BD [2014] QCAT 597
CITATION: BD [2014] QCAT 597
PARTIES: BD
APPLICATION NUMBER: GAA7401-14; GAA7402-14
MATTER TYPE: Guardianship and administration matters for
adults
HEARING DATE: 22 September 2014
HEARD AT: Hervey Bay
DECISION OF: Member Milburn
DELIVERED ON: 9 November 2014
DELIVERED AT: Hervey Bay
ORDERS MADE: GUARDIANSHIP
1. GS is appointed as guardian for BD for
decisions about the following matters;
(a) Accommodation
(b) Health Care
(c) Provision of Services.
2. This appointment remains current until
further order of the Tribunal. The
appointment is reviewable and is to be
reviewed in five (5) years.
ADMINISTRATION
3. The Public Trustee of Queensland is
appointed as administrator for BD for all
financial matters.
4. The Tribunal dispenses with the
requirement for the administrator to
provide a financial management plan.
5. The Tribunal directs the administrator to
provide accounts to the Tribunal when
requested.
6. This appointment remains current until
further order of the Tribunal. The
appointment is reviewable and is to be
reviewed in five (5) years.
CATCHWORDS: Guardianship and Administration – conflict
between siblings – concurrent interstate orders
Guardianship and Administration Act 2000 s 5,
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s 14(2)
APPEARANCES and REPRESENTATION (if any):
GS
BG
BM
Sunita Hora (Acting Principal Guardian for the Public Guardian, New South
Wales)
REASONS FOR DECISION
[1] This case deals with the adult, 60-year-old, BD. BD has a severe
intellectual disability and has been cared for all of her life. She was the
subject of a guardianship order made by the New South Wales Civil and
Administrative Tribunal dated 24 February 2014.
[2] The Public Guardian in New South Wales was her appointed guardian.
The NSW Public Guardian was appointed primarily because of conflict
between two of BD's siblings, brother BG, who resides in New South
Wales, and sister GS who resides in Queensland. In expressing the
reasons for the tribunal decision, Senior Member Hughes (presiding
member) said at page 5:
The difficulties outlined in the reasons for decision of the Tribunal on
2 September 2013 in respect of the appointment of either GS (de-identified)
or BG (de-identified) as BD’s guardian (de-identified) continue to apply.
Neither sibling could agree or accept the others decision in relation to their
sister’s accommodation. Their conflict over this issue is likely to adversely
impact upon BD which would not be in her best interests. Accordingly, the
Tribunal decided that the Public Guardian should continue to be appointed
as guardian. A guardianship order on review can be made for up to three
years from the date on which it is made. The Tribunal decided to make an
order for a 12 month period. The Tribunal determined the order should not
be reviewable as the decisions to be made by the Public Guardian are in
respect of BD’s accommodation and are likely to be finalised within this
timeframe.
[3] BD has been living in supported accommodation in New South Wales for
many years. The Public Guardian made a decision to continue with this
long-standing arrangement. Given the comments of the learned Senior
Member the purpose of making the twelve-month guardianship order had
been satisfied.
[4] The Public Guardian agreed to allow GS to take BD to Queensland for a
holiday. GS, who had long fought for guardianship, brought her sister to
her home. Not long after arrival in Queensland GS advised the Public
Guardian that she would not return her sister to New South Wales.
[5] The Public Guardian took action. Ms Sunita Hora, Acting Principal
Guardian for the Public Guardian in New South Wales, sought assistance
in Queensland. Ms Hora applied for the recognition of the NCAT order in
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Queensland. The guardianship order was indeed, as sought, recognised
by the Queensland Civil and Administrative Tribunal on 3 June 2014.
In her application Ms Hora identified a number of concerns. She said that:
BD (de-identified) is currently residing in her sister's home, which she has
only known for 2 weeks. She is living on a rural property with limited
access to services. It is unclear if her sister is able to cope with her care
needs without support services, 24 hours a day, on a long-term basis.
In addition, BD is unprepared for this change and may be distressed if the
arrangement is allowed to continue. She is also experiencing symptoms of
early dementia. It is unclear if her care needs are likely to change in the
near future. BD has been living in supported accommodation in Sydney for
approximately 13 years. She attends a day program once a week and
works in supported employment 2 days a week. The Public Guardian
consented to a holiday with her sister GS at her home in Netherby for
2 weeks. GS has refused to allow her to return. BD is at risk of losing her
accommodation and services if she does not return. The Public Guardian
may be required to make an accommodation decision or request the
assistance of the Queensland police force or ambulance service to remove
BD from GS's home and assist in bringing her back to Sydney.
[6] Following this, GS brought her own application for appointment of a
guardian and appointment of an administrator before the Queensland Civil
and Administrative Tribunal. It is her applications which are the subject of
these proceedings.
[7] In proceedings of this nature the tribunal commences proceedings
presuming the adult in question does have capacity to make decisions.
That presumption can be rebutted. In this case I note the health
professional report prepared by Doctor Richard Sanders, General
Practitioner, dated 24 May 2013 where he finds that BD has autism
intellectual disability, which he categorised as severe. No one appearing
before the tribunal suggested that this report was incorrect. I had the
benefit of witnessing BD during the hearing. I accept the conclusions
contained within the medical report and these were supported by all
relevant parties who appeared at the hearing. I determine that BD is not
capable of understanding the nature and effect of decisions about matters,
is not able to freely and voluntarily make decisions about matters and is
not able to communicate any decisions in a meaningful way. As a result
I find that the presumption of capacity for both personal matters and
financial matters is rebutted.
[8] I find that there is a need for decision in relation to matters pertaining to
personal matters and financial matters. Most obviously the concerns
before the tribunal relate to where BD is to reside. I find that there is a
need for decision in relation to matters involving BD. I find that without
appointment her needs will not adequately be met or her interests
adequately protected.
[9] In many ways my finding that BD does lack capacity and that there is a
need for the appointment of a guardian and administrator are preliminary
issues which were not in contest. The real issue in this case deals with
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the question of the appropriateness of a proposed appointee.
The applicant, GS nominates herself as the proposed appointee as both
guardian and administrator.
[10] The Public Guardian in New South Wales acknowledges the need for an
appointment in Queensland. Ms Sunita Hora, who appeared for the Public
Guardian in New South Wales, proposed the appointment of the Public
Guardian in Queensland. BG supported this position. GS was not
opposed to the appointment of the Public Guardian in Queensland.
Her application, however, was for appointment of herself. In support of
GS' position were her brothers BR and GP.
[11] In deciding whether a person is appropriate for appointment as a guardian
or administrator for an adult, the tribunal must consider a number of
factors. The tribunal must consider matters stated in section 15 of
Guardianship and Administration Act 2000 (Qld). In coming to my
decision I do consider those factors. I also consider the general principles
as stated in the Act. I consider the extent to which the adult and the
person’s personal interests are likely to conflict. Importantly, I consider
whether the adult and the person, in this case GS, are compatible.
I consider whether the person would be available and accessible to the
adult. I consider the person’s appropriateness and competence to
perform functions and exercise powers under an appointment order.
In considering carefully each one of these provisions I have no doubt that
the appropriate appointee is the applicant, GS. I appreciate that a finding
to this effect puts the order in Queensland potentially in conflict with the
order in New South Wales. The orders can coexist. The appointee in
Queensland, GS can, at least in theory, liaise with the appointee in
New South Wales, the Public Guardian, represented in effect, at least at
the time of the hearing, by Ms Sunita Hora. That said, I do note the
comment made by Ms Hora in her report to this tribunal1 where, at page 3,
she says ‘the Public Guardian in NSW is unable to make a decision from
another state’. I also note that the Guardianship Order made in New
South Wales was for a period of only 12 months from 24 February 2014.
[12] I make my finding because I have concluded that GS provides exemplary
support for her sister BD. I have considered a number of witnesses in this
regard. For ease of determination I choose to outline the evidence given
by various witnesses in written form in the following summary and
specifically state that I take into account and accept the various
statements which have been made. I take into account the following
evidence:
Psychologist’s report, Kay Morgan, psychologist, dated 5 September 2014:
BD was assessed on 13 August 2014 in GS's company
GS identified herself as BD's younger sister and carer
1 Report to QCAT prepared by Ms Sunita Hora, Acting Principal Guardian for the Public
Guardian NSW, dated 19 September 2014.
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from my observations on the information available to me BD has a
diagnosis of autism spectrum disorder with associated expressive
language disorder
BD is almost completely non-verbal – this is in direct contrast with the
descriptions I have read from people who knew her when BD was
living with her mother – they spoke of an aware lady who was able to
communicate verbally in an effective manner
during the times I observed BD, she had a very limited vocabulary but
was able to let her wishes be known nonverbally
from the information presented, there seems to have been a marked
decrease in BD's lifestyle and communication ability after leaving her
mother's care in 2001
I note that GS has made attempts to permanently care for her sister
over the intervening years, without success
GS arranged for BD to visit and she has been in this area for about
3 months
Recommendations:
I am of the opinion that the services accessed by GS will significantly
improve BD's quality of life and ability to communicate more
effectively
I am of the opinion that returning BD to her former accommodation will
be a detrimental step for her
I am very impressed by GS's care and concern for BD, and am very
aware of the strong bond between GS and BD
my recommendation is that BD be allowed to remain in the care of GS
and an appropriate plan to be put in place just in case GS is unable to
care for her
Certificate from Jeni Wallace, podiatry assistant, Blue Care Fraser Coast
Allied Health Services, dated 21 August 2014:
BD was referred to the Fraser Coast Allied Health Podiatry Service on
20 May 2014
BD commenced podiatry services on 11 July 2014 for ongoing
general foot care and maintenance on a 6 – 8 weekly basis
Medical report from Doctor Ahmed Said Elsedfy, General Practitioner, Jema
Clinic, Lennox Street Maryborough, dated 15 August 2014:
BD is a patient of Jema Clinic since 10th of May 2014
I found her clean and tidy all the time whenever she comes to the
clinic
I also found that she is doing well as her carer [sister] is taking good
care of her and making sure that medication is given as advised
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Report from Cameron Hollebone, physiotherapist, dated 14 August 2014:
BD requires physiotherapy support to help improve her mobility,
decrease the risk of falls and assist with weight loss
BD was happy to take any exercises by copying the movements being
completed by myself and GS
with her habitual nature, a different approach to improve her mobility
and exercises to assist with weight loss is required
Medical report from Doctor Edward Ogiji, General Practitioner, Jema Clinic,
Lennox Street Maryborough, dated 19 August 2014:
GS is physically and mentally fit to look after her sister BD
Report from Caitlin Rogash, accredited practising dietitian, Blue Care
Fraser Coast Allied Health Services, dated 12 August 2014:
BD requires support as she currently has a BMI of over 33 kg/M2
which places her in the Obese I category
this indicates a moderate risk of co-morbidities and if she continues to
gain weight she will soon be at severe risk with potential long-term
health issues
BD was initially assessed in July where the client’s sister, GS,
reported that BD had lost 4 kg in the 6 weeks that she had been
staying with her
GS requested additional information for further strategies to assist BD
with losing weight
the physiotherapist provided exercises for BD to complete to improve
mobility and assist with weight loss
one month later review assessment was completed and unfortunately
during this time BD was unable to lose any weight although some of
the strategies had been successfully implemented
Communication assessment report by Meghan Campbell, speech
pathologist, Blue Care Allied Health Team Blue Care, dated 24 June 2014:
Thank you for bringing BD all the way to Hervey Bay to meet me
Recommendation:
speech pathology program that aims to increase BD's use of words
Report from Emma Smith, occupational therapist, Blue Care Fraser Coast
Allied Health Services, dated 11 June 2014:
I attended a home assessment to review BD’s safety in her home
environment with BD, GS and myself present
GS is BD’s full-time carer and provides assistance with all activities of
daily living, including showering, meal preparation, community access
and domestics
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a number of matters were identified as potential issues on the day of
the home assessment
a number of recommendations were made to ensure BD remains safe
at home
Certificate from Sharyn Wilson, team leader Blue Care Maryborough respite
services, dated 18 July 2014:
I am writing to confirm that BD attends our day respite centre two
times a week to improve her independent living skills and social
interaction
Letter from Nicholas Advaney, Spec Savers optometrists, Maryborough,
dated 20 June 2014 addressed to Doctor:
BD attended for routine examination recently with her sister
Letter/report from Fiona Brown, aged and disability carer, dated 4 August
2014:
I have developed a firm friendship with GS and BD over the years
GS and BD are my lunch/dinner guests twice each week
I have been impressed with the progress BD has made in her vocal
and interpersonal relationship skills since her arrival in May 2014
BD is animated and responsive after each exciting, activity filled,
socially-interactive experience
BD decides on her activity choices
BD is visibly blossoming and responding with pleasure to her new
Queensland lifestyle
Letter from Marion Carter, friend of GS, undated:
I have been a friend of GS for almost 14 years
I have always admired and respected how GS has had her sister BD's
welfare and happiness at heart
GS called to the home where BD lived on a weekly basis to check
BD has blossomed since arriving to stay with GS
I am able to backup and support GS with BD if need be
I am a trained enrolled nurse and have worked in aged care and
areas of rehabilitation and dementia for 40 years and I am qualified
should any assistance be required
Letter from GP, eldest brother of BG, BR, GS and BD, dated 18 July 2013:
I am writing this letter in support of my sisters BD and GS
BD has suffered from autism since a very young age
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Mum spent all her life caring for her at home never wanting her to
enter a "home"
this situation continued until my mother had to enter a home herself
due to ill health and old age and she passed away
this situation was all handled by BG
BG has no personal face-to-face contact that BD and has very little
communication regarding her health and well-being
I believe that BD would be far happier in GS's home
I cannot understand BG's logic of not agreeing to BD being looked
after by her sister GS
I couldn't think of a more capable person to look after BD than her
sister GS
Letters from BR, youngest brother of the adult, undated:
I am in favour of BD living with my sister GS in Queensland
she has been in the home long enough
I don't know why (brother) BG has a problem with this as they don't
want BD living at their house
in the event of my sister GS becoming unable to provide housing and
care for our sister, BD, I, BR, agree to provide accommodation and
care for our sister BD
Letter from Patricia Davies, undated:
I facilitate an Autism/Asperger’s support group at (town held) District
Community Centre on a regular basis
GS attends with her adult sister BD
GS comes to source information from the support group to help her to
give BD a happy and productive life
GS receives help and support at our meetings and learns what
activities are available.
[13] I have placed a great deal of weight on the evidence of Ms Kay Morgan,
psychologist. I accept her recommendations and findings. I accept that
returning BD to her former accommodation would be a detrimental step for
her. I accept the recommendation that BD should be allowed to remain in
the care of GS.
[14] The evidence to which I have referred above clearly demonstrates that
circumstances have changed very considerably since the NCAT order was
made in February 2014. The concerns that were raised by the learned
Senior Member2 have been allayed as a result of the actions of GS.
The concerns that were raised by Ms Sunita Hora in her application for
recognition of the New South Wales order have also been put to rest as
2 See paragraph [2] of this decision.
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result of the actions of GS. Previously there was uncertainty as to how BD
would cope with changed surroundings in Queensland. These concerns
have been addressed. Any questions as to whether GS might be a
suitable guardian have been answered. Clearly she is. Concerns as to
whether GS would have the capacity to appropriately care for her sister on
a 24-hour basis have been answered. She is capable of doing so.
The decision of the tribunal in this instance might appear to be in conflict
with the decision of NCAT. I do not believe that it is. The decision of this
tribunal reflects information and circumstances that did not exist when the
NCAT Decision was made.
[15] An adult with impaired capacity has a right to adequate and appropriate
support for decision-making3. I find GS to be an appropriate and
competent appointee. I had considered appointment of the (Queensland)
Public Guardian however I find GS a better choice and in any event the
tribunal may appoint the Public Guardian as guardian for a matter only if
there is no other appropriate person available for appointment for the
matter4. I find support for this proposition from the report5 provided to the
tribunal by the Public Guardian in New South Wales, where the following
statement was made at page 2:
The Public Guardian would like a family home environment for BD, in
keeping with the Guardianship Principle, which states “the importance of
preserving the family relationships and the cultural and linguistic
environment of such persons should be recognized”. Living in a family
home would also be a less restrictive option.
[16] I am confident that GS will consult relevant stakeholders, and in particular
her siblings, in relation to decisions involving her sister. With the
resolution of the issue of guardianship the former problems associated
with a difference of opinion between GS and Mr BG can now be put to one
side.
[17] I am informed that an administration order was made by NCAT in
July 2014 appointing the Public Trustee New South Wales. I believe it is
appropriate to have the Public Trustee deal with financial issues but that
the Public Trustee of Queensland should share in or perhaps takeover
control. I therefore do make an order appointing the Public Trustee of
Queensland as administrator. I expect that the respective officers in
Queensland and New South Wales will communicate in relation to these
matters. It is a matter for the Public Trustee New South Wales to consider
bringing the matter back before NCAT if it chooses to do so. I hope that it
does; with a view to seeking to vacate the existing New South Wales
administration order.
[18] I do take into account that GS did act contrary to the authority of the
New South Wales Public Guardian and has frustrated the decision-making
3 Guardianship and Administration Act 2000 s 5.
4 Guardianship and Administration Act 2000 s 14(2).
5 Report to QCAT prepared by Ms Sunita Hora, Acting Principal Guardian for the Public
Guardian NSW, dated 19 September 2014.
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process of the Public Guardian. This is a factor to consider but those
factors which are set out in the legislation must be considered in priority.
[19] I make the following Orders:
GUARDIANSHIP
1. GS is appointed as guardian for BD for decisions about the following
matters;
(a) Accommodation
(b) Health Care
(c) Provision of Services
2. This appointment remains current until further order of the Tribunal.
The appointment is reviewable and is to be reviewed in five (5) years.
ADMINISTRATION
3. The Public Trustee of Queensland is appointed as administrator for
BD for all financial matters.
4. The Tribunal dispenses with the requirement for the administrator to
provide a financial management plan.
5. The Tribunal directs the administrator to provide accounts to the
Tribunal when requested.
6. This appointment remains current until further order of the Tribunal.
The appointment is reviewable and is to be reviewed in five (5) years.
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Official source: https://www.sclqld.org.au/caselaw/QCAT/2014/597