ABC v Commissioner for Children and Young People and Child Guardian [2013] QCAT 476
CITATION: ABC v Commissioner for Children and Young
People and Child Guardian [2013] QCAT 476
PARTIES: ABC
(Applicant)
v
Commissioner for Children and Young People
and Child Guardian
(Respondent)
APPLICATION NUMBER: CML035-13
MATTER TYPE: Childrens matters
HEARING DATE: 23 and 24 May 2013
HEARD AT: Brisbane
DECISION OF: Pam Goodman, Presiding Member
Graham Quinlivan, Member
DELIVERED ON: 26 August 2013
DELIVERED AT: Brisbane
ORDERS MADE: 1. The decision of the Commissioner for
Children and Young People and Child
Guardian made on 6 February 2013 to
issue a negative notice and cancel
ABC’s blue card is confirmed.
2. Publication of ABC’s name and the
names, addresses and schools of the
students referred to in this proceeding is
prohibited.
CATCHWORDS: Where former registered teacher seeks Blue
Card to teach music privately – where
inappropriate relationships with students –
whether an exceptional case
APPEARANCES and REPRESENTATION:
APPLICANT: Mr Van Grinsven, instructed by Quinlan, Miller
and Treston
RESPONDENT: Represented by Mr Capper
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REASONS FOR DECISION
[1] We are reviewing the Commissioner’s decision to cancel ABC’s blue card.
ABC needs a blue card if he is to resume his career as a music teacher.
[2] QCAT has previously prohibited ABC from being registered as a teacher
because of the relationships he formed with students.1
[3] ABC is an accomplished musician and an experienced music teacher. He
was registered as a teacher on 1 August 1990, and taught for many years
in the state school system. He resigned in 2008 after concerns were
raised about his conduct.
[4] Between 2001 and 2007 ABC formed inappropriate and intense
relationships with three teenage students. The only independent evidence
of communications between ABC and his students is contained in three
letters sent by ABC to a student in 2001. Transcriptions of the letters, so
far as they are legible, are attached to this decision.
[5] The letters are overly familiar. For example, ABC writes to his student that
he had only had two hours sleep one night but “I didn’t lie awake worrying
about things between you and I. I just lay there thinking wonderful things
about you.” In another letter he writes “Every so often, I completely forget
who I am and I try to dictate / dominate your time. Forgive me, please.”
[6] The letters, along with ABC’s subsequent conduct, raise doubts as to
whether he properly understands his role and responsibilities when placed
in a position of trust and authority over children.
ABC ACTIONS
[7] In considering ABC’s actions we accept:
a) music teachers will, by the nature of their job, spend time with students
outside of the classroom and outside of school hours (for rehearsals,
performances, private lessons etc);
b) in 2001 – 2007 it was unclear whether any (or how much) text or email
communication between teachers and students was acceptable.
[8] We accept the view of all parties that ABC’s actions were inappropriate.
STUDENT R - 2001
[9] R was a year 10 student at ABC’s school. They formed a close
relationship and exchanged letters. The exchange continued despite R’s
mother asking ABC to stop. Transcriptions of three undated letters written
by ABC to R are attached to this decision. Only words which appear
clearly have been transcribed. ABC denies drawing the love hearts that
1 Queensland College of Teachers v Teacher ABC [2012] QCAT 56.
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appear on two of the letters. The copies we have are of poor quality and
we cannot determine who drew the hearts.
[10] ABC acknowledges that the letters were highly inappropriate. He states
that the style and language he used reflected the style and language R
used in her letters to him. ABC states he intended to encourage R to
pursue her interest in music, despite opposition from family members.
ABC says he was communicating as a family friend and private teacher. In
retrospect, ABC describes the content of the letters as “horrible”, saying “I
can’t excuse it”.
[11] ABC describes himself as a supportive person who was able to listen to R
and allow R to communicate her feelings to him. ABC denied “grooming”
R, or that he held any intention of forming a physical relationship with her,
noting that the relationship that he had with R was the same as he had
with any number of other students.
[12] ABC states that after the relationship was brought to the attention of his
Principal, he received a formal caution. R stayed at the school and
completed year 12 studies. ABC states that in talking with R years later he
formed the view that she was embarrassed by the communications
between them, but that she bore him no ill will and told him that the
communications had not had an adverse effect on her.
STUDENT S
[13] In 2006, while S was in year 10 and was taught by him, ABC sent her over
1200 text messages over a period of 3 - 4 months. Texts were sent during
school hours, on weekends and holidays, while they were travelling to an
event on the same bus, and late at night.
[14] There is no independent evidence as to the content of the messages
exchanged between ABC and S. ABC states that:
a) the contents of the texts were not “personal” in the way that the letters
he wrote to R were, and anything said in the texts was “professional”,
b) any texts he sent were in response to a text he had received from S,
c) S had a number of personal issues, including the death of a family
member, living away from home and boyfriend issues,
d) he referred her to the guidance officer / chaplain a number of times,
and
e) in hindsight, he made a bad decision in communicating with S in that
manner.
[15] Given the number of texts, and the times the texts were sent, we find that
they were not “professional”. The communication by ABC, even if
responding to contact from S, was overwhelming and inappropriate. ABC
has himself acknowledged that his behaviour was inappropriate, although,
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as before, he denies “grooming” the student with an intention to form a
sexual relationship.
STUDENT K
[16] ABC advised:
a) Shortly before finishing year 12, K told him she was struggling with the
workload and with personal problems, and he assisted her with
assignments,
b) He communicated with K via text messaging and MSN (on his
computer). Prior to K’s graduation the messages that he sent were
“professional”, and he denies he was “grooming” her.
c) Around graduation, K sent him some photos of herself in her formal
gown.
d) In approximately December 2006 (shortly after K’s graduation) they
began to meet for lunch and their relationship became sexual in late
December / early January. At the time, he did not think about whether
the relationship was appropriate.
e) The relationship ended around late January, primarily because they
were meeting at lunch time and that would not be possible once ABC
returned to teach in the new school year.
f) When he looks back on the relationship, he thinks “what was I
thinking?” He was flattered by her attention in a personally unhappy
time. He had nothing to do (over the school holiday period when he
was living alone having recently separated from his wife) and allowed
himself to “get caught up” in a relationship with K.
g) He now deeply regrets the relationship and finds it embarrassing. He is
not sure if there had been any detrimental effect on K, but regretted the
impact on his life and career. He acknowledges that he did the wrong
thing, acting in a way that was inappropriate and unprofessional.
[17] We have before us a photocopied page of handwritten notes which are
said to be copies of texts exchanged between ABC and K. ABC denies
receiving or sending the texts. The messages contain a term of affection
which ABC says he “may have” called K. On balance, we find that it would
be unsafe to rely on the notes as an accurate record and they have not
factored into our decision.
[18] It is clear that ABC’s contact with S reduced at about the same time that
his contact with K increased. ABC could not recall why or how his intense
level of communication with S reduced.
[19] While there was regular text messaging between ABC and K, we cannot
determine the frequency or intensity of contact between them as no
records are available of their communication via computer. ABC recalled
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that it felt like K was instigating a lot of contact with him and he was going
along with it.
SHOULD WE GRANT A BLUE CARD?
[20] We must grant ABC a blue card unless we are satisfied that this is an
exceptional case in which it would not be in the best interests of children
to do so.2 In making our decision, the welfare and best interests of children
are paramount3, as is their protection from harm and promotion of their
wellbeing.4 We have considered the factors described in the legislation5
and other relevant matters that are particular to this case.6
[21] In assessing whether this is an exceptional case, we have considered all
the evidence before us. We have weighed up the apparent risk factors as
against the protective factors, including ABC’s level of insight into his
behaviour.
PROTECTIVE FACTORS
[22] In 2008 ABC resigned his position with Education Queensland but
retained his blue card. After moving away from teaching for some time, he
returned to teach privately, through a sub-contract arrangement, and then
worked in the private school system.
[23] From 2009 to 2011 ABC worked as a music teacher in a private school.
His colleagues who provided evidence regard him as a professional and
gifted teacher who took proactive steps to ensure that his communications
with his students were appropriate and transparent: contact with students
was limited to his school email address, and he primarily corresponded
with parents only. He arranged to teach in a room on a corridor with a
large window and generally left the curtains, blinds and door open when
teaching, particularly with an individual student. He did not teach privately
from his home.
[24] On 28 February 2013 the Principal of the school wrote to ABC stating
“From my knowledge you have worked positively and respectfully with all
students with whom there has been contact. There has been no indication
of preferential treatment of any student, nor has there been any concern
raised by a staff member, student, or parent, during you employ”.
[25] There is no evidence that ABC has acted inappropriately since early 2007.
[26] ABC has formed a long term relationship (approximately 5 years) with his
current partner. ABC states that she knows all the details of his history.
2 CCYPCG Act, s 221.
3 CCYPCG Act, s S5,6.
4 CCYPCG Act, s 155.
5 CCYPCG Act, s 226.
6 CCYPCG v Lister (No 2) [2011] QCATA 87.
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[27] ABC has expressed remorse and regret over his behaviour and indicated
that he will not act in such a way again.
[28] In October 2008 ABC completed an online Code of Conduct training,
covering Student Protection.
[29] On 11 April 2013 Professor Barry Nurcombe, psychiatrist, evaluated ABC.
Professor Nurcombe finds no evidence of a psychiatric disorder - no active
mental illness or personality deviation.
[30] Professor Nurcombe states that in 2006 (the time of his relationship with
K) ABC was naive and emotionally vulnerable. He finds that ABC has paid
a high price for his actions and has had a great deal of time to reflect on
them. He finds there is a low risk that ABC will, in the future, transgress
the ethical standards embodied in the Education (Queensland College of
Teachers) Act 2005.
RISK FACTORS
[31] ABC was a teacher of some experience when the first of these incidents
occurred. Despite being disciplined for his actions, he went on to form
intense personal relationships with two more children that he taught.
[32] ABC indicated that at the time he was corresponding or in a relationship
with the students or former student he did not think the relationships were
inappropriate, although it did “cross his mind” that the sexual relationship
was inappropriate. He maintains that the contents of the letters to student
R were “not inappropriate per se”.
[33] The three students were all (by his account) teenagers experiencing
difficulties in terms of isolation from their families and other personal
issues and so were in vulnerable positions. ABC’S actions have breached
the trust afforded him as a teacher.
[34] The blue card scheme is much less regulated than the teaching profession
and essentially allows card holders to work unsupervised with children.
[35] All of the protective factors relied on by Professor Nurcombe as reducing
the risk of ABC transgressing boundaries were in place when ABC did
transgress professional boundaries (except, perhaps, ABC’s personal
relationship was not “stable” in 2006).
[36] Professor Nurcombe did not have access to the letters attached to this
decision, and so was not able to comment on them. He describes ABC’s
relationship with R as “in the context of trying to help her settle away from
home”. He notes that R wrote to ABC “speaking about her family
problems”. He records that S reached out to ABC through his mobile
phone number, texting him about her grandfather’s death and the way she
missed her family.
[37] We do not accept Professor Nurcombe’s description of the relationship
between ABC and S and R. Communications between ABC and R were
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more than about family problems. Similarly, the volume of text messages
to S points to a relationship far beyond a responsible adult offering
reasonable assistance to a child who has moved from home.
[38] The conclusions reached by Professor Nurcombe are confined to the risk
posed by ABC when working as a teacher, not if engaging with children as
the holder of a Blue Card, and the conclusions were reached without the
benefit of the entirety of the evidence before the Tribunal. We are not
satisfied that Professor Nurcombe was provided with a full and clear
picture of ABC’s relationships with his students. We do not accept that
ABC poses a “low risk” if granted a blue card.
INSIGHT
[39] ABC indicated that he regretted his actions because they were a
significant factor in his arguments with his ex-wife and because they
ultimately led to the end of his teaching career.
[40] ABC did not identify any risk to the children in his care unless prompted.
He then identified the risk that children may feel uncomfortable with the
level of trust they have with the teacher or may be placed in danger. ABC
indicated that there is a risk that students could feel there is a level of
affection or unwanted attention from their teacher.
[41] Referring to his communications with student R ABC states “The content
of the communication was in the context of friendship and thus was not
inappropriate per se, however, between a teacher and student, the
boundaries of appropriateness are different and I stupidly ignored that
fact.”
[42] ABC explained the nature of his relationships with the three students by
saying that he was responding to them. For example, he states that the
style of the letters written to R was in response to the style of
communication she used when writing to him, and that the texts messages
he sent S were only in response to messages she sent him. In explaining
his relationship with K he states “K was persistent about us having lunch
together on many occasions” and “I did not actively seek any type of
relationship with K...”.
[43] ABC indicated that he knows he has done the wrong thing and that he
deeply regrets his actions and the ramifications and the harm he could
have brought on students in his care.
[44] ABC’s reflections on potential harm were limited to the inappropriateness
of his actions as a teacher. He referred to the codes governing the
behaviour of teachers. ABC also describes himself as “a friend” to the
students and we note the Commissioner’s concern that ABC does not
identify a risk to highschool aged children when involved in intense
communications with a “friend” some 20 years older than them.
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[45] Notwithstanding Professor Nurcombe’s conclusions, we find that ABC
does not have a high level of insight into the damage his behaviour could
cause to others.
[46] We are unable to find that ABC was “grooming” the students to develop a
sexual relationship. The available letters contain no sexual content, and we
have no independent evidence of his communications with S and K. We
have no independent evidence as to conversations between ABC and his
students. ABC did in fact form a sexual relationship with K after she
graduated, and it is possible that ABC entered into friendships with the other
students as part of a plan to develop a sexual relationship with them. The
possibility of that intention is not a sufficient basis for us to find that ABC
was “grooming” the students. An exceptional case may exist even if ABC
was not grooming the students.
[47] There is no acceptable explanation for ABC’s inappropriate behaviour.
ABC himself is unable to explain why he behaved the way he did. There is
no psychiatric or medical evidence to explain why ABC acted as he did.
ABC formed inappropriate and intense relationships with three separate
teenage girls. He failed to act as a teacher (and indeed as an adult) might
be expected to act.
[48] A blue card would entitle ABC to have unsupervised and unfettered
interactions with children. We have seen that ABC has been unable to
manage those relationships in a protective way. In the absence of any
proper explanation for his past behaviour, and as ABC has not
demonstrated a high level of insight into the potential damage that can be
done to children in such a relationship, we find that this is an exceptional
case where it would not be in the best interests of children for ABC to be
granted a blue card.
[49] In reaching this decision we do not intend to provide any commentary or
guidance as to whether ABC should be reregistered as a teacher. That is
a separate matter.
NON PUBLICATION ORDER
[50] ABC asks that his name and other identifying information is not published
in this decision. The Commissioner asks that certain other information is
not published.
[51] If a non-publication order is not made7, all information before the Tribunal
may be published in this decision.
[52] As noted above, ABC has previously been involved in proceedings in this
Tribunal. On 6 February 2012, the Tribunal ordered that publication of
ABC’s name, and the names, addresses and schools of the students
referred to in its decision of 6 February 2012 was prohibited.
7 QCAT Act s 66 .
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[53] If a non-publication order is not made here, any reader of this decision will
be easily able to identify parties involved in the previous decision. That
would breach a previous decision of this Tribunal. Accordingly, it is in the
interests of justice that a non-publication order is made in the same terms
as the previous Decision.
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ANNEXURE “A”
Letter 1
Hello my BEAUTIFUL friend
How are you today I’m surprisingly good considering that I only had about 2 hours sleep last night. I
guess I should be positive it was more than the night before. Actually there is a big positive. I didn’t lie
awake worrying about things between you and I. I just lay there thinking wonderful things about you.
Probably because you are a truly wonderful person. Despite my recent suspicion about the power of
prayer I thank God daily (hourly even) for the gift of knowing you and being your friend. I truly … … .
I hope you sorted things out with your mum. You really need to keep her on your side. She is a lovely
person (normally after a drink).
I’m sitting in my classroom with my 9 Numeracy class They’ve all got work to do, but do you think that
could possibly do some of it? They’re supposed to be A or B students, but I don’t think their next tests
will take long to mark.
I had a lovely time sitting with your mum and dad and YOU last night. It really helped me …. … …,
and forget a few things. Thanks for being there for me. I hope and pray that I can be as good a friend for
you as you have for me. I hope you like my ACROSTIC for you. I know the meaning of almost all of the
words if you want to know what they mean. I have a dictionary, I’ll be happy to tell you what they mean.
They are all words to describe how wonderful you are. The …. …… …… ………….
I have a meeting with Steve in the first beak about Death by … I hope it’s fun. You’ll be there so I know
it will be good.
Do you know about Steve’s prayer meeting before school on Thursday? Is … the first one or has he ... ...
before? I’m thinking of going but I am a little unsure? What would you suggest?
Anyhow, my hand is sore because it’s a long time since I’ve written so many words.
I look forward to every time that I see you … ... ... .... I love spending time with you. Words just don’t
seem to say enough. Thank you from the bottom of my heart.
(heart drawn) Your friend
Always
Letter 2
Hello my wonderful friend
How are you? What have you been doing lately?
How was your doctor’s appointment? I (hope crossed out) pray that its not anything serious!
I’m sitting in a Rock Eisteddfod Rehearsal at the moment and there is absolutely NO reason for me to be
here.
NEW DAY
Yesterday I told my friend that I miss her when she’s not around and that I really enjoy spending time
with her. Sometimes it seems .. that … … … … … each … the … But I never feel this way for long as
I know that it is really is strong friendship we have . My friend influences me so much in what I do and
the way I think. Not many people can do that to me. She must be really amazing I look forward to any
time we can spend together to the … … … time … to see her. Is …/… what?
I find myself thinking about you. ... ... (little sleep) GRR- I feel angry now. Very little breakfast! No
lunch!! You will find Joel. If he doesn’t have your lunch, I WILL buy your lunch (no argument). If you
feel the need you can repay me but it won’t be necessary friends buy each other lunch sometimes.
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YOU MUST TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR OWN (BLANKED OUT) WELLBEING. YOU
SILLY GIRL!!!
You mean too much to me to put up with your neglecting yourself in this way. PLEASE, do something
for you!!!
Letter 3
Hello my dear friend!
...........
How are you? I hope you had a chance to rest this afternoon? You really looked like you needed a rest.
Its not very often that you show that you’re tired, but it was very visible this today. PLEASE look after
yourself!!!
Look, I’m really ... about this afternoon. Every so often, I completely forget who I am and I try to
dictate/dominate your time. Forgive me, please.
I beg your forgiveness if I’ve overstepped the mark.
I didn’t mean to upset or offend you by telling you that I miss you when you’re not around.
You are truly a beautiful person. A wonderful, wonderful musician in the making and it is my priviledge
and honour to have you as my friend. Your wisdom defies your age. Your personality is strong enough to
lift the heaviest person (thank goodness). And I pray that God continues to treat and guide you the way
he has so far.
I should consider myself so very very fortunate that you spend what time you do with me, and I should
respect the fact that you have friends of your own age, and that you should spend time with them also. I
shall continue to miss you when you are not around, and it will make me eagerly await and look forward
to the next time I see your beautiful smiling face. And any time I get to spend with you I should be
extremely thankful for.
Again my humble apologies and thank you for being so understanding. I hope that I am half as good a
friend to you ... ...
your friend always
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Official source: https://www.sclqld.org.au/caselaw/QCAT/2013/476