was unfortunate we do not accept that the heading of itself indicates any
failure by the learned Member to properly consider the facts.
[56] This ground of appeal is not made out.
[57] CAT says that the learned Member incorrectly found that he failed to
comply with s 24 of the WA by not advising police of his entry into the
63 WA, s 155(1)(a).
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undertaking.64 CAT says that his entering into the undertaking was not one
of the events referred to in s 24(2) of the WA.
[58] The QPS says that once CAT entered into the undertaking not to acquire
or possess a weapon or weapon’s licence, a change in the reason or need
for possessing or using a weapon occurred as contemplated by s
24(2)(b)(i) of the WA. This, says the QPS, enlivened CAT’s obligation to
notify the QPS of the change within 14 days.
[59] Section 24 of the WA provides that it is a condition of a licence that a
licensee must notify the officer in charge within fourteen (14) days of the
happening of one of a number of specified events set out in s 24(2)
including a change in the licensee’s reason or need for possessing or
using a weapon.65
[60] The learned Member found that CAT was required to disclose the fact of
the entry into the undertaking and that CAT had made such disclosure
though not within the period required.66
[61] While it is arguable whether or not the fact of the undertaking was an
event for the purposes of s 24(2) of the WA, the learned Member was
satisfied that CAT had notified the QPS of the fact of the undertaking. It is
tolerably clear from the reasons that any delay by CAT in giving notice
was not a determinative factor in the learned Member finding that CAT
was not a fit and proper person.
[62] This ground of appeal is not made out.
[63] CAT says that the learned Member gave inappropriate weight to the legal
effect of the undertaking and incorrectly considered that the terms of the
undertaking affected his rights under the WA.
[64] The learned Member described the undertaking as being cast in the
nature of a domestic violence order.67 CAT says that the undertaking and
its effect is not relevant to the assessment of whether CAT is a fit and
proper person.
[65] In particular, says CAT, the learned member erred in finding that:
[t]he undertaking expires on 31 December 2015. It is beyond dispute that
CAT is not a fit and proper person to possess a weapon’s licence at least
until expiry of this period, and quite possibly longer.68
[66] CAT says that the undertaking was a private agreement between he and
his wife and is not prima facie evidence that he is not a fit and proper
person to hold a weapons licence.
64 Reasons [13]-[14].
65 WA, s 24(2)(b)(i).
66 Reasons [13]-[14].
67 Ibid [22].
68 Ibid.
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[67] The QPS says that holding a weapons licence is a privilege, is not
something that the licensee can privately bargain away to suit his personal
circumstances and that such an arrangement is contrary to the objects of
the WA.
[68] A domestic violence order is defined in the WA as a domestic violence
order under the Domestic and Family Violence Protection Act 2012
(Qld).69 It is not controversial between the parties that no such order was
made. The learned Member quite correctly found that the existence of the
undertaking was a factor to be considered in the review proceeding.70
However, the learned Member went further, finding that by entering into
the undertaking, CAT was not an appropriate person to hold a weapons
licence. In so doing, the learned Member impermissibly treated the
undertaking as a disqualifying event by virtue of which CAT was not a fit
and proper person to hold a licence. As we have observed the only events
by reason of which a person is not fit and proper are to be found at s
10B(2), (2A), (3) and (4) of the WA. The undertaking entered into by CAT
could not be characterised as falling within any of these provisions.
[69] Accordingly we find that the learned Member erred in finding that CAT was
not a fit and proper person as a consequence of his entering into the
undertaking.
Ground 9
[70] CAT says that the learned Member erred in finding that he was naïve
and/or reckless in acting as a supervisor for unlicensed persons to use
firearms.
[71] The learned Member found:
[36] … During the course of the hearing, CAT admitted that he had
frequently been on camping trips with friends, at which junctures he would
assist other unlicensed persons in the shooting of weapons, for recreational
purposes. In other words, persons who wished to shoot various weapons,
but who did not possess the requisite licences, would do so with CAT
watching vigil over them. CAT explained that he thought this was
permissible.
[37] At best this is naïve, and at worst reckless. It is, or should be, readily
apparent that a weapons licensing regime exist in Queensland to ensure
that only licensed persons are able to use registered weapons, for the
specific purpose that they are licensed for. Were it otherwise, it would be
virtually impossible for the police to enforce the regime.
[72] CAT acknowledged at the appeal hearing that he did not have a legal right
to supervise the use of his weapons by unlicensed persons however he
submitted that he had a genuine belief that he did have that right. CAT
says that the learned Member erred in finding that CAT was naïve and/or
reckless in acting as a supervisor for unlicensed persons to use firearms.
69 WA, Schedule 2.
70 Reasons [15].
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[73] The QPS says that:
a) CAT admitted at the hearing that his weapons and his friend’s
weapons, registered and unregistered, were taken on camping trips.
While CAT denied using the unregistered firearms, he admitted to
providing firearms to his friends, whether they were licensed or
unlicensed. CAT thought that as long as he stood behind them while
they were shooting, it was lawful. CAT states that these persons
were all adults.71
b) The WA provides for specific circumstances wherein an unlicensed
person may access a firearm. The scenario permitted is for
unlicensed persons (adults) being able to access firearms in a
shooting range under the supervision of a range officer under s 53 of
the WA.
c) The Tribunal said that there is nothing in the WA which allows for a
regime wherein an unlicensed person may have a “look, see and a
try” in the manner that CAT has been doing at those
camping/shooting trips.72
[74] CAT gave evidence at the hearing below that his brother had been warned
by two police officers while he was supervising unlicensed persons and
the warning was later removed after another police officer who was a
friend’s father made representations to the weapons licensing branch.73
[75] Part 4 of the WA deals with the possession and use of weapons. A
weapons licence authorises a licensee to possess and use a weapon or
category of weapon.74 A person must not unlawfully possess a weapon.75
‘Unlawful’ is defined.76 ‘Possession’ is defined.77 A licensee must not
possess an unregistered firearm.78 A minor who is at least 11 years of age
may have physical possession and use of a specified weapon if
supervised by a licensee.79 An unlicensed person may possess and use a
weapon at an approved range subject to a number of requirements
including the supervision of the person by a range officer.80
[76] Other than as outlined above, the WA contains no provision entitling an
unlicensed person to have physical possession and use of a weapon
whilst being supervised by a licensed person.
[77] We express no concluded view about what CAT says is a lacuna in the
WA other than to observe that the absence of a provision as we have
identified appears to indicate an intention by the parliament to significantly
71 T1-69 – 1-73.
72 T1-73 – 1-74.
73 Ibid.
74 WA, s 49A(1).
75 Ibid s 50(1).
76 Ibid Schedule 2.
77 Ibid.
78 Ibid s 50A(1).
79 Ibid s 52(1) and (2).
80 Ibid s 53.
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restrict the physical possession and use of weapons by unlicensed
persons to those circumstances identified in Part 4 of the WA. This view is
reinforced when one has consideration of the object and principles of the
WA.
[78] CAT gave evidence about how and why he had formed the genuinely held
belief that he had not breached the WA by permitting unlicensed persons
to use his weapons. This was a factor which should have been taken into
account by the learned Member when determining how to characterise
CAT’s actions in regard to the use of weapons by unlicensed persons. The
learned Member’s reasons do not reveal whether she took into
consideration CAT’s explanation and if she did, how that consideration
was relevant to the final decision.
[79] If the learned Member did not take into consideration the explanation
offered by CAT as to his genuinely held belief that he was permitted to
supervise unlicensed persons using his weapons, this was an error by the
learned Member. If the explanation was taken into consideration, the
reasons do not adequately reveal this. Either way, there is an error of law.
Ground 11
[80] CAT says that the learned Member erred in finding that the events relating
to the revocation were so recent in time that CAT could not be considered
a person of good character in relation to weapons licensing.
[81] CAT refers to the following passage from the reasons:
[35] The Tribunal has concluded that although CAT may well have learned
from this episode, the events are so recent in time, that it is not possible to
say that he presently possesses the traits necessary for somebody to be
considered of good character in relation to weapons licensing. CAT himself
admits that he possessed, knowing that he should not have, numerous
unregistered weapons.
[82] CAT says that there had been an 18 month passage of time between his
being dealt with for the offences under the WA and the Tribunal’s final
decision. CAT says that it is unclear on what basis the learned member
found that the passage of time was insufficient for him to have matured
significantly and that the finding by the learned Member is vague and
incapable of being addressed properly by CAT.
[83] The QPS says that the Tribunal did not find that CAT was a bad person or
a person of general bad character and that what the learned member
found was that CAT did not have the mature understanding of the
responsibilities imposed on him by the WA.81
[84] The learned Member found:
[27] CAT asserts that he has learned from the experience he had following
the execution of the search warrant…
81 Reasons [38].
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…
[29] Self-evidently, CAT remains youthful – there has not been a sufficient
passage of time between the weapons offences. Let alone circumstances
leading to the domestic violence undertaking, such that any reasonable
Tribunal could consider that CAT had matured significantly
[85] We accept that the length of time since the relevant offending is a factor
which should be taken into consideration in determining whether CAT is a
fit and proper person to hold a weapons licence. A relatively short
passage of time since the commission of an offence may be a relevant
factor weighing for or against an applicant. The duration of that passage of
time is not however determinative without more. Evidence of the steps
taken by an applicant to improve their understanding of the WA and of
their obligations under the Act and of their general behaviour since the
offending is also relevant as is the insight an applicant has into their
behaviour and their obligations under the WA. A person who
demonstrates, through insight and the passage of time sufficient to
demonstrate the practical application of that insight, that they have a
mature understanding of their conduct and the effect of that conduct, is
more likely to comply with their obligations under the WA and less likely to
fail to comply with those obligations.
[86] In our view the learned Member erred in law in failing to give adequate
reasons as to why it was that the recency of events forced the conclusion
that CAT did not possess the necessary traits to be considered a person
of good character in relation to weapons licensing.
Conclusion
[87] CAT has been successful on a number of the grounds of appeal. The
errors found are errors of law. We order that the decision of the Tribunal
dated 12 June 2015 be set aside and that the matter be remitted to the
Tribunal for reconsideration according to law and in accordance with these
reasons.
[88] The matter may be reheard on the papers subject to the parties being
given the opportunity to make any further submissions.
[89] The material before the Tribunal below and in this appeal contains
allegations by CAT’s spouse of domestic violence which is of a highly
sensitive nature. It would be contrary to the public interest for the identity
of CAT’s spouse to be publicly disclosed, or any other information which
may identify her. It would also be contrary to the public interest for these
reasons to be published other than in de-identified format.
[90] We note that a non-publication order was not made in the proceeding
below. Accordingly, we order that publication is prohibited of evidence
given before the Tribunal in this proceeding and in GAR205-14 which may
identify the Applicant’s spouse and that these reasons, and any reasons in
GAR205-14, including any further reasons, may be published only in a de-
identified format.
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Official source: https://www.sclqld.org.au/caselaw/QCATA/2017/043