Barry v Commissioner of Police [2015] QDC 61
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DISTRICT COURT OF QUEENSLAND
CITATION: Barry v Commissioner of Police [2015] QDC 61
PARTIES: WILLIAM BARRY
Appellant
and
COMMISSIONER OF POLICE
Respondent
FILE NO: No. 324 of 2014
PROCEEDING: Appeal against sentence
DELIVERED ON: 13 February 2015
DELIVERED AT: Southport
HEARING
DATES:
6, 11 & 13 February 2015
JUDGE: Judge C.F. Wall Q.C.
ORDER: Appeal allowed
CATCHWORDS: CRIMINAL LAW – APPEAL AGAINST SENTENCE –
BAIL GRANTED PENDING APPEAL – where the
appellant was granted bail but remained in custody for other
offences – whether a sentence stops running once bail is
granted in circumstances where appellant was not released
from custody – whether release from custody is required –
appellant sentenced to 9 months imprisonment for using a
carriage service to menace, harass, or cause offence –
whether the sentence was manifestly excessive
Bail Act 1980, s 19, s 20, s 23, s 24, s 27, s 31, s 34
Child Protection (Offender Reporting) Act 2004
Commonwealth Crimes Act 1914, s 17A, 19B, 20(1)(a)
Commonwealth Criminal Code 1995, s 474.17 (1)
Penalties and Sentences Act 1992, s 147, s 158, s 159A
(4)(A), s 159A (10)
Re Groves [1973] Qd R 310
COUNSEL: Mr J. McNab for the Appellant
Mr N. McGhee (6 & 11 February), Mr M. Whitbread (13
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February), and Ms V. Deane for the Respondent
SOLICITORS: Legal Aid Queensland for the Appellant
Queensland Director of Public Prosecutions and
Commonwealth Director of Public Prosecutions for the
Respondent
HIS HONOUR: This is an appeal by the defendant against sentences imposed on him on the
27th of October 2014 in the Magistrates Court at Southport. On that date, the appellant was
convicted after pleading guilty of an offence of using a carriage service to menace, harass, or
cause offence contrary to section 474.17(1) of the Commonwealth Criminal Code committed
on the 2nd of October 2014. He was sentenced to imprisonment for nine months with release 5
after three months – that is, on the 26th of January 2015 – upon entering into a recognisance
to be of good behaviour for three years. The maximum penalty for the offence is three years
imprisonment.
This conviction also breached a suspended sentence of imprisonment of four months, 10
imposed on him in the Ipswich Magistrates Court on the 10th of December 2013 for six
offences of failing to comply with a reporting requirement under the Child Protection
(Offender Reporting) Act 2004. These offences were committed between the 4th and the 9th
of September 2013. The operational period of the sentences was 12 months.
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The Magistrate found that it would not be unjust to order the appellant to serve the whole of
the suspended imprisonment of four months. His Honour ordered that the appellant serve the
whole of the suspended imprisonment and fixed a parole release date of the 26th of January
2015. The effect of his Honour’s orders as to release dates, which is also agreed by the
parties, is that the sentences are to be served concurrently, notwithstanding that his Honour 20
earlier said that the Commonwealth sentence was to be cumulative upon the State sentences.
Also on the 10th of December 2013 in the Ipswich Magistrates Court, the appellant was
convicted of eight fraud offences committed in April, May, July, and August 2013. For
these, he was sentenced to 18 months imprisonment on each charge concurrent, and a parole 25
release date of the 10th of March 2014 was fixed. He was thus on parole when he committed
the present Commonwealth offence.
His criminal history also included convictions in the Townsville Magistrates Court on the 1st
of February 2013 of four fraud offences committed in October 2012 and two offences of 30
failing to comply with reporting conditions committed in September and October 2012. For
each of the fraud offences, he was sentenced to six months imprisonment concurrent with his
parole release date fixed as the 1st of December 2013, and for the other offences he was fined.
He also has convictions in Victoria. In October 2008 he was sentenced to 66 months 35
imprisonment for child sex offences. In March 1999 he was sentenced to concurrent terms of
two months imprisonment for fraud-related offences, and in February 1998, for fraud-related
offences, he was sentenced to wholly suspended terms of four and five months’
imprisonment. In 1979, he was fined for stealing.
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He was granted bail pending the hearing of this appeal on the 21st of November 2014, but has
not been released in accordance with that grant of bail because he is in
custody serving the sentence of 18 months imprisonment because his parole was revoked on
the 27th of October 2014. His full-time release date is the 10th of March 2015. He is said by
the Department of Corrective Services and by the respondents to the appeal not now to be 5
held in custody on the sentences under appeal, notwithstanding the imperfected grant of bail.
Notwithstanding the presentence custody certificate – exhibit 5 – it does, though, appear that
he has, since the 27th of October 2014, been serving the sentences imposed on that date
concurrently with the sentences of 18 months. The Commonwealth contends that he has 10
served only 26 days between the 27th of October and when bail was granted on the 21st of
November, but the fact is he was not released on the 21st of November 2014.
Notwithstanding that a presentence custody certificate is not intended to determine whether a
prisoner is or is not being held in custody on a particular charge, see the Penalties and 15
Sentences Act, section 159A(4A) and (10), more so at this stage of proceedings. The
certificate in the present case – exhibit 5 – states, in relation to the present Commonwealth
charge:
The prisoner is not held in custody on this charge. Prisoner was held on remand for 20
this charge on 17th of October 2014 to 27 October 2014. At this date, he was sentenced
for this charge. Appeal bail granted 21st of November 2014.
This state of affairs is repeated in the Corrective Services sentence calculations – exhibit 4 –
wherein it is recorded that as a result o the grant of bail on the 27th of November 2014, the 25
present charges have “been removed from the sentence calculation.”
The respondents contend that the sentence stopped running when the appellant was granted
bail, even though he was not released from custody as a result of the grant of bail. They rely
on section 158A of the Penalties and Sentences Act which provides: 30
The term of imprisonment of an offender who appeals against sentence and is granted
bail awaiting the determination of the appeal does not run during the time the offender
is on bail.
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In my view, the offender is not on bail for the purposes of this section until he is released
from custody.
In addition, the Bail Act clearly distinguishes between a grant of bail and release on bail.
See, for example, sections 19, 20, 23, 24, 27, 31, and 34. This is consistent with the common 40
law position. In Re Groves [1973] Qd R 310 at 311 Mr Justice W.B. Campbell said:
A person is said to be admitted to bail when he is released from the custody of officers
of the law and entrusted to the private custody of persons called his bail. They become
bound as sureties to produce him to answer, according to law to the charge or claim at 45
a specified date or place (1 Hale, Pleas of the Crown, at page 96).
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This is also how bail is defined in Osborn’s Concise Law Dictionary. In Judicial and
Statutory Definitions of Words and Phrases, a 1905 United States publication, the following
is said of the terms ‘bail,’ ‘released on bail,’ and ‘admission to bail’:
Bail as a verb means the delivery of one under arrest to another. Bail is a delivery or 5
bailment of a person to his sureties; hence, a person out on bail is regarded in legal
theory as in the custody of the sureties. The term “to bail” signifies to deliver and was
at common law the delivery of the respondent to the persons who became sureties for
his appearance. Blackstone derives the word bail from the French ‘bailler,’ to deliver
into hands. Some derive it from the Greek word to deliver into hands. A person 10
released on bail is a person who is not in prison. An allegation in an action on an
appeal bond that the accused was admitted to bail did not constitute an averment that
the person was discharged from custody.
The appellant was not released from custody following the order made on 21st of November 15
2014. The fact that this was because of other sentences he was serving does not mean he did
not continue to serve the sentences under appeal. In my view, he did. The grant of bail on
the 21st of November 2014 did not result in his release on bail for the sentences under appeal.
He remained in custody serving those sentences. This means that he has already served the
custodial portion of the sentences imposed on the 27th of October 2014. If the respondents’ 20
argument is correct, there would be no point in making a bail application. The application
was made in the present case on the basis that the appellant may have been released earlier on
the other sentences he is serving.
Notwithstanding these facts, it is necessary, in any event, to consider the merits of the 25
appellant’s appeal.
The facts of the Commonwealth offence as stated by the police Prosecutor, explained by Ms
Turner, solicitor who appeared for the defendant, and accepted by the Magistrate are these.
On the 2nd of October 2014, the defendant was at his home address at Southport. He 30
completed an online inquiry with Flight Centre on their website. The form related to the
defendant inquiring about flights to Cairns. About 3 pm the same date Victoria Winwood
from Flight Centre Southport telephoned the defendant on his mobile phone. She asked him
why he was travelling to Cairns. He said he was going to Cairns as he was arranging for a
bikie to kill his wife. Ms Winwood laughed, presuming the defendant was joking. He then 35
said, “No, I’m deadly serious. You can keep that to yourself.”
Winwood was immediately alarmed by the comment. However, she continued to discuss the
defendant’s travel so he did not become suspicious. At the termination of the phone call she
reported his comments to her supervisor and the police. 40
On the same day the police attended the defendant’s home address where he was located and
he accompanied them to the Surfers Paradise Police Station where he took part in an
interview. In that interview he admitted telling the Flight Centre employee that he had
planned to travel to Cairns to arrange for his wife to be killed. He agreed that Winwood’s 45
version of what he said was correct. He said he made the comment as a joke and he had no
ex-wives living in Australia and had no intention of arranging for any ex-wives to be killed.
He agreed the comments could cause alarm to the other person at the other end of the phone.
There were no threats made against the particular person. Rather, it was stupid comment.
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Ms Turner made the following submissions to the magistrate. The appellant is 53 and
employed full time as a travelling salesman in renewal energy solar panels. He made a very
stupid comment, a stupid joke, a poor attempt at humour for which he is sorry. He is not now
married and has two former wives, both living overseas. He cooperated with police and 5
made admissions. No threat was made against any person. He is not charged with
threatening to kill a person. No one was, in fact, in danger. He doesn’t know any bikies.
This is not a domestic violence issue. There is no aggrieved spouse saying she felt threatened
that he was going to do anything. He was very remorseful. It was an early plea of guilty. It
was an isolated event. He has not offended in a like manner previously. Most of the 10
comparative sentences referred to were of threats made to or about actual persons.
Ms Turner also contended that the appellant had served about 23 days in non-declarable
pre-sentence custody between the 4th and the 27th of October 2014. This was, in fact, time
served on the 18-month sentence following the revocation of his parole. Ms Turner 15
submitted that it was the Commonwealth offence that, “in effect, was what got him in
custody now.” That may be so but it didn’t mean that the time could legitimately be taken
into account and declared. The magistrate, though, referred to it and said:
It is a matter that I can take into account in my calculations of what to impose here 20
today.
This suggests a sentence starting point higher than nine months or a reduction in his release
date for this reason.
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For the Commonwealth offence the police Prosecutor submitted that a conviction be
recorded; that a fine was not appropriate; that a section 19B bond is not suitable; and that,
“at the very least,” a section 20(1)(a) bond could be imposed but that a fine could be imposed
which would be “somewhat more severe than a bond.” For the State offences it was
submitted that it would not be unjust to order the appellant to serve the whole of the 30
suspended imprisonment. Alternatively, it was submitted that he should be ordered to serve
part of the suspended imprisonment.
For the Commonwealth offence Ms Turner submitted the non-declarable pre-sentence
custody was a sufficient punishment and that a section 20(1)(a) bond should be imposed. For 35
the State offences it was submitted that it would be unjust to “activate” the suspended
sentences and the operational period should be extended for 12 months because the
Commonwealth offence is different to the fraud offences and because of the non-declaration
pre-sentence custody.
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On the appeal, Mr McNab for the appellant submitted that because the magistrate did not, as
he was required by section 17A of the Crimes Act, state that he had considered all available
sentences and was satisfied that no other sentence than imprisonment was appropriate in all
of the circumstances, the sentence should be re-considered.
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Notwithstanding that his failure to do so does not invalidate the sentence (section 17A(3)) it
is an error which does enliven the discretion to reconsider the sentence imposed for the
Commonwealth offence. Other submissions made by Mr McNab were:
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Commonwealth offence:
(1) Insufficient regard was had to the appellant’s cooperation with and admissions to
police.
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(2) The magistrate wrongly approached the offence as one of making a threat to kill,
which he was not charged with.
(3) Too much weight was placed on the appellant’s criminal history, contrary to what
is said in Veen v the Queen (No 2) (1988) 164 CLR 465 at 477 to the effect that 10
whilst it can be taken into account, it should not be given such weight as to lead to
the imposition of a penalty which is disproportionate to the gravity of the instant
offence. To do so would impose a fresh penalty for past offences.
(4) Comparative decisions to which the magistrate was referred do not support the 15
sentence imposed. Rather, they support a bond.
(5) Insufficient weight was placed on the appellant’s guilty plea at the earliest
opportunity.
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(6) The magistrate placed weight on the prevalence of domestic violence in Australia
and allowed this to influence his approach and distract him in circumstances
where the charge was not one of committing domestic violence.
State offences: 25
(7) It was unjust to impose all of the suspended imprisonment because the
Commonwealth offence is an offence unrelated to the suspended imprisonment
offences, was committed about 10 months into the 12 months’ operational period
and is towards the lower end of criminality. 30
Mr McNab submitted that the appellant should be placed on a section 20(1)(a) bond for the
Commonwealth offence and the operational period for the State offences should be extended.
He conceded that the appellant’s criminal history and offending on parole are relevant
considerations to the imposition of penalty. 35
In my view, there is no substance in grounds 1 and 5, notwithstanding that the magistrate said
that:
Other than your plea today, I have only your say so and no other demonstration of 40
remorse.
I am satisfied that he, in fact, dealt appropriately with the appellant’s cooperation with police
and his early plea of guilty. I should record, though, that a plea of guilty is, in fact, by itself a
demonstration of remorse. Earlier his Honour referred to the fact that the appellant took part 45
in a record of interview with police and made admissions. His Honour also said:
That timely plea of guilty saves the taxpayers the costs of any further proceedings from
today. It shows that you’ve taken personal responsibility for committing this crime. It
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also saves the witnesses and victims the necessity of having to come to court to give
evidence against you and to face you in court. So that, in particular, is also a very
great saving and a benefit to you in sentence.
On the other hand, I think there is substance in the other grounds relied upon by Mr McNab. 5
The appellant was not charged with using a carriage service to make a threat to kill, an
offence against section 474.15(1) of the Commonwealth Criminal Code. The maximum
sentence for that offence is imprisonment for 10 years.
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The appellant was, in fact, charged with using the telephone to menace, harass or cause
offence to Ms Winwood. In relation to this aspect, the magistrate said:
You’ve made the remark, you’ve made the threat and everyone is now left guessing. It’s
all very well for you to say, “It was just a joke.” What credibility have you got with 15
your history of fraud and dishonesty?
Later his Honour said:
A threat to kill is a threat to kill. It doesn’t really matter whether you were threatening 20
to bomb someone or shoot them or to stab them, or whether you leave them guessing
how you’re going to go about it.
After referring to the facts of a comparative decision of Horne, his Honour said:
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Well, that’s not even as serious as a threat to kill.
A little later his Honour said:
The submission that you can’t make good on your threat because you have no wife in 30
Australia I find totally irrelevant.
I think it likely that the magistrate, in fact, sentenced the appellant for conduct extending
beyond what is involved in the offence with which he was charged. In the present case the
appellant did not threaten anyone. He said only that he was going to Cairns to arrange for a 35
bikie to kill his wife.
As to the appellant’s criminal history, the Magistrate referred to it in detail, described it as a
disgrace, and said:
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That history shows that you have little regard for others and for their personal safety
and welfare, for their physical welfare, or for their financial welfare. And those
matters are highly relevant here today.
The sex offences in Victoria involved sexual activity with and without penetration of a 45
female child under 16. And it is difficult to see that these were what his Honour was
referring to when he referred to the personal safety and welfare, and physical welfare of
others. Apart from these offences, the appellant’s criminal history consists almost entirely of
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offences of dishonesty. In these circumstances I think the Magistrate, with respect, in all
probability has inadvertently overvalued or misrepresented the accused’s criminal history.
As to the ground relating to domestic violence, the Magistrate said:
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I have been advised here in court today and on the last occasion that you have no ex-
wives living in Australia. I hardly think that matters. In this day and age where the
world has virtually shrunk in size and it is so easy for people to do things on the other
side of the globe with almost an instant’s notice, I hardly think that matters. And if
your ex-wives learned or have learned about this threat, they would be quite entitled to 10
feel very concerned.
You’ve heard me remark earlier today that in this country alone it is a national
disgrace that on average, from 500 to 600 Australian women a year are killed by their
partners and ex-partners. This is a verified statistic published recently by the 15
Australian Institute of Criminology. You are just such a person: an ex-partner of two
women who may come to learn of this ridiculous threat. If nothing further is done
about men behaving badly to women in this country, then it means over the next decade,
if nothing different is done to what we’re doing now, in the next decade 600 Australian
women will be dead at the hands of their partners and ex-partners. You might compare 20
that to the risk of six Australian soldiers being killed in Iraq in the next 10 years. You
might compare that to the risk of there being 600 terrorist attacks on Australian soil in
the next 10 years. But there will be 600 women dead.
This was not a case of domestic violence. And the Magistrate’s comments were, with 25
respect, completely irrelevant and inappropriate, and likely to have influenced his sentencing
discretion. This ground has therefore been made out. A schedule of what was said to be
comparative decisions was placed before the Magistrate. His Honour didn’t find the schedule
particularly helpful but did refer to some decisions. They were clearly different from the
present. Brelsford involved a threat to kill amongst other threats. Unsworth and Kaufer also 30
involved a threat to kill. Sawtell involved threats to cause serious harm and a maximum
penalty of imprisonment for seven years and other threats for which the defendant was
sentenced to eight months imprisonment with immediate release. Horne involved charges of
the type faced by the appellant and sentences of probation, community service and
imprisonment with immediate release. Wench involved threats to kill by a defendant with an 35
old and irrelevant criminal history. He was sentenced to four months imprisonment with
immediate release.
Mr McNab referred me to a number of other decisions. These included Smedley, where
phone threats were made directly to the complainant and the young, first offender was placed
on a section 19B bond; McKieran, where a phone threat was made to the complainant to hurt 40
her children, and the defendant was placed on a section 20(1)(a) bond; Dane, where the
defendant phoned her bank manager and threatened to “blow you fucking up, you fuckers”
and was fined; Des Met, where threats where made to separate persons and the defendant was
also placed on a section 20(1)(a) bond; and Smith, District Court, Warwick, 8th of November
2007 where a phone threat to attack nurses at a hospital was made to hospital staff member, 45
and the defendant was sentenced to six months imprisonment with immediate release.
Ms Deane for the Commonwealth referred to Conias, where the threat was made to the
complainant; Haberkorn, where 617 calls were made to 12 complainants threatening them,
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and the defendant had previously been sentenced for similar offences; Casey, where threats
were made to two separate complainants; Renella, where threats were made to the
complainant and his family; Worth, where a threat was made to a police officer’s life, and
Russell, where threats were made to harm Centrelink staff.
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None of these decisions are comparable to the present case. And none support a sentence
such as was imposed by the Magistrate. Had this been the only complaint, I would have
concluded that this was by itself sufficient to indicate error in the exercise of the sentencing
discretion by implication from the length of the sentence.
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Generally, the Magistrate took into account the non-declarable presentence custody as being
effectively attributable to the Commonwealth offence, the absence of any like offending on
the appellant’s criminal history, and the fact that he was on parole and subject to a suspended
sentence when he committed the offence.
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State Offences
In finding that it would not be unjust to order the appellant to serve the whole of the
suspended imprisonment, the Magistrate curiously said he had regard to the nature of the
offences for which the suspended imprisonment was imposed and the nature of the 20
Commonwealth offence. There is no similarity between the offences, in fact there is a clear
difference between them and this does not appear to have been recognised or sufficiently
recognised. The Commonwealth offence is not though a trivial offence.
Further, the Magistrate appears to have overlooked the requirement to have regard to the 25
relative length of any period of good behaviour during the operational period, section
147(3)(v)(A) of the Penalties and Sentences Act. Here, the Commonwealth offence was
committed about 10 months into the 12 months operational period of the suspended
imprisonment. In Smith already referred to, the judge did not activate the entire 18 months
suspended imprisonment given that the defendant had done more than half the operational 30
period without committing an offence. His Honour activated half the sentence and ordered
immediate parole which was consistent with imprisonment with immediate release for the
Commonwealth offence.
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In my view, taking account of the circumstances of the offence and its commission whilst the
appellant was on parole and subject to a suspended sentence of imprisonment, and having
regard to the features of the case and the offender already referred to, no other sentence than
imprisonment is appropriate in all of the circumstances. To this extent, I agree with the 40
Magistrate.
In my view, the present Commonwealth offence is not as serious as Smith, no direct threat
having been made to anyone. But on the other hand, whilst it was also committed when the
defendant was subject to a suspended sentence of imprisonment, he was not also on parole at 45
the time. It should though be recognised that the appellant is presently suffering the
consequences of offending whilst on parole, his parole having been revoked by reason of the
commission of the Commonwealth offence.
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For the State offences, I consider for the reasons given that it would be unjust to order the
appellant to serve the whole of the suspended imprisonment. The Commonwealth offence
bears no similarity to the reporting offences. And he’d almost completed the operational
period. Offending whilst subject to a suspended sentence is not though to be regarded as risk 5
free.
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HIS HONOUR: For the reasons I have given I allow the appeal in respect of both sentences. 10
I set aside the sentences imposed by the Magistrate and in lieu thereof the following
sentences will be substituted therefor. And these sentences take into account that the
appellant has, in fact, been in custody for the Commonwealth and State offences from the 27th
October 2014 until the 27th of January 2015, along with other sentences.
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For the Commonwealth offence he will be sentenced to imprisonment for one month
commencing today, with immediate release upon entering into a reconnaissance in the sum of
$200 to be of good behaviour for 12 months. For the State offences I order that he serve,
commencing on the 27th of October 2014, one month of the four months suspended
imprisonment imposed in the Ipswich Magistrates Court on the 10th of December 2013 for 20
the offences of failing to report. That sentence is to be served concurrently with other
sentences he has been serving.
The effect of these substituted sentences is that the appellant is not now liable to serve any
more time in prison for the Commonwealth and the State offences. So does that cover 25
everything now?
MS DEANE: Thank you, your Honour.
MR WHITBREAD: Thank you, your Honour. 30
HIS HONOUR: All right. Thank you for your assistance.
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Official source: https://www.sclqld.org.au/caselaw/QDC/2015/061