FL v Chief Executive Officer, Public Safety Business Agency [2016] QCAT 147
CITATION: FL v Chief Executive Officer, Public Safety
Business Agency [2016] QCAT 147
PARTIES: FL
(Applicant)
v
Chief Executive Officer, Public Safety Business
Agency
(Respondent)
APPLICATION NUMBER: CML175-15
MATTER TYPE: Childrens matters
HEARING DATES: 7 October 2015 and 1 December 2015
HEARD AT: Brisbane
DECISION OF: Member Howard
DELIVERED ON: 8 January 2016
DELIVERED AT: Brisbane
ORDERS MADE: 1. The decision of the Chief Executive
Officer, Public Safety Business Agency to
issue a negative notice is confirmed.
2. The Tribunal prohibits the publication of
any information that may identify the
applicant, her former partner, the
applicant’s children and her community.
CATCHWORDS: GENERAL ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW - BLUE
CARD – EXCEPTIONAL CASE - where no
serious or disqualifying criminal offences –
where other criminal convictions - where alcohol
a factor in many past convictions - where anger
management issues - where reduction in
number of charges following decreased alcohol
intake - where recent substantiated Child Safety
notification about ability to protect child from
harm - where history of domestic violence-
where future relationship status uncertain -
where applicant has undergone counselling -
where support from Child Safety - where family
and community support - where adult has
recently commenced consuming alcohol again -
whether exceptional case
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Queensland Civil and Administrative Tribunal
Act 2009 (Qld), s 19, s 20, s 66
Working with Children (Risk Management and
Screening) Act 2000 (Qld), ch 8, s 5, s 6, s 7,
s 221, s 226, s 354, s 360, sch 7
Ax v Commissioner for Children and Young
People and Child Guardian (No 2) [2012]
QCATA 248
Commissioner for Children and Young People
and Child Guardian v FGC [2011] QCATA 291
Commissioner for Children and Young People
and Child Guardian v Maher & Anor [2004] QCA
492
Grindrod v Chief Executive Officer, Department
of Community Development [2008] WASAT 289
In the marriage of Sandrk (1991) 104 FLR 394
Kent v Wilson [2000] VSC 98
Re: Imperial Chemical Industries Ltd’s patent
extension petitions [1983] VR 1
Schwerin v Equal Opportunity Board (1994) VR
279
Volkers v Commission for Children and Young
People and Child Guardian [2010] QCAT 243
APPEARANCES:
APPLICANT: Ms Kerrin Lawn, Solicitor, Qld Indigenous
Family Violence Service, appeared for FL on 7
October 2015 and Mr Bruce Shaw, Solicitor,
Qld Indigenous Family Violence Service,
appeared for FL on 1 December 2015.
RESPONDENT: Ms Natalie Taylor, in-house lawyer, appeared
for Chief Executive Officer, Public Safety
Business Agency.
REASONS FOR DECISION
[1] FL previously held a positive notice and a blue card, which was issued to
her in February 2007. However in October 2008, she was issued with a
negative notice. The negative notice was later cancelled in July 2013. Then
in September 2014, FL made application for a positive notice in order to
obtain a blue card.
[2] On 1 June 2015, the Chief Executive, Public Safety Business Agency
(‘PSBA’) issued a negative notice to her. This means that she cannot hold
a blue card. FL then filed an application for review of PSBA’s decision in
the Tribunal.
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[3] The review hearing was listed for 7 October 2015. During the course of FL’s
evidence, she stated that she had recently had contact with Child Safety.
On the oral application of the PSBA, I adjourned the hearing to allow the
Child Safety records to be obtained. The hearing continued on 1 December
2015.
The Review Process
[4] The Working with Children (Risk Screening and Management) Act 2000
(Qld) (‘Working with Children Act’) gives the Queensland Civil and
Administrative Tribunal (‘QCAT’) jurisdiction to conduct a review of the
Commissioner’s decision.1 The Tribunal must decide the review in
accordance with the Working with Children Act and the Queensland Civil
and Administrative Tribunal Act 2009 (Qld) (‘QCAT Act’).2 For the review,
the Tribunal has all the functions of the decision maker for the reviewable
decision.3 The purpose of the review is produce the correct and preferable
decision following a fresh hearing on the merits.4 In effect, the Tribunal
stands in the shoes of the decision maker and makes the decision afresh.
[5] The Working with Children Act sets out provisions about screening for
employment and business. The paramount consideration for making child-
related employment screening decisions under the Working with Children
Act is the protection of children from harm and the promotion of their
wellbeing.5 In a review proceeding, the welfare and best interests of
children are paramount.6
[6] Chapter 8 of the Working with Children Act sets out the procedure for
deciding whether to issue a positive or negative notice. Section 221(1) sets
out that in certain circumstances (which are relevant here), the Chief
Executive must issue a positive notice.7 In particular, a positive notice must
be issued in circumstances that:
The Chief Executive is either not aware of any police information about
the person; or
The Chief Executive is not aware of a conviction of the person for any
offence but there is investigative or disciplinary information about
them, or the person has been charged with a disqualifying offence8
that has been dealt with other than by a conviction; or
The Chief Executive is aware of a conviction of the person for an
offence other than a serious offence.
1 Working with Children Act, s 354.
2 QCAT Act, s 19(a).
3 Ibid, s 19(c).
4 Ibid, s 20.
5 Working with Children Act, s 5, s 6.
6 Ibid, s 360.
7 Ibid, s 221(1).
8 Section 168 defines disqualifying offence.
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[7] However, if the Chief Executive is satisfied that it is an ‘exceptional case’ in
which it would not be in the best interests of children for the Chief Executive
to issue a positive notice, then the Chief Executive must issue a negative
notice to the person: s 221(2). That is, the presumption set out in s 221(1)
is rebutted by an exceptional case. The Working with Children Act does not
define the term exceptional case. However, it is settled law that determining
whether a case is an exceptional case is a matter of discretion, having
regard to the merits of the individual case and the factors to be taken into
account.9
[8] What constitutes an exceptional case is a matter of fact and degree.10
Hardship or prejudice suffered by an applicant is irrelevant.11 What amounts
to an exceptional case must ‘take it out and beyond the ordinary
circumstances reasonably expected to occur’.12 It must be ‘of the nature of
or forming an exception; out of the ordinary course, unusual, special’.13
[9] The passage of time is not determinative of whether or not a case is an
exceptional case.14 Allegations and convictions may relate to events a
number of years ago, but the passage of time alone does not detract from
their seriousness.15 The decision-maker also considers relevant risk and
protective factors and balances those factors.16
[10] In determining whether a case is an exceptional case, where a person has
been convicted or charged with an offence, the Tribunal, standing in the
Commissioner’s shoes, must have regard to the factors set out in s 226 of
the Working with Children Act. Conviction in the Act, is defined to include
any findings of guilt by a court.17 The factors are relevantly as follows:
(a) in relation to the commission, or alleged commission, of an offence
by the person—
(i) whether it is a conviction or a charge; and
(ii) whether the offence is a serious offence and, if it is, whether it
is a disqualifying offence; and
9 Commissioner for Children and Young People and Child Guardian v Maher & Anor
[2004] QCA 492 at [34] applied in Commissioner for Children and Young People and
Child Guardian v FGC [2011] QCATA 291.
10 Re: Imperial Chemical Industries Ltd’s patent extension petitions [1983] VR 1; Kent v
Wilson [2000] VSC 98; and Commissioner for Children and Young People and Child
Guardian v Maher & Anor [2004] QCA 492.
11 Ax v Commissioner for Children and Young People and Child Guardian (No 2) [2012]
QCATA 248.
12 In the marriage of Sandrk (1991) 104 FLR 394, at [399-400].
13 Schwerin v Equal Opportunity Board (1994) VR 279, at [287–288].
14 Grindrod v Chief Executive Officer, Department of Community Development [2008]
WASAT 289.
15 Volkers v Commission for Children and Young People and Child Guardian [2010] QCAT
243.
16 Commissioner for Children and Young People and Child Guardian v Maher & Anor
[2004] QCA 492.
17 Working with Children Act, sch 7 – ‘Conviction’.
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(iii) when the offence was committed or is alleged to have been
committed; and
(iv) the nature of the offence and its relevance to employment, or
carrying on a business, that involves or may involve children;
and
(v) in the case of a conviction—the penalty imposed by the court
and, if the court decided not to impose an imprisonment order
for the offence or not to make a disqualification order under
section 357, the court’s reasons for its decision;
…….
(e) anything else relating to the commission, or alleged commission, of
the offence that the chief executive reasonably considers to be
relevant to the assessment of the person.
[11] Further, although not relevant here, information from the Director of Public
Prosecutions, Corrective Services and the Mental Health Court must be
considered.18
FL’s Circumstances
General Life History
[12] FL was born in 1967 in a small remote Aboriginal community in
Queensland. She lived there until she was aged three years old. She moved
with her family to Bamaga, and then to Cairns, after her mother married her
stepfather. She returned to the Aboriginal community she was born in as
an adult. She has lived between Cairns and that Aboriginal community
since 1988. She has three children, whom she has mostly raised in the
Aboriginal community. She and her children currently reside in the
Aboriginal community. She says that she likes to stay out of trouble, but that
it is difficult in the small community, because trouble is always present.
[13] Her children are aged 26, 21 and 4 years. FL separated from her partner of
some 18 years, in about 2013. She lives with her son, aged 4. She has
three grandchildren aged 9, 7 and approximately 1. She cared full-time for
her two eldest grandchildren from the time they were 3 and 2 respectively
until sometime in 2014 when they returned to their mother’s care. She
continues to assist with their care.
[14] FL completed high school senior, graduating in 1985. She commenced
study in 1986 at TAFE. Later in 1986, she subsequently commenced study
in early childhood education at James Cook University. She studied for two
and a half years but then as a result of home- sickness moved back to her
family. She holds a number of certificates in sport and recreation, housing,
business governance and theology.
[15] She has worked over the years in many and varied roles including as a
healthcare worker; a council cashier; a community police officer; a truck and
machine operator; a teachers aide; an after-school co-ordinator; a sport and
18 Working with Children Act, s 226(2)(b)(c) and (d).
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recreation officer, a community ranger, a bank and postal manager. She
was also Deputy Mayor of the Aboriginal community, and has been a justice
member, an army reservist, a safe house worker and a member of the
health action team. She explains that in a small Aboriginal community, the
jobs often ‘come and go’ depending on the funding of the groups involved
as employers. She has often worked with children and youth.
[16] FL is a member of her local church. She attends each Sunday with her
family and is supportive of community members.19
Criminal History
[17] FL has a criminal history. None of the offences, of which she was found
guilty, are defined as serious (or disqualifying) offences as defined in the
Working with Children Act. Her history is as follows:
Court Date Offence Result Other Relevant
Information20
MAGISTRATES
COURT
13/02/1992 CARRY FIREARM
WHILST UNDER
THE INFLUENCE
OF LIQUOR OR
DRUG (31/12/91)
CONVICTED
PROBATION
6 MTHS
This offence occurred
after an argument
with a male person
and involved FL
intending to shoot
herself.
MAGISTRATES
COURT
26/03/1992 ASSAULT
OCCASIONING
BODILY HARM
WHILST ARMED
WITH A
DANGEROUS
WEAPON
(18/3/92)
CONVICTED
PROBATION
12 MTHS
The dangerous
weapon concerned
was a knife. The
person injured was
FL’s brother. She
jabbed him behind
the ear from behind,
cutting him, because
she did not like what
he had said to her.
She did not intend to
injure him, but to
scare him. FL was
under the influence of
alcohol, but aware of
what she had done.
MAGISTRATES
COURT
06/01/1994 UNLAW ASSAULT
(ON 02/10/93)
RESIST POLICE
(ON 02/10/93)
THREATENING
LANGUAGE (ON
02/10/93)
RECOGNIZA
NCE $250 &
TO BE OF
GOOD
BEHAVIOUR
FOR 12
MONTHS
PURSUANT
TO SECTION
FL was making threats
to kill and waving two
pieces of wood at a
police officer, as she
was walking along the
road. The police
officer tackled her as
she approached,
knocking the wood
19 Exhibit 1, at page 45.
20 Details extracted and summarised from Exhibit 1, Police Information pages 7-30.
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Court Date Offence Result Other Relevant
Information20
32 OF THE
PENALTIES
AND
SENTENCES
ACT
RECOGNIZA
NCE $100 &
TO BE OF
GOOD
BEHAVIOUR
FOR 12
MONTHS
PURSUANT
TO SECTION
32 OF THE
PENALTIES
AND
SENTENCES
ACT
from her hands. She
struggled violently
while 2 officers then
walked her to the
station, and in the
process a knife fell
out of her shirt onto
the ground. She
continued to threaten
to kill the police
officer.
MAGISTRATES
COURT
07/07/1995 POSSN WEAPON
WHILST NOT
BEING THE
HOLDER OF A
LICENSE AS
SPECIFIED IN
SCHEDULE 2 OF
THE WEAPONS
ACT (4/4/95)
CARRY LOADED
WEAPON IN A
PUBLIC PLACE
(4/4/95)
DISCHARGE
WEAPON IN A
PUBLIC PLACE
(4/4/95)
POSSN WEAPON
WHILST UNDER
THE INFLUENCE
OF LIQUOR OR
DRUG (4/4/95)
DISMISSED
ON ALL
CHARGES:
PURSUANT
TO SECTION
91(A) OF
THE
PENALTIES &
SENTENCES
ACT NO
CONVICTION
RECORDED
PROBATION
12 MTHS
Whilst intoxicated, FL
carried a .22 calibre
shotgun, along a dirt
road. She began
swearing and yelling
that she was going to
take her own life,
then subsequently
placed the firearm on
a fence and
discharged it in the
direction of her chest,
shooting herself.
MAGISTRATES
COURT
30/01/1998 335 CC COMMON
ASSAULT (ON
19/12/97)
469 10 CC WILFUL
DAMAGE (ON
19/12/97)
CONVICTED
AND FINED
$100 IN
DEFAULT
IMPRISONM
ENT 3 DAYS
TIME TO PAY
3 MONTHS
FL, who said she was
very drunk at the
time, attended shortly
after 9am at the
Community Council
office. While there,
she acted in an
aggressive and hostile
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Court Date Offence Result Other Relevant
Information20
469 10 CC WILFUL
DAMAGE (ON
19/12/97)
CONVICTED
AND FINED
$100 IN
DEFAULT
IMPRISONM
MENT 3 DYS
TIME TO PAY
2 MONTHS
COMPENSAT
ION $200 IN
DEFAULT
IMPRISONM
ENT 6 DYS
TIME TO PAY
1 MONTH
NO
EVIDENCE
TO OFFER
DISMISSED
manner. She smashed
a window. She used
offensive language
towards council
employees,
attempted to hit and
kick one employee
and spat at him twice.
She broke his optical
glasses (which were in
his shirt pocket) while
he attempted to
restrain her.
MAGISTRATES
COURT
23/02/2007 CC COMMON
ASSAULT (ON
16.11.06)
NO
CONVICTION
RECORDED
FINED $200
I/D IMP 4
DAYS TIME
TO PAY 3
MTHS
The complainant is a
person employed by
the Royal Flying
Doctor Service (RFDS).
FL attended at council
premises, and
engaged in a verbal
argument with the
complainant and then
FL allegedly punched
her in the head.
MAGISTRATES
COURT
18/12/2009 [WA] 60(2)
SECURE STORAGE
OF WEAPONS –
REGISTERED
OWNER (ON
18/11/2009)
BCS0903812770
CONVICTION
RECORDED
FINED $200
TIME TO
PAY: 28D
Police attended at
FL’s home at 3am in
relation to other
matters. They located
FL’s rifle in an
unlocked storage
room under the
house. FL said she
always diligently
stored it securely and
said she was unaware
how this had
occurred.
MAGISTRATES
COURT
18/08/2014 [WA] 51(1)
POSSESSION OF A
KNIFE IN A PUBLIC
PLACE OR
SCHOOL (ON
CONVICTION
RECORDED
FINED
$150.00
At 7.40am, FL walked
from her home to the
home of her former
partner and called out
to the occupants.
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Court Date Offence Result Other Relevant
Information20
24/07/2014)
BCS1402537333
TIME TO
PAY: 28D
Police received
multiple telephone
calls from concerned
residents who said
they observed her
holding a knife while
yelling out. Police
intercepted her as she
walked home,
observing her to place
the knife in her
pocket as they
approached. It was
confiscated and FL
offered no lawful or
emergent reason for
having the knife in a
public place.
FL’s evidence about her most recent offence on 24 July 2014
[18] In respect of the most recent conviction for possessing a knife in a public
place, FL was fined $150.00. She says that the gravity of the offence is
reflected in the penalty that she received.
[19] The police information, as discussed above, suggests that the local police
received a number of calls from other residents of the town who were
concerned about FL’s behaviour, and that she was holding the knife in her
hand as she walked through the town. The police material says that FL was
calling out to her former partner at the time. Further, the police material says
that when FL saw the police vehicle, she put the knife in her pocket. FL
denies this, saying that a police officer asked her if she had a knife and she
said ‘yes’. She said she did not know how the police knew she had a knife.
She says that in fact, she did not have the knife out in public, it was in her
pocket.
[20] FL further says that she was not near a school. She says that she did these
things, at about 6:00am on the day concerned, in order to tell her former
partner not to allow his partner to ‘post stuff on Facebook’. She spoke about
‘degrading’ comments about herself and her daughter being placed on
Facebook. She says she took the knife because she thought that her former
partner would ‘probably bash me’.
[21] She gave some confusing evidence about the comments on Facebook.
Apparently, the comments are posted anonymously, but she suspects that
they are posted by a member of her former partner’s family, her former
partner himself and / or her former partner’s ex-partner because, she says,
that the person or persons concerned would not otherwise know about
some of the things that are posted. She was also upset on that morning
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because at about 5:30am, her former partner’s mother had a conversation
with her former partner’s brother, and there was a suggestion made by her
that FL was involved in a relationship with her former partner’s brother. This
is something which FL says she would not do.
[22] She says that she had reported the Facebook posts to the police some two
to three months earlier. The police suggested that she delete her Facebook
page, which she did. However, her daughter and others who use Facebook
told her about ongoing posts. She says that she asked the police whether
they could have Facebook delete the page. She also says that she asked
family and friends to report the posting of the offensive material to Facebook
online. However, the posts on Facebook continued.
[23] She explains that she acted as she did because, she simply wanted to tell
her former partner to tell his partner to stop making posts. She was feeling
hurt at the time and says she had enough of ‘stuff being posted’. In
hindsight, she admits that it was ‘a silly thing to do’. She says it was not like
her to walk the street with a knife in her hand. In response to the suggestion
that she had earlier said she did not have it in her hand, she gave a
confusing answer to the effect that she was ‘just saying that’ and that she
did not do that ‘kind of thing’.
[24] Initially, she did not accept that her actions had caused fear to other
persons. She said that she thought other persons must have thought she
was going to do something ‘really bad’, but asserted that she would not
have. Later on, she said she supposed that she had caused fear.
The other convictions
[25] In submissions to PSBA, FL expressed regret and remorse about her
offending.21 In the submissions, she said that in 1998, she made a decision
to reduce her alcohol intake, which she acknowledges contributed to her
earlier offending behaviour.22 She also acknowledges that her anger issues
have been a contributing factor and that her offending behaviour has been
unacceptable, saying that she has taken steps to address her issues, and
learnt skills to deal with her anger.23 She handed in her weapons licence
after the 2009 charge.
[26] When cross-examined at the hearing more broadly about her criminal
history and the offences involving assaults, FL said that in all of the
offences, she had been defending herself against her brother, Harris.
Further, she said she was young at the time.
[27] When it was suggested to FL that she had a history of offending and there
was a risk that she would do so again, she responded that she was ‘doing
some counselling’. She also said that she was speaking to a family support
21 Exhibit 1, esp pages 46-48.
22 Ibid, page 47.
23 Ibid, pages 46-48.
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worker; mostly keeping to herself; caring for her son and grandson; and
keeping away from trouble (by going away ‘out bush, camping, fishing’).
History of domestic and family violence
[28] In a written statement, FL says that for most of the period of their
relationship, her former partner was a loving and caring man, but towards
the end of the relationship he became increasingly violent. He became
violent when he drank alcohol during the relationship. Her witness
statement explains that at times when he was drunk, he physically, sexually
and verbally assaulted her. In oral evidence on 7 October 2015, she said
the history of violence spanned some 10 years.
[29] The Child Safety material refers to a history of violence committed by both
FL and her former partner.24 It refers to both FL and her former partner
having domestic violence orders against the other.25 Consistently with FL’s
evidence, the Child Safety material records her former partner as the main
aggressor.26 As a result of a violent incident in July 2015, her former partner
is in jail. As a result of the incident, FL sustained two large wounds on her
face above her eyes, which required stitches.27
[30] The Child Safety material refers, for example, to FL hitting her former
partner in the head with a shifting spanner in August 2013.28 While FL
acknowledges striking her former partner with it, she denies, contrary to the
information in the Child Safety records (which record that FL, her former
partner and her son were all in bed together),29 that her son was present
when this occurred. She says that they were living separately, but that her
former partner sometimes ‘comes over and won’t leave’. She asserted that
he ‘would have been drunk’ (although she could not recall whether he was,
or was not, intoxicated). When asked why she hit him, she said it was
because he was arguing with her and because he was seeing someone
else. She also said it was only a ‘little’ shifting spanner, and suggested that
if she had ‘just laid there, he’d have bashed’ her, ‘especially in the head’.
[31] The Child Safety material also refers to verbal arguments between FL and
her adult daughter.30 FL said that her daughter has come to her house to
argue with her, especially at night. She has asked her to come only when
she is sober.
[32] As discussed earlier, FL suggested that there was a history of violence
between herself and her brother, which resulted in criminal charges when
she defended herself against him.
24 Exhibit 5. For example, see pages 21, 55, 63, 67.
25 Exhibit 5, pages 21 and 67.
26 Exhibit 5, page 21.
27 Exhibit 5, page 119.
28 See also Exhibit 5 at pages 55-67.
29 Exhibit 5, page 55.
30 Exhibit 5, at pages 40-41
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Child Safety material generally31
[33] There have been a number of Child Safety contacts. There is one
notification of substantiated emotional harm to her son arising out of the
July 2015 incident.32 There are no concerns in the Child Safety material
about the way FL parents her son, but there are concerns about her ability
to adequately protect him from harm.33 The Child Safety material indicates
that FL has support and involvement with her family. However, Child
Safety’s investigations suggest that FL does not engage with her family
during the honeymoon phase of the domestic violence cycle after
reconciling with her former partner: she contacts them only when the
violence starts again.34 FL, in responding to questions about this concern,
said words to the effect of ‘He’s in jail. How can I be in the honeymoon
phase’. When asked to comment on the cycle of violence, she replied ‘that’s
why I never put children in front of people who are fighting’.
[34] The material records that in the July incident her former partner assaulted
FL while she was holding her son.35 FL has told Child Safety that her son
is afraid of her former partner and does not want to go with him.36 She was
encouraged by a Child Safety representative in July 2015 to see Legal Aid
to seek ‘full custody’ of her son.37 Child Safety representatives have also
told her that they would be very worried for her son if she was to reconcile
with her former partner, because this would mean her son was having
contact with her former partner, which would likely result in her son being
further exposed to significant violence or her son being harmed.38
Information provided to Child Safety suggests that her former partner may
use her son to get to FL.39
[35] FL has been working with Child Safety to develop a Safety Plan for her
former partner’s eventual release from custody and return.40 That said, in
oral evidence, FL said that she did not know why they still came to see her,
because when he was released, they were going to do another plan. She
also stated that she had not taken advice about seeking full custody: she
said that she would do it when she was ‘ready, and that will be soon
enough’. She then said she would ‘probably’ go when the court comes to
town (suggesting that it visits monthly).
Relationship with her former partner
[36] When asked if she intended to resume a relationship with her former
partner, FL responded by asking why she would ‘want to live with a person
31 Exhibit 5.
32 Exhibit 5, page 128.
33 Exhibit 5, page 140.
34 Exhibit 5, page 130.
35 Exhibit 5, page 89.
36 Exhibit 5, page 109.
37 Exhibit 5, page 119.
38 Exhibit 5, page 119.
39 Exhibit 5, page 129.
40 Exhibit 5, page 130.
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who half kills you’. When asked how she could reassure the Tribunal of her
intention not to do so, she spoke about not wanting to ‘sit on Centrelink’.
When asked again, she said, words to the effect that she had just said she
wasn’t and that she ‘can’t see into the future’. She said she had decided
that she would not do so, when he kicked her face in, but said it was hard
for him to keep away from her, although she had stayed away from him in
the past.
[37] When it was suggested to her that the Child Safety records indicated that
in August 2015, she had said she was unsure if she would recommence a
relationship with him upon his release, 41 she said that she had told them at
the start that she was ‘not going back’, but they kept asking her and she got
tired of it. When asked to comment upon concerns expressed by family
members (in the Child Safety material) that she would reconcile with her
former partner, she responded with words to the effect that ‘He’s in jail. I
can’t sleep with him’.
Alcohol Consumption
[38] As discussed above, FL’s submission to PSBA was that she decided to limit
her alcohol consumption in 1998. FL’s written statement and oral evidence
on 7 October 2015 were to the effect that in the past she drank alcohol, but
that she stopped drinking alcohol altogether since falling pregnant with her
son, her son. She said that she had tried drugs as young person but did not
‘like it’ and has not tried it again.
[39] At the hearing on 1 December 2015, she said that she had resumed
consuming alcohol ‘maybe a month back’, although only about once a week
or once a fortnight. She said when she drinks alcohol, she consumes no
more than a six-pack of mid-strength beer at a time. When asked why she
had started again, she responded by asking whether there was a law
against her drinking and stated ‘I just stop then start’.
[40] She explained that she works at the ‘pub,’ and has done so since about
June 2015, saying that working there stops her from drinking, because she
cannot go drinking if she has to work. She also said that she stopped
drinking when she was working at the safe house, and had to be there by
7am in the morning. FL worked at the safe house for the period 22 August
2014 to 9 June 2015.42
[41] The Child Safety material includes a record that Child Safety were told by
family member in July 2015 that FL and her former partner drink in their
relationship, but that FL does not drink as much as she used to and not as
much as her former partner.43
41 Exhibit 5, pages 147-148.
42 Exhibit 6.
43 Exhibit 5, page 122.
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Mental health issues
[42] The Child Safety material refers FL requiring intensive and ongoing
counselling to understand the dynamics of her relationship with her former
partner, as a result of which her ‘emotional stability should improve’. 44
[43] FL denies suffering from depression or anxiety or seeing a doctor for it. She
said her suicide attempts occurred when she was young and she had not
realised it would haunt her. She now tells people not to do it. She said she
was able to deal with things in her own way. For example, by going fishing
or camping or talking with her family.
Counselling
[44] In 2012, FL commenced counselling at the Royal Flying Doctor Service
(‘RFDS’). That counselling was for anger management and other
relationship problems. She continued this for about two to two and a half
years, but RFDS stopped attending at the Aboriginal community.
[45] In 2015, she was referred by Child Safety to NS for family and domestic
violence counselling. NS holds certificates III and IV in various areas
including counselling. He has been counselling since 2011 but has no
experience in reporting about appropriateness to work with children.
According to NS, they have had about 8 sessions. The most recent session
was about mid-October. He reports working with FL to strengthen her
coping abilities for anger management and to develop safety plans to deal
with circumstances when she experiences trigger situations.45 His reports
describe her as working well. He has told her about the detrimental impact
that violence is known to have on young children and the need for her to
modify her behaviour so that there is no negative impact on children in her
care. In his most recent report, he stated that currently there are no
significant risk factors and triggers which may affect her behaviour.46
[46] NS also gave oral evidence on 1 December 2015. He explained that he had
read FL’s criminal history and PSBA’s reasons for issuing a negative notice.
He said that her main risk factor is ‘the perpetrator but he’s not in the
community at the moment’. He said that they had ‘not yet’ discussed
whether FL would resume a relationship with her former partner when he is
released from jail. He described FL as using alcohol at the ‘base level’ and
not binge-drinking, just having ‘a couple of beers or wines’. He spoke about
techniques he had suggested to FL for anger management purposes, in
particular, suggesting a powerful strategy was recognising the physical
changes which occur in the body when a person gets angry, and then
thinking about whether the event/issue is worth getting angry about and
using breathing to calm down. He considered she was receptive, but had
not yet needed to use the strategies.
44 Exhibit 5, page 143.
45 Exhibits 8 and 9.
46 Exhibit 9.
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[47] Also in 2015, FL has been seeing a Family Support Worker every two to
three weeks when she is in the Aboriginal community.
[48] FL said that she had learned from counselling that ‘being with an aggressive
person is not good, especially for a child’. She said that she knows it hurts
the children and that it is not right for them to know what is going on. When
asked about strategies she had learned, she referred to going fishing with
her children. She wants to move forward and does not want to be classed
as a bad parent. As discussed earlier, she says that she does not put
children in front of people who are fighting.
Referee reports
[49] FL presented a number of other referee reports in support of her
application.
[50] Only JE was made available for cross-examination. She has known FL for
many years and was her manager when she worked at the safe house. She
considers FL very good with children, a great worker and a good person.
She was not aware of the detail of FL’s criminal history. She is not aware
of any Child Safety interactions with her, nor the reasons for refusal of the
blue card.
Is FL’s an exceptional case?
Parties Submissions
[51] FL’s representatives submit that FL’s case is not exceptional. It argues that
she has addressed her anti-social behaviour. She handed in her weapons
licence. She has gained some insight through counselling. She has taken
pro-active measures to address her alcohol consumption. She has
‘undertaken’ not to resurrect her relationship with her former partner.
Further, they argue she has undertaken to formalise arrangements with her
son.
[52] Further, they argue on her behalf that she has held responsible positions in
the past and worked with children previously and her offending has not
interfered with her work and had only 3 convictions in the last 13 years. She
has involved herself in church and community. While acknowledging that
her last offence was only in 2014, they argue that she has had to deal with
the blue card rejection and has not reoffended and has done all she can to
reduce her triggers.
[53] PSBA submits that its decision to issue a negative notice is the correct and
preferable decision and that the decision should be confirmed. It
acknowledges some protective factors. In particular, FL presents as willing
to work with Child Safety; she has a supportive family network; and she has
had steady gainful employment.
[54] However, noting that FL was intoxicated when she offended on numerous
occasions, it submits that as she is drinking alcohol again, that this
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constitutes a significant risk factor. It submits her criminal history reflects
adversely on her ability to manage her anger and alcohol. Further, it argues
that FL minimises her behaviour and claims that she was always defending
herself against someone. It submits that this reflects poorly on her insight
into her own behaviour. PSBA also submits that the recent substantiated
instance of emotional harm made by Child Safety raising concerns about
FL’s ability to protect her son from harm also represents a risk factor. PSBA
suggests that she requires more counselling to assist her to gain insight
and protective strategies. Further, so far she has not taken advice about
custody of her son and there is uncertainty about her ongoing relationship
with her former partner.
[55] In summary, PSBA submits that FL has not yet been able to demonstrate
that she can prioritise her son’s needs for a safe environment and has
unresolved issues about her alcohol use, anger issues and interactions with
her former partner which outweigh her protective factors.
Discussion and my conclusions
[56] FL does not have any convictions for serious or disqualifying offences as
defined in the Working with Children Act. However, for the reasons
explained in the following paragraphs, I am satisfied that this is an
exceptional case in which it would not be in the best interests of children for
FL to be issued with a positive notice.
[57] I have given JE’s evidence little weight given that she had no knowledge of
FL’s criminal and child safety history, nor PSBA’s reasons for issuing a
negative notice. I have given the statements of persons who were not made
available for cross-examination little weight as their evidence has not been
tested.
[58] NS is aware of FL’s history, criminal record and the reasons PSBA made
its decision. However, he has no experience in reporting about child-related
employment screening decisions. He reports that FL is working well.
However, there are some limitations to the weight that can be given to his
evidence about how well she is working. He has counselled FL on only
relatively few occasions. The strategies for anger management that he
suggested to FL were not identified by her, although she did say that she
had learned that being with an aggressive person was not good for a child.
Further, he has not seen her ability to apply anything she has learned,
saying that she has not yet needed to use the strategies they had
discussed. He suggested that her former partner is her main risk factor,
despite FL’s own acknowledgment that more generally anger and alcohol
issues have played a part in her criminal convictions over the years. The
circumstances of those charges confirm that to be so.
[59] I find that FL has some protective factors. I accept that she involves herself
with her family, church and community which ensures she has support
around her, although allegations are made, which she does not contradict,
that she does not contact her family when she and her former partner are
in the ‘honeymoon’ phase of the domestic violence cycle. She has been
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working with Child Safety. Her willingness to do so, is a positive and
protective factor. She has also been willing to undergo some counselling.
However, as discussed later, it is not clear that she has benefited to the
desired extent from counselling at this point.
[60] FL has also worked in the past in a variety of roles, some of which appear
to have been responsible positions. She has not reoffended following the
issuing of a negative notice, which was no doubt a significant blow to her
aspirations to continue working at the childrens’ safe house. Further, the
frequency of her criminal charges have decreased over the years:
accordingly, it does appear that FL’s offending behaviour has diminished
over time. Broadly speaking, the reduced number of charges coincide with
the time from which FL decided to change her drinking habits, that is, in
1998.
[61] However, I find that FL has numerous risk factors. For the reasons
discussed in the following paragraphs, I find that these risk factors outweigh
the protective factors.
[62] I accept that FL has taken some preliminary steps towards gaining insight
into her issues and making changes in her life to address them. She
acknowledges, to some extent, anger and alcohol issues. She has attended
counselling over several years. However, on the available evidence, I am
not reasonably satisfied that she has developed real insight into triggers,
risks and issues at this stage and that, in relation to matters about which
she does have some insight, that she is equipped with the skills and
strategies required to respond appropriately when she experiences risk and
trigger situations. She did not identify the strategy NS referred to as being
especially powerful when she is angry. He suggested that she had not
needed to use the strategies they had discussed. FL’s evidence did not
suggest that she had. I am not satisfied that her ability to implement any
newly acquired knowledge and skills that she may have gained have not
been tested.
[63] FL has a significant history of criminal offending. Her criminal history spans
1992 and 2014, although in the last 10 years she has only three convictions.
I accept that the penalties imposed have generally been small, suggesting
that courts may have considered the offences relatively minor. I also
acknowledge her expressed regret about the offending behaviour
generally. However, I find that there is a significant risk that she will re-
offend. The 2014 conviction is recent. Also, I am not satisfied that FL has
fully accepted responsibility for her actions. Even now, she minimises her
behaviour that led to the convictions. She blamed others, such as her
brother, for her behaviour which led to convictions.
[64] In respect of the 2014 conviction, she initially claimed that her actions would
not have caused fear in other persons. This reflects poorly on her insight.
She initially claimed that she did not carry the knife openly through the
streets. Her version is inconsistent with reports to the police of a number of
persons; the observations of the police officer/s who record seeing her
place the knife in her pocket as they approached; and her own later
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comments at the hearing acknowledging the behaviour but suggesting that
it was uncharacteristic behaviour for her and ‘a silly thing to do’.
[65] I accept that she took the knife because her former partner would ‘probably
bash’ her. This concern about how her former partner may likely react when
she approached him seems well-founded, based on their history of
domestic violence. Despite that, I am satisfied that she made a decision to
confront him about Facebook posts which she considered degrading,
(although it is not clear from her description of them just what they were or
why they could be considered degrading). I am satisfied that she walked
through the streets carrying a knife in her hand when doing so. Based on
FL’s explanation, it is reasonable to infer, and I draw the inference, that her
decision to confront him was made impulsively out of anger.
[66] Of course, she has had more counselling since then. NS has explained
strategies which may assist her with anger management. However, as
discussed earlier, FL did not articulate strategies referred to by NS when
cross-examined, casting doubt on the extent to which she has, at this stage,
benefited from counselling.
[67] Further, the relatively recent 2013 incident with the shifting spanner, which
it appears, did not result in charges, is also a cause for concern. Again, FL
minimised the conduct by saying that it ‘was only a little’ shifting spanner.
[68] The Child Safety contact following her former partner’s violence towards
FL, resulted in the substantiated Child Safety notification of emotional harm
to her son in 2015, and concerns relating to FL’s assessed inability to
protect her son from harm. Although her former partner is incarcerated, it is
likely he will return to the community at some future point.
[69] It is reasonable to infer from the events in 2013, 2014 and 2015, that FL
has unresolved issues (including those associated with the cycle of
domestic violence) in and arising from her relationship with her former
partner. NS considers him a major risk factor.
[70] FL’s has failed to take any steps at this stage to resolve issues around
custody. Some months have passed since she was encouraged to do so.
Although her former partner is not currently in the community and there may
not be a sense of urgency, it would seem unwise to delay attention to this
issue so that arrangements are in place for his return. Further, it is
concerning that FL was defensive in giving her evidence about intentions
to address it and when she would attend to it. Statements that she would
do it when she was ‘ready’ do not engender confidence in her resolve to do
so. On the evidence, I am not reasonably satisfied that she intends to do
so, or to do so in a timely manner.
[71] Similarly, her responses about her intentions towards her future relationship
with her former partner were equivocal. I find that there is a significant risk
that she will resume a relationship with him. Even if she does not do so, I
am satisfied, based on events since the 2013 separation, that there is a
significant risk that there will be ongoing conflict between them as a
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consequence of issues arising from the separation. This presents a risk that
FL will engage in violent, potentially offending, behaviour, or again be a
victim of such behaviour resulting in the likelihood of harm to children in her
care.
[72] FL, according to her statement, had not consumed alcohol since she fell
pregnant with her son. Then on 1 December 2015, she initially stated that
she had recently, that is, within a month, started consuming alcohol again.
I do not accept this chronology. It is inconsistent with her later evidence (on
1 December 2015) and the Child Safety material which suggests that she
has been consuming alcohol since her pregnancy with her son at various
times. FL and NS report that she is consuming a limited amount and not on
a frequent basis. The Child Safety material, which contains information from
family members, although acknowledging she has reduced her alcohol
intake, suggests she was drinking prior to a month ago, as does her own
acknowledgment that she stopped drinking when she was working at the
safe house in 2014.
[73] I am satisfied that drinking alcohol is a risk factor for FL. A significant portion
of her earlier offending behaviour occurred while she was intoxicated. It is
also suggested in the Child Safety material that domestic violence may
occur within the context of both her former partner and FL drinking alcohol,
although I give this allegation little weight that FL was not asked about that
issue.
[74] I am cognisant that despite the history of mutual domestic violence and
mutual domestic violence orders, her former partner is considered by Child
Safety and NS to be the main aggressor, rather than FL. I accept that she
is herself a victim in the cycle of violence. I am further cognisant of the
undesirability of re-victimisation. Additionally, I accept as FL says that there
is violence everywhere in her community. However, the paramount
consideration in this review is the welfare and best interests of children. It
is clear from the authorities referred to earlier that any hardship or prejudice
to FL is irrelevant in deciding the proceeding.
[75] I make the observation that FL has commenced a journey towards
understanding and addressing her issues. I commend her for her efforts to
date and encourage her to continue to do so. However, at this time, I find
that FL has numerous significant risk factors which, at this stage, outweigh
the protective factors in place around her.
[76] On this basis, I am satisfied that it is an exceptional case in which it would
not be in the best interests of children for a positive notice to issue.
Orders
[77] In light of my findings, the correct and preferable decision is to confirm
PSBA’s decision to issue a negative notice. I make orders accordingly.
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Non-publication order
[78] The Tribunal has the power under s 66 of the Queensland Civil and
Administrative Tribunal Act 2009 to prohibit the publication of information
that might enable a person to be identified, in circumstances where it would
not be in the interests of justice to identify their names.
[79] Some of the material considered by the Tribunal in these review
proceedings contain information about FL’s 4 year old child, child safety
notifications with the Department and incidents involving domestic violence.
I am satisfied that there is no public interest served by disclosing any
information which would identify the child. This information includes FL’s
name, her former partner’s name, FL’s children and her community, in
circumstances where disclosure of her name, her partner’s name and her
community would identify her child. The Tribunal therefore prohibits the
publication of all information which may lead to the identification of FL, her
former partner, her children, and her community. The Tribunal’s reasons for
decision can only be published to the public in de-identified format.
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Official source: https://www.sclqld.org.au/caselaw/QCAT/2016/147