AJB [2013] QCAT 112
CITATION: AJB [2013] QCAT 112
PARTIES: AJB
APPLICATION NUMBER: G24484
MATTER TYPE: Guardianship and administration matters for
adults
HEARING DATE: On the papers
HEARD AT: Brisbane
DECISION OF: R Joachim, Member
DELIVERED ON: 22 February 2013
DELIVERED AT: Brisbane
ORDERS MADE: The application for costs is dismissed.
CATCHWORDS: GUARDIANSHIP – where lawyers attended at a
hearing – where application made for costs.
Queensland Civil and Administrative Tribunal
Act 2009 - sections 97 and 100
Guardianship and Administration Act 2000 –
section 136
APPEARANCES and REPRESENTATION (if any):
This matter was heard and determined on the papers pursuant to s 32 of the
Queensland Civil and Administrative Tribunal Act 2009 (QCAT Act).
REASONS FOR DECISION
[1] On 22 October 2009 AJB executed an Enduring Power of Attorney
appointing his nieces LAE and HJM as his attorneys for personal and
financial matters to make decisions jointly. This document was witnessed
by AJB’s solicitor Mr Edward Skuse.
[2] AJB is in his eighties and lives in Nursing Care in south east Queensland.
He was admitted there in April 2012.
[3] His admission was initiated following falls at home and difficulties with self
care.
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[4] AJB had discussions with Mr Skuse about how unhappy he was at the
nursing centre. Mr Skuse subsequently arranged for another solicitor
Glenys Owen to witness a revocation of his October 2009 EPA. The
revocation was executed on 30/6/2012. AJB made no further EPA.
[5] It seemed that AJB was concerned his nieces were not agreeable to his
returning home.
[6] The director of nursing was concerned about AJB’s capacity and applied
to QCAT for the appointment of a guardian and an administrator on 4 July
2012.
[7] The then former attorney LAE applied to the Tribunal on 10 July 2012 for
an order concerning the validity of an Enduring document.
[8] The Tribunal heard these applications on 2 August 2012 and determined
that the revocation was invalid because AJB did not have capacity to
revoke the October 2009 EPA. The Tribunal dismissed the guardianship
and administration applications. Directions were issued by the Tribunal to
the reinstated attorneys regarding assessments of AJB and costs of home
care if appropriate.
[9] Mr Skuse was given a notice to attend to give evidence dated 30/7/2012
under section 97 of the QCAT Act. Ms Owen to her credit, attended
voluntarily after being requested to by the Tribunal. She acknowledged
via facsimile on 30/7/2012 that her role was to give evidence.
[10] No leave was granted to either Mr Skuse or Ms Owen to represent AJB.
[11] At the conclusion of the hearing Mr Skuse sought his costs along with
those of Ms Owen.
[12] The lawyers were directed to provide submissions to the Tribunal and the
attorneys regarding costs. The attorneys were provided an opportunity to
respond.
[13] Mr Skuse and Ms Owen provided a detailed statement of costs only with
no references to the legislation.
[14] The attorneys urged the Tribunal to reject the accounts.
[15] The Tribunal sought further information from the lawyers posing 2
questions.
[16] Mr Skuse responded below:-
You pose 2 questions.
1. Why should reimbursement be ordered?
Under the Act we are entitled to allowances as professional/expert
witnesses.
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The most analogous provision to our position is that of a Doctor. The
employment allowance is the measure.
2. Who should be ordered to pay these allowances?
AJB should be the party liable. He both requested and approved our
attendance.
[17] No amount was quantified for professional/expert witness fees.
[18] The Tribunal found these answers unsatisfactory and they did not assist
the Tribunal. On 2 November 2012 the Tribunal wrote a detailed letter to
the lawyers enclosing the attorney’s submissions and directed the lawyers
to the sections of the QCAT Act under which costs orders may or may not
be made.
[19] The lawyers were invited to make any further submissions within 3 weeks.
None were received.
[20] Under section 100 of the QCAT Act, each party must bear the party’s
costs of the proceeding unless the tribunal orders otherwise. Neither Mr
Skuse nor Ms Owen were parties in the proceeding. No order for costs
could be made in their favour. As neither Mr Skuse nor Ms Owen had
leave to appear as the legal representative of AJB in the proceeding, there
is no other basis for them to recover costs from AJB for the hearing.
[21] However under section 97 of the QCAT Act persons required to attend a
hearing to give evidence are entitled to be paid fees and allowances
prescribed under regulation. Part 4 of the QCAT Regulations 2009
provides for allowances for witnesses, professional, non professional and
experts. Section 136 of the Guardianship and Administration Act 2000
modifies the QCAT Act and provides that notwithstanding the QCAT Act, a
witness is only entitled to fees and expenses if the tribunal makes an order
for payment of witness fees.
[22] Ms Owen did not attend the hearing under a section 97 notice. She gave
evidence as to her role as a certifying witness to the revocation of the
EPA. That revocation was found to be invalid due to AJB lacking capacity
to revoke that grant of power. It would be unreasonable to make an order
requiring AJB to pay Ms Owen witness fees when her actions were
directly contributory to the need for an application to be made to QCAT for
the appointment of a decision maker for AJB consequent on the
revocation of the EPA.
[23] Similar considerations are relevant to the claim for witness fees by Mr
Skuse who did attend the hearing under a section 97 notice. Mr Skuse
facilitated Ms Owen meeting with AJB to revoke the EPA. Mr Skuse’s
actions started the course of events that left AJB without an adequate
decision making regime and which resulted in the need for an application
to be made to QCAT for the appointment of a decision maker for AJB
consequent on the revocation of the EPA.
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[24] It would be unreasonable to require AJB to pay witness fees for Mr Skuse
to attend at a hearing when the tribunal expects co-operation from all
persons interested in AJB to provide information to enable the tribunal to
make final orders to meet the decision making needs of a vulnerable
person. The tribunal particularly relies on that co-operation from persons
who have professional responsibilities to act as officers of the court in the
general administration of justice.
[25] In refusing to make an order for costs there is also no entitlement for
either Mr Skuse or Ms Owen to be paid witness fees by any party in the
proceeding.
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Official source: https://www.sclqld.org.au/caselaw/QCAT/2013/112