Attorney-General for the State of Qld v Dodge [2012] QSC 277
SUPREME COURT OF QUEENSLAND
CITATION: Attorney-General for the State of Qld v Dodge [2012] QSC
277
PARTIES: ATTORNEY-GENERAL FOR THE STATE OF
QUEENSLAND
(Applicant)
v
MARTIN FRANCIS DODGE
(Respondent)
FILE NO/S: BS No 6735 of 2012
DIVISION: Trial Division
PROCEEDING: Application
ORIGINATING
COURT: Supreme Court at Brisbane
DELIVERED ON: 12 September 2012
DELIVERED AT: Brisbane
HEARING DATE: 29 August 2012
JUDGE: Ann Lyons J
ORDER: 1. That the application for an Order under Division 3
of the Dangerous Prisoners (Sexual Offenders) Act
2003 (Qld) be set for hearing at 10.00am on 17
December 2012;
2. That pursuant to s 8(2)(a) of the Dangerous
Prisoners (Sexual Offenders) Act 2003 (Qld) the
Respondent undergo examinations by two
psychiatrists named by this Honourable Court,
being Dr Michael Beech and Dr Donald Grant who
are to prepare independent reports, which are to
be prepared in accordance with s 11 of the
Dangerous Prisoners (Sexual Offenders) Act 2003
(Qld); and
3. That there be liberty to apply.
CATCHWORDS: Acts Interpretation Act 1954 (Qld), s 14B
Criminal Code Act 1899 (Qld), s 218A(1)
Dangerous Prisoners (Sexual Offenders) Act 2003 (Qld),
s 5(1), s 5(6), s 8(2)(a), schedule
Penalties and Sentences Act 1992 (Qld), s 9(5), s 9(6)
Attorney-General for the State of Queensland v Phineasa
[2012] QCA 184
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Attorney-General for the State of Queensland v SBD [2010]
QSC 104
R v Finch; ex parte A-G (Qld) [2006] QCA 60
R v McGrath [2005] QCA 463
Plaintiff S157/2002 v The Commonwealth (2003) 211 CLR
476
COUNSEL: J M Horton with B A Hall for the Applicant
C Reid for the Respondent
SOLICITORS: Crown Law for the Applicant
Legal Aid Queensland for the Respondent
ANN LYONS J:
This application
[1] The Respondent was convicted in 2010 of a number of offences including an
offence pursuant to s 218A(1)(b) of the Criminal Code Act 1899 (Qld) (“the
Criminal Code”) of using the internet to expose a person under the age of 16 years
to an indecent matter.
[2] The Applicant contends that the Respondent is therefore a prisoner under
Queensland‟s dangerous prisoner sexual offender legislation and seeks orders for
the appointment of two psychiatrists to examine him to ascertain if he is a serious
danger to the community and should be subject to either a supervision order or a
continuing detention order.
[3] The Respondent, however, maintains that the legislation does not apply to him as he
has not been convicted of a sexual offence against a child because the offence he
was convicted of pursuant to s 218A(1)(b) involved a covert police officer who had
assumed the identity of a 14 year old boy.
The Offences
[4] On 25 May 2010 the Respondent pleaded guilty before Dick DCJ to the following
charges:
(a) distributing child exploitation material contrary to s 228C(1) of the
Criminal Code;
(b) possessing child exploitation material contrary to s 228D of the
Criminal Code; and
(c) using the internet to expose a person under the age of 16 years to an
indecent matter contrary to s 218A(1)(b) of the Criminal Code.
[5] The Respondent was sentenced on Counts 1 and 2 to imprisonment for a period of
four years. In respect to Count 3 he was sentenced to imprisonment for a period of
18 months. The sentences were to be served concurrently and the 489 days he had
spent in pre-sentence custody was declared as time already served under the
sentence.
[6] In late 2008, the Respondent was observed at an internet café in Fortitude Valley. He
appeared to be chatting to teenage boys online and photographs of teenage boys
were seen on the computer screen by a number of witnesses. A complaint was
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made. Police attended and took details of the Respondent's user name and MSN
profile.
[7] The Schedule of Particulars indicates that on 6 January 2009 a police officer from
Taskforce Argos assumed the identity of a 14 year old boy and began chatting to the
Respondent online. Believing the police officer to be a 14 year old boy, the
Respondent asked the police officer a number of sexually explicit questions. During the
course of the conversation the Respondent discussed details of oral sex and
masturbation, indicating that it was “really good when someone else is doing it for
you”. Whilst the conversation was ongoing police attended an internet café and
continued their investigations. There was no indication that the two „boys‟ in fact
met at any time. On 21 January 2009 police executed a search warrant at the
Respondent‟s residence. A USB stick containing a number of photographs of teen
and pre-pubescent males was also discovered.
The Dangerous Prisoners (Sexual Offenders) Act 2003 (Qld) (“DPSOA”)
Regime
[8] Whilst this application is for orders under s 8(2)(a) of the DPSOA for the
Respondent to be examined by two psychiatrists, it is clear that such orders can only
issue if the Court is satisfied that the Respondent is a „prisoner‟ for the purposes of
the legislation and that there are reasonable grounds for believing that the „prisoner‟
is a serious danger to the community in the absence of a supervision or detention
order.
[9] The orders sought by the Applicant pursuant to s 8 are therefore only authorised by
s 5(1) „in relation to a prisoner‟, as defined by the DPSOA.
[10] Section 5(6) defines „prisoner‟ to mean:
“… a prisoner detained in custody who is serving a period of
imprisonment for a serious sexual offence, or serving a period of
imprisonment that includes a term of imprisonment for a serious
sexual offence, whether the person was sentenced to the term or
period of imprisonment before or after the commencement of this
section.1
[11] The term „serious sexual offence‟ is defined in the DPSOA dictionary as an offence
of a sexual nature, whether committed in Queensland or outside Queensland:
(a) involving violence; or
(b) against children.2
[12] It is clear that the Respondent did not actually perpetrate any violence upon the
children depicted in the child exploitation material that he possessed and distributed.
[13] It is conceded by the Applicant that Counts 1 and 2 do not qualify as serious sexual
offences.
[14] Whilst the Applicant accepts that there was no actual child involved as the „child‟
was in reality a police officer the Applicant argues that Count 3 is a serious sexual
1 Dangerous Prisoners (Sexual Offenders) Act 2003 (Qld), s 5(6) (emphasis added).
2 Ibid, Schedule, Dictionary (emphasis added).
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offence despite that fact because it was an offence of a sexual nature committed
against children.
[15] Accordingly, in this application a preliminary question arises as to whether the
offence here involves an “offence of a sexual nature committed against children”
which triggers the DPSOA. If the Respondent is not a „prisoner‟ as defined by the
DPSOA then there is no basis for making the orders sought.
Section 218A of the Criminal Code
[16] The Respondent was charged under s 218A(1)(b) of the Criminal Code. Section
218A of the Criminal Code provides:
“218A Using internet etc. to procure children under 16
(1) Any adult who uses electronic communication with intent
to—
(a) procure a person under the age of 16 years, or a
person the adult believes is under the age of 16
years, to engage in a sexual act, either in Queensland
or elsewhere; or (b) expose, without legitimate
reason, a person under the age of 16 years, or a
person the adult believes is under the age of 16
years, to any indecent matter, either in Queensland
or elsewhere; commits a crime.
…
(6) Also, for subsection (1)(a), it does not matter that, by reason
of circumstances not known to the adult, it is impossible in
fact for the person to engage in the sexual act.
(7) For subsection (1), it does not matter that the person is a
fictitious person represented to the adult as a real person.”
[17] For an offence to be committed pursuant to subsection (1)(a), it is not necessary to
prove that the adult intended to procure the person to engage in any particular
sexual act. For the purposes of subsection (1)(a), it does not matter that it is
impossible in fact for the person to engage in the sexual act or that the person is a
fictitious person represented to the adult as a real person.
[18] For subsection (1), if there is evidence that the person was represented to the adult
as being under the age of l6 years, in the absence of evidence to the contrary that is
proof that the adult believed the person was under that age. It is a defence to a
charge under this section to prove the adult believed on reasonable grounds that the
person was at least 16 years old.
[19] The question which needs to be answered in this case is this: “did the respondent
commit an offence of a sexual nature against children when he asked sexually
explicit questions of the police officer in contravention of s 218A(1)(b) of the
Criminal Code?”
Can an offence „against children‟ be committed when there is no „real‟ child
present?
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[20] A similar issue arose in the 2005 Court of Appeal decision of R v McGrath
(“McGrath”),3 where a covert police officer was also involved. The question in that
case was whether an offence under s 218A(1)(a) of the Criminal Code of using the
internet with intent to procure a child under 16 to engage in a sexual act was
properly described as an offence which was committed in relation to a child under
16 for the purposes of s 9(5) of the Penalties and Sentences Act 1992 (Qld) (“the
PSA”). Section 9(5) of the PSA provides that in sentencing an offender for an
offence of a sexual nature committed „in relation to a child‟ under 16 years, the
principles mentioned in s 9(2)(a) of the PSA (that a sentence of imprisonment
should be a sentence of last resort and that a sentence that allows the offender to
stay in the community is preferable) do not apply; and the offender must serve an
actual term of imprisonment, unless there are exceptional circumstances.
[21] Mackenzie J (with whom de Jersey CJ and Williams JA agreed) examined in great
detail the nature of an offence under the s 218A, as follows:
“[33] Leaving aside the legislative history and other extrinsic
material, it is, in my view, significant that s 218A is an
unusual section in that it is an intention to procure a child
under 16 to engage in a sexual act or to expose a child
under 16 to indecent matter and using the internet with one
of those intents that are central to the offence. The elements
of the offence are that a person uses the internet and that at
the time of using it, he has either an intent to procure a child
under 16 to engage in a sexual act, or to expose a child
under 16 to indecent matter. Viewed in that way, as a matter
of construction, the fact that the offender actually
communicates with a child under 16 or believes that he is
doing so is really only part of the evidence to prove that one
of the necessary intents existed. It is the fact that he
communicates by means of the internet with someone who
is or is believed to be under 16 that demonstrates one or
both of the intentions that are elements of the offence.
[34] In that respect, the offence is different from those where the
offence is constituted by a particular act, without any
discrimination between whether an adult or a child is the
victim, for example s 349, and cases where it is a
circumstance of aggravation to commit it if the victim is a
child under a specified age, for example s 209. Presumably
the use of the word “committed” in s 9(5) is intended to
remove the availability of s 9(2)(a) in cases where one of
those kinds of offences is committed in respect of a child as
opposed to an adult. Some offences, principally in Ch 22,
have an essential element defined by reference to the age of
the victim. Section 9(6) would plainly apply to them.
[35] The essential purpose of s 218A is to criminalise conduct
where people use the internet with one of the required
intents in relation to a child under 16. The notion that the
3 [2005] QCA 463.
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punishment regime may depend on whether a person
actually communicates with a child under 16 or is misled
into believing he is doing so, is, in the circumstances, based
on an analysis of s 218A that confuses what is required to
prove the offence. There is, on proper analysis, no reason to
conclude that for punishment purposes there is any basis to
subdivide offenders into different regimes, by reference to
whether or not contact was made with an actual child under
16. All offenders fall under the same sentencing regime,
with assessment of the impact of individual factors within
that regime providing for differentiation between their
punishments.
[36] For the reasons given, the meaning of the phrase “offence of
a sexual nature committed in relation to a child under 16”
in s 9(5) includes offences under s 218A irrespective of
whether or not an actual child under 16 is the recipient of
the offender‟s communication. Since the essence of the
offence is using the internet with one of the two intentions,
and what is done by the offender to demonstrate his
intention is done, so far as he is subjectively concerned, in
relation to a child under 16, the offence is properly
described as one committed in relation to a child under 16
for the purposes of s 9(5).”4
[22] In 2006 the Court of Appeal again considered the operation of s 9(5) and s 9(6) of
the PSA and the meaning of the term „in relation to a child‟ in R v Finch; ex parte
A-G (Qld) (“Finch”).5 The relevant question was whether the provisions of s 9(5)
applied to a Respondent who had pleaded guilty to one count of knowingly having
in his possession child abuse computer games (rather than an offence under s
218A). Williams JA held (with Keane and Muir JJA concurring) as follows:
“[18] The extent of operation of s 9(5) and (6) was considered by
this Court in R v McGrath [2005] QCA 463. The offence in
question there was under s 218A(2)(b) of the Code of using
the internet with intent to expose a child under 16 to
indecent matter. In a carefully reasoned judgment
Mackenzie J concluded that s 9(5) applied so as to make s
9(2)(a) inapplicable, although there was in that case no
actual child under 16 involved. The offender believed he
was communicating with a child under the age of 16 years
and in consequence in terms of s 9(5) there was an "offence
of a sexual nature committed in relation to a child under 16".
[19] On the hearing of this appeal counsel for the Attorney-
General submitted that the offence here was also one within
the scope of operation of s 9(5). However, it is difficult to
conclude that the offence here was "committed in relation to
4 Ibid, [33]-[36] (emphasis added).
5 [2006] QCA 60.
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a child under 16 years". Whilst the expression "in relation
to" is generally given a wide meaning, there is certainly no
identifiable child under 16 years with respect to whom this
offence was "committed". In my view it is unhelpful to say
that the images depict children under the age of 16 years.
[20] In the circumstances, I would conclude that in the absence
of specific statutory provision, s 9(5) of the Penalties and
Sentences Act 1992 (Qld) does not apply to an offence under
s 26(3) of the Act.”6
[23] Counsel for the Respondent relies on the decision in Finch and on the decision of
Peter Lyons J in Attorney-General for the State of Queensland v SBD (“SBD”)7 to
argue that, in this case, no offence has been committed against a child. In that
decision his Honour indicated that in his view trading images of child pornography
on the facts of that case did not amount to a serious sexual offence against a
particular child.
[24] In this regard I note that like the decision in Finch, which involved possession of
child abuse computer games, the relevant charge in SBD involved the obtaining and
disseminating of a number of images of child pornography for sexual gratification.
In neither case was there an approach to a particular „child‟ whether actually under
16 or not. The essence of those charges was the possession and dissemination of
items. I also note that his Honour held:
“[70] The expression “in relation to” used in s 9(5) envisages a
less direct connection between the offence and a child, than
the expression “against”. That case provides, in my view,
considerable support by way of analogy for the submission
made on behalf of the Respondent.
[71] It seems to me that the question whether an offence
involving child pornography is an offence of a sexual nature
“against children” will depend upon the facts said to
constitute the offence. Where, for example, a person charged
with the offence of the indecent treatment of a child under
the age of 16, had procured the child to engage in sexual
activity which was then photographed, it may well be the
case the offence is an offence against that child, and that it
comes within the definition of a serious sexual offence.
[72] On the other hand, it seems to me that where a person
obtains pornographic material involving children, in the
production of which that person has played no role, and that
person uses the material to obtain sexual gratification from
that person‟s dealings with another adult, it does not seem to
me that that involves the commission of a serious sexual
offence, as defined in the DPSOA. The connexion between
6 Ibid, [18]-[20] (emphasis added).
7 [2010] QSC 104.
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the offending conduct and any particular child seems to me
to be too remote to come within the statutory provision.
[73] On that basis, I am of the view that any future offence to
which Dr Sundin referred by her statement that “(the
respondent) may be unable to resist his paedophilic drives
and once again become absorbed in trading child
pornographic images for scenes of bestiality” is not a serious
sexual offence for the purposes of the DPSOA.
[74] With respect to the competence of the application, on the
same basis it seems to me that the offences of possessing
child exploitation material and distributing child
exploitation material (at least to the extent that they relate to
material which the respondent obtained by means of the
internet, intended for use, and used, for the purpose of
obtaining sexual gratification from adults) do not constitute
serious sexual offences.”8
[25] I would endorse his Honour‟s view in relation to the difference between the words
„in relation to‟ and the word „against‟. I also consider that the word „against‟
requires a stronger connection between an offender and a child than the words „in
relation to‟ implies. In this regard I note that the various definitions of „against‟ in
the Oxford Dictionary almost invariably require a temporal connection, as follows:
(a) Directly opposite; facing, in front of, in full view of.
(b) In the sight of, in presence of; with.
(c) Towards, with respect to, in regard to.
(d) More generally: Towards the front of, near, adjoining.
(e) In a direction facing; towards, forward to, to meet.
(f) Of motion into contact; pressure upon.
(g) Of motion or action in opposition to.
(h) In the opposite direction to the course of anything, counter to.
(i) Implying adverse motion or effort.
[26] Having considered those definitions, I consider that a person on a computer directly
communicating with a child in a sexual way is actually „directly opposite‟ or „in the
presence of‟ the child‟ in such a way that they must be considered to be committing
offences which are offences against that child. They are not simply sexual offences
generally but rather there is an offence against that particular child at the end of the
computer in the full sense of the word. In my view, the actual child has been
affected or corrupted by the adult‟s actions and has been exposed to an indecent
matter. The actions of the adult perpetrator are having an impact on the child victim.
They have in the very least been sexualised or corrupted in some way by the adult.
[27] Accordingly, I consider that if the Respondent asked the sexually explicit questions
of a real child instead of a covert police officer then there would no doubt that he
had committed a sexual offence against that child. The Respondent would have
exposed a child under 16 to an indecent matter. That is quite different to simply
possessing a whole range of images of children he has never met and never had any
8 Ibid, [70]-[74].
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contact with. Those who possess or disseminate items of child pornography may
never make an actual approach to a child. They may simply obtain gratification
from looking at images of children.
[28] It would seem to me therefore that there is a major factual distinction between the
decisions in both Finch and SBD, which involved possession or distribution of items
of child pornography where no particular child was involved (whether real or
otherwise) and the case here where the Respondent not only possessed and
distributed child exploitation material but also used the internet intending to target a
child under 16. It would seem to me that the Respondent indeed poses a very real
risk to children as he is seeking out children (but is not always successful if police
officers become involved) and is not just possessing or distributing images. I accept
that he intended to expose a child under 16 to an indecent matter but he did not
achieve that purpose on the particular occasion that he was monitored by police in
January 2009.
[29] If one examines the elements of an offence pursuant to s218A(1)(b) the offence can
be committed if the adult uses electronic communication with intent to either expose
“a person under the age of 16 years, or a person the adult believes is under the age
of 16 years” to any indecent matter. There are therefore two possible ways the
Respondent could have contravened subsection (1)(b). One clearly involves an
offence against a child; the other clearly relates to an offence that actually involves
an adult. The words of the section would appear to indicate that the latter offence is
only committed if there is an adult involved and not a child.
[30] Can it therefore be argued that the Respondent in this case has been convicted of an
offence of a sexual nature committed against a child? There is no doubt that the
word „against‟ must be construed strictly.
[31] In Attorney-General for the State of Queensland v Phineasa,9 Muir JA, with whom
White JA and Philippides J agreed, outlined the serious nature of the provisions of
the DPSOA and the history of the legislation. His Honour in particular referred,
with approval, to the statement of principle of Gleeson CJ in Plaintiff S157/2002 v
The Commonwealth:10
“[41] To similar effect, is the following statement of principle of
Gleeson CJ in Plaintiff 5157/2002 v The Commonwealth:
“... courts do not impute to the legislature an
intention to abrogate or curtail fundamental rights or
freedoms unless such an intention is clearly
manifested by unmistakable and unambiguous
language. General words will rarely be sufficient for
that purpose. What courts will look for is a clear
indication that the legislature has directed its
attention to the rights or .freedoms in question, and
has consciously decided upon abrogation or
curtailment. As Lord Hoffmann recently pointed out
in the United Kingdom, for Parliament squarely to
confront such an issue may involve a political cost,
9 [2012] QCA 184.
10 (2003) 211 CLR 476 at 492.
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but in the absence of express language or necessary
implication, even the most general words are taken
to be „subject to the basic rights of the individual‟.”11
[32] His Honour also referred to s 14B of the Acts Interpretation Act 1954 (Qld), which
permits reference to the Minister‟s second reading speech as an aid to construction
which indicated that “there are likely to be very few of these applications” and that
the “law has been carefully drafted to confine its operation”.12 His Honour
continued:
“[43] It is stated in the explanatory notes to the Dangerous
Prisoners (Sexual Offenders) Bill 2003:
„This Bill effectively addresses these concerns by
enabling the Supreme Court to order the post-
sentence preventive detention or supervision of sex
offenders who pose a serious danger to the
community if released at their sentence expiry date.
…
There is currently a gap in the law when it comes to
the protection of the community from dangerous
sexual offenders. The law does not presently provide
a mechanism whereby the community can be
protected from a potentially dangerous individual,
who is not mentally ill for the purposes of the mental
health legislation and who has not committed a
criminal offence (that is other than an offence for
which the individual has already been sentenced).
These amendments address that inadequacy by
providing for a mechanism whereby prisoners who,
if released, pose an unacceptable risk of committing
a further offence of a sexual nature, may be detained
when it is appropriate to do so for the protection of
the community. It is the need to protect the
community which is the paramount reason for the
introduction of the Bill.”13
[33] His Honour also indicated that the Court must give effect to the clear words of the
section:
“[44] Such aids to construction cannot be substituted for the text
of the Act. The court must 'give effect to the will of
Parliament as expressed in the law'. And although 'The
meaning of the text [of an Act] may require consideration of
the context, which includes the general purpose and policy
of a provision, in particular the mischief it is seeking to
remedy‟, it is ultimately the text, „construed according to
11 Above n 9, [41].
12 Hansard, 4 June 2003 at 2581.
13 Above n 9, [43].
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such principles of interpretation as provide rational
assistance in the circumstances of the particular case‟, which
is the controlling factor.
[45] In this case, the construction which in my view is suggested
by the language of the Act is, at worst, consistent with that
pointed to by the aids to construction just discussed. Indeed,
that construction is amply justified by the words of the Act
without resort to extrinsic materials or other aids to
construction.”14
[34] There is no doubt that in McGrath, McKenzie J was considering the provisions of
s218A(1) to ascertain if offences of a sexual nature had been committed „in relation
to children‟ in order to determine whether particular provisions of the PSA had been
triggered. I accept that in the present case the words under consideration are
whether offences of a sexual nature have been committed „against children‟ and
that generally a stronger connection is required for an act to be committed „against‟
a child as opposed to „in relation to a child‟. However, once the elements of
s218A(1) are understood in the way analysed by McKenzie J in McGrath, it is in
my view abundantly clear that the offence committed by the Respondent is indeed
an offence „of a sexual nature against children‟ because of his subjective intention
at the time. His intention was to commit an offence of a sexual nature against a
child and the elements of s 218A(1) were satisfied. I consider that offences
committed pursuant to s 218A(1) should be considered to be offences of a sexual
nature not just in relation to children but that, in addition, such offences should also
be considered to be offences of a sexual nature against children.
[35] Having considered the provisions of s 218A(1) of the Criminal Code, as construed
by the Court of Appeal in McGrath, I consider that an offence pursuant to s 218A(1)
is indeed an offence that is aimed at penalising sexual offending against children,
even if there is no actual child involved because there was in fact an intention to
offend against a particular (albeit mistaken) child. As McKenzie J indicated in
McGrath, the essence of the offence under s 218A(1) is using the internet with an
intention either to procure a child to engage in a sexual act or to expose a child to an
indecent matter and that what an offender does subjectively to demonstrate either of
those intentions is therefore done, so far as the offender is concerned, in relation to a
child under 16.
[36] Section 218A(1) section also indicates that irrespective of whether there is a real
child or a covert police officer involved the culpability of the Respondent is the
same.
[37] Significantly, irrespective of whether there is a real child involved or a covert police
officer the risk that the Respondent poses to the community is the same. The risk
the Respondent poses to the community does not alter because his victim did not
actually turn out to be 14 years old. The Respondent is a risk to the community by
his actions, namely that he has been convicted of an offence pursuant to s 218A,
because he intended to expose a child to sexually indecent material.
14 Ibid, [44]-[45].
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[38] Accordingly the Respondent's use of the internet with intent to expose a child to
indecent matter is an „offence‟, „of a sexual nature‟, „against children‟ because he
was acting with the requisite intent. He was convicted of that offence. He is
therefore serving a period of imprisonment for sexual offences against children. He
is a „prisoner‟ to whom the provisions of the DPSOA apply. Furthermore, he is
indeed a prisoner who, if released, poses an unacceptable risk of committing a
further offence of a sexual nature. The Respondent is an offender to whom the
legislation is intended to apply.
[39] Counsel for the Respondent concedes that if the Respondent is a prisoner to whom
the DPSOA applies then the order sought for his examination by two psychiatrists
should be made as there are reasonable grounds to believe the Respondent is a
serious danger to the community in the absence of a Division 2 order.
[40] There will be orders in terms of the draft which has been submitted by Counsel for
the Applicant.
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