Ferraro v Griffin National Real Estate Pty Ltd & Constable [2016] QCAT 11
CITATION: Ferraro v Griffin National Real Estate Pty Ltd &
Constable [2016] QCAT 11
PARTIES: Catherine Ferraro
(Applicant)
v
Griffin National Real Estate Pty Ltd
Jolyon Robert Constable
(Respondents)
APPLICATION NUMBER: OCL047-15
MATTER TYPE: Other civil dispute matters
HEARING DATE: 8 December 2015
HEARD AT: Brisbane
DECISION OF: Member Gordon
DELIVERED ON: 6 January 2016
DELIVERED AT: Brisbane
ORDERS MADE: The application by Griffin National Real
Estate Pty Ltd and Jolyon Robert Constable
filed on 9 October 2015 (seeking a dismissal
of the proceedings) fails and the matter shall
proceed.
CATCHWORDS: Application to dismiss claim as lacking in
substance followed the death of one of the
parties
Agents Financial Administration Act 2014 (Qld)
APPEARANCES and REPRESENTATION (if any):
This matter was heard and determined on the papers pursuant to s 32 of the
Queensland Civil and Administrative Tribunal Act 2009 (QCAT Act).
REASONS FOR DECISION
[1] On 9 October 2015 Griffin National Real Estate Pty Ltd and Jolyon Constable
applied to have these proceedings dismissed because they were no longer
capable of proof following the death of one of the applicants.
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[2] On 8 December 2015 I decided that the application to dismiss did not succeed
and made an order accordingly. Griffin National Real Estate and Mr
Constable now ask for reasons for that decision.
[3] The proceedings arise from a claim made by Battista and Catherine Ferraro
against the Claim Fund operated by the Office of Fair Trading. The claim
concerned rent money paid by their tenants which had not reached their joint
bank account. Griffin National Real Estate Pty Ltd managed the tenancy and
Jolyon Constable was the licensee. The claim was for about $40,800.
[4] It seems to be common ground between the two sides (without making a
binding finding to that effect) that the tenants paid the rent moneys to Griffin
National and Griffin National paid them into a bank account which is now
known to be the bank account of W.
[5] Griffin National say that W’s bank details were in fact given to them by Mr
Ferraro. They say that W was known to Mr Ferraro. The suggestion is that
Mr Ferraro (also acting on Mrs Ferraro’s behalf) wanted to divert the rent
money to W for one reason or another. They say therefore that the rent
money actually went into the account that were instructed to pay it to.
[6] One important issue in the case is whether Mr Ferraro did in fact give W’s
bank details to Griffin National. This is in dispute.
[7] Further it is said on Mrs Ferraro’s behalf that Griffin National should have
used existing bank details which they and/or their employee were aware of
from previous dealings. Also it is said that they should have realised that W’s
bank was not at Westpac which they knew was where Mrs and Mrs Ferraro
had their joint account, and so they should have checked whether the bank
details were correct. On this basis the Applicant says that Griffin National are
responsible for the money going into the wrong account.
[8] W has paid back some of the money and may be continuing to make
repayments.
[9] If Mr and Mrs Ferraro suffered financial loss because Griffin National Real
Estate Pty Ltd or Jolyon Constable committed a prescribed event (in this case
failing to remit rent moneys to the person entitled to it or in accordance with
that person’s written directions) then they may be ordered to repay such
money as remains unpaid by W.
[10] On 24 September 2015 Battista Ferraro died. On 13 October 2015 the
Tribunal made an order removing him from the proceedings. Effectively the
proceedings continued with Catherine Ferraro as the only Applicant.
[11] One of the bases on which the application to dismiss is made is because of
the death of Battista Ferraro. It is said that Mrs Ferraro is not going to be able
to prove her case on the issues which are apparent on the question of liability,
and also she is also not going to be able to prove any loss.
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[12] This overlooks the fact that in civil claims an applicant only needs to prove a
case on the balance of probabilities, that is to say the facts of the case do not
need to be proved absolutely. It is sufficient to prove that they are more likely
to have happened than not to have happened.
[13] It also overlooks that where facts cannot be proved from direct evidence given
by a witness they can be proved in other ways. One way is by hearsay
evidence. One type of hearsay evidence is an oral or written statement
coming from the person who cannot be called as a witness. In this case there
is certainly material on the Tribunal’s file suggesting that the facts of the case
were discussed between Mr Ferraro and his daughter. What was said in
those conversations by Mr Ferraro has been put in evidence by his daughter
and is probably admissible in the Tribunal proceedings. In addition to this,
the facts of the matter and the evidence of both sides was fully aired prior to
Mr Ferraro’s death and is available in the documentation provided by the
Chief Executive of the Office of Fair Trading to the Tribunal in the referral.
Amongst the documents is a statement dealing with the facts in dispute which
appears to be signed by Mr Ferraro. This document would probably be
admissible in evidence in the Tribunal proceedings.
[14] Another way to prove facts is by documents created at the time of the events
concerned. These are generally admitted in evidence. There are a number
of documents on the file which appear to be relevant to the issues to be
decided by the Tribunal.
[15] In addition to the above, where necessary and permissible, facts can be
inferred by the Tribunal. Again no direct proof is required.
[16] In almost every case therefore it would be quite wrong and unfair to a party
to strike out their case merely because one of the parties or an important
witness had died. In this particular case there is no reason to approach the
matter any differently.
[17] Another basis relied on to support the application to dismiss the claim is that
the recipient of the money had agreed to repay the money and therefore, it is
said, there was no loss. Reference is made to section 105(3)(i) of the Agents
Financial Administration Act 2014 (Qld) which requires the Tribunal to take
into account any amount the claimant might reasonably have received or
recovered if not for the claimant’s neglect or default. The difficulty with this
argument is that it would appear that currently only some of the money has
been repaid, and the Tribunal is going to have to decide whether any
deduction for money which might be paid in the future ought to be made under
section 105(3)(i). The answer to this is not obvious and a hearing will be
required to resolve it.
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Official source: https://www.sclqld.org.au/caselaw/QCAT/2016/011