Family Qld Pty Ltd as trustee for Beaumont Entertainment v Liquor & Gaming Commission [2012] QCAT 598
CITATION: Family Qld Pty Ltd as trustee for Beaumont
Entertainment v Liquor & Gaming Commission
[2012] QCAT 598
PARTIES: Family Qld Pty Ltd as trustee for Beaumont
Entertainment trading as The Family Nightclub
(Applicant)
v
Liquor and Gaming Commission
(Respondent)
APPLICATION NUMBER: GAR291-12
MATTER TYPE: General administrative review matters
HEARING DATE: 5 October 2012
HEARD AT: Brisbane
DECISION OF: Michelle Howard, Acting Senior Member
DELIVERED ON: 5 October 2012
DELIVERED AT: Brisbane
ORDERS MADE: 1. Unless otherwise ordered, the decision
made by the Queensland Liquor and
Gaming Commission on 24 July 2012 is
stayed until the review is determined.
CATCHWORDS: STAY APPLICATION – whether detriment to
applicant outweighs public interest factors –
where condition prohibiting use of regular glass
bottles imposed – where management practices
had previously removed glass bottles other than
beer bottles from sale – where only previous
incident involving a bottle was over two years
ago and did not involve a beer bottle – where
significant drop in patron spend since condition
operative – where reputation of licensee likely to
be detrimentally affected
Queensland Civil and Administrative Tribunal
Act 2009, s 22
Elliott v QBSA [201] QCAT 180
Music Kafe v OLGR [2012] QCAT 217
The Hideaway Café Bar Pty Ltd v OLGR [2012]
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QCAT 46
Harley v Department of Justice & Attorney-
General [2012] QCAT 390
APPEARANCES and REPRESENTATION (if any):
APPLICANT: Family Qld Pty Ltd as trustee for Beaumont
Entertainment trading as The Family Nightclub
represented by Mr M Madsen of Mullins
Lawyers
RESPONDENT: Liquor and Gaming Commission represented by
Ms J Droguet of Office of General Counsel,
Department of Justice & Attorney-General
REASONS FOR DECISION
[1] The Family Nightclub is a venue which hosts local and international
musical performances. A liquor licence is held for the premises by Family
Qld Pty Ltd as trustee for Beaumont Entertainment (Family).
[2] The Liquor and Gaming Commission (LGC) recently made a decision to
impose a condition on the licence prohibiting use of regular glass (as
opposed to tempered or toughened glass) for any bottles, including wine
bottles, stubbies, mixers and ready to drink (RTDs) bottles during trading
hours. This effectively prohibits sale of any liquor in bottles which are
made from regular glass. It must be decanted into another container.
[3] Family filed an application in the Tribunal to review the decision. It has
also filed an application seeking an order staying the operation of the
decision.
[4] I listed the stay application for an oral hearing. Mr Raphael Bickle, a
director of Family, filed an affidavit in support of the stay application.
I also heard oral evidence from him today.
[5] Mr Bickle gave evidence that the Bickle family has considerable
experience in the hospitality industry. It currently operates 6 venues,
including The Family Nightclub. Mr Bickle has personally been involved in
management of the Bickle family interests for more than 20 years. He
considers that they have a good working relationship with Police and
community members, and a good reputation in the industry. He told the
Tribunal that they had won many industry awards over the years and have
not had any infringements.
[6] Since the condition was implemented, sales of what may be described as
fashionable beers, usually sold in their bottles, have dropped. Corona
beer sales, previously the most popular beer at the venue, have dropped
by some 75%, while sales of other beers have dropped by about 50%.
Once customers realise that the beer must be decanted, many elect to
purchase something else. In Mr Bickle’s view, based on his experience
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and observations that draft beer on tap has been historically unpopular in
late-night venues, this is because the choice of beer is image-related. He
says that if it cannot be purchased in its bottle, it no longer holds the same
attraction for patrons.
[7] Corresponding with the drop in beer sales, has been a marked increase in
sale of spirits, especially vodka. Before the condition took effect, Mr
Bickle explained, male customers tended to start drinking beer which has
a lower alcohol content, and change to spirits later in the night. In his
experience, most beer is sold before 1am and most spirits after 1am. Now
patrons are arriving, on average, later. He believes that this is related to
not being able to get their preferred drink in a bottle, although he
acknowledges that the period since implementation has been relatively
brief and the change in patron behaviour could also be related to the
particular acts at the club during that period.
[8] The overall financial effect has been a drop in the average ‘spend’ per
customer of some $3, resulting in a decrease of revenue of $12,000 per
week. Before the implementation of the condition, it was anticipated that
significant additional front-of-house staff would be required to absorb the
additional time required to pour the bottled drinks into non-regular glass
containers. Mr Bickle explained that experience suggests that delays in
service would likely invite pressure points which can trigger violent
behaviour. For several weeks, additional bar staff were put in place.
However, given the trends which have resulted from the change, only
additional back-of-house staff, to attend to tasks related to cleaning of the
additional glasses being used to serve spirits are required. The cost is
approximately an additional $500 per week.
[9] There are two contractual arrangements in place with suppliers, by virtue
of which the venue must stock products including Coronas and other
beers, which require a certain percentage of fridge space to be maintained
for those products. Given the significant drop in sales since the condition
has been in place, Mr Bickle considers that the condition affects the
viability of meeting these arrangements which are applicable until about
February and April 2013 respectively.
[10] He considers that the condition affects the reputation of the Bickle family’s
interests in the industry. He suggested that having this type of condition
indicated to those in the industry that the licensee could not operate a
venue effectively. He said that other venues which have had conditions
imposed relating to glass had experienced a significant drop in patronage
and sales.
[11] He is aware of only one incident at The Family Nightclub which involved a
bottle made of regular glass. It occurred over 2 years ago when a female
patron tried to strike another female patron with a Smirnoff Black bottle.
Family submits that the licensee had taken steps of its own volition not to
sell RTDs and to remove regular glass from the premises except bottles.
It adopted a non-regular glass policy more than 2 years ago in respect of
drinking receptacles, apart from glass bottles the subject of the
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application. RTDs which have a high alcohol content. The policy is said
to be at considerable cost to the business, for the purpose of safety.
[12] Various references were provided in support of the good reputation and
practices of the Bickle family group, from persons including Rev Lance
Merguard of ChaplainWatch Inc, Fortitude Valley, which operates
overnight in the Valley Entertainment Precinct, which focuses on public
safety in public spaces and is often the first response to intoxicated
persons. He considers the Bickle family have had a significant role in
harm minimisation within their venues, which has had a positive trickle
down effect on other venues. He considers they operate ‘well thought-of’
venues.
[13] LGC refers to 12 alleged incidents involving alcohol misuse at the Family
Nightclub from 4 April 2010 to 17 October 2011 in making the decision to
impose the condition. Of these, in its decision, it does not rely upon 4 of
these for various reasons, including that in 2 of them, it found that the
Family staff acted to minimise harm from alcohol misuse. In the other 7, it
concluded that the licensee’s arrangements were not effective to minimise
harm caused by violence at the premises. Although it had insufficient
information to conclude whether alcohol misuse was a factor in all but 2 of
the incidents, it concluded that alcohol was likely to have been a factor. In
4 of them, this conclusion was made on the basis that the violence
occurred in the early hours of the morning where alcohol was served.
Family calculates that during this period, the 12 incidents represents a
ratio of 1 incident per every 23,436 patrons.
[14] LGC says that since that time there have been another 7 incidents at the
premises between 17 March 2012 and 19 August 2012. It submits that
2 of these involve the use of drink receptacles. During this period, the
Family calculates that this represents 1 incident per every 30,000 patrons.
Mr Bickle gave evidence that there have been no incidents at all at the
premises since the condition has been operative.
[15] Family, while acknowledging that the objects of the Act include minimising
harm and the potential for harm associated with alcohol abuse and
misuse, submits that having regard to the history of the declining risk
demonstrated by the falling numbers of incidents, the real risk of harm to
the public has decreased over time. It says its management of the venue
achieves this aim, including the policy not to sell RTDs. Further, it argues
that the detriment to it in terms of decreased revenue and reputational
harm is significant. Further, it says the damage to reputation may be
irreparable. Therefore, it argues that a stay which effects a status quo of
the situation as it existed prior to the imposition of the condition is
desirable and should be granted pending hearing of the review
application.
[16] LGC does not dispute that of the incidents identified, only the 1 incident
identified by Mr Bickle involved a bottle made of regular glass. While
acknowledging that there is always some risk to public safety at licensed
premises, it argues that neither Family’s own management procedures
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and protocols, nor its submissions adequately address the violence at the
premises. It argues that the incidents at the premises indicate a level of
patron behaviour and the inability of the licensee to prevent risks, to the
extent that the potential for risk involving glass led to a requirement for the
condition imposed to ensure harm minimisation. There is, it argues, some
risk of harm from regular glass at the premises, which it says the condition
seeks to minimise further.
[17] LGC submits that risk to patrons is a public interest consideration which
outweighs the detriment to the Family. Further, it argues that the financial
detriment referred to involves, in part, a management decision to employ
additional staff. Further, it says that the patron safety objectives of the
condition outweigh the hardship to the Family.
Should a stay order be granted?
[18] Section 22(3) of the Queensland Civil and Administrative Tribunal Act
2009 (the QCAT Act) provides that the Tribunal may make an order
staying the operation of a reviewable decision pending hearing. It may
only do so if it considers a stay order is desirable after having regard to
the interests of any person whose interests may be affected; any
submissions of the decision-maker; and the public interest: s 22(4). In
exercising its discretion,1 the Tribunal must form a positive view that
making a stay order is desirable.
[19] The Tribunal may also consider other matters in addition to those
specified in section 22(4), including whether there are real issues for
determination; and whether the balance of convenience favours the
granting of the stay.2
[20] It is not controversial that there are real issues for determination on the
review hearing. Accordingly I accept that the Family has an arguable case
to present, but it is not my role on the stay application to determine the
merits of the review.
[21] I accept that as a result of the condition which is the subject of the
application, The Family Nightclub has experienced a decrease in revenue,
and additional staffing costs, although the latter are somewhat less
significant than had been anticipated before implementation. Also,
I accept Mr Bickle’s evidence about the likely effect of the condition on the
reputation of the licensee and the venue, which was based on his
experience in the industry and his knowledge of the consequences for
other licensees and venues upon whom/which such conditions have been
imposed.
[22] It is not controversial that for some considerable time, before the condition
was imposed, the only regular glass receptacles available on the
1 Elliott v QBSA [201] QCAT 180.
2 Music Kafe v OLGR [2012] QCAT 217; The Hideaway Café Bar Pty Ltd v OLGR [2012]
QCAT 46; Harley v Department of Justice & Attorney-General [2012] QCAT 390.
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premises, as a result of the licensee’s management decisions, were beer
bottles. In my view, in considering the stay application, it is significant that
beer bottle/s have not been involved in any incident/s at the premises.
Further, I consider Mr Bickle’s evidence that beer, which has lower alcohol
content than RTDs or spirits, is largely sold earlier in the night before 1am,
is significant. As I will explain, on the evidence before me, it seems that
the risks involving RTD bottles and beer bottles at the venue may be
different.
[23] It is in the public interest to minimise harm from alcohol, including alcohol-
related violence. The objects of the Act reflect this interest. Of course, a
violent incident can occur at any time and in any place, for example due to
a dispute between persons or as a result of anti-social actions by a
person, whether or not alcohol has been consumed by any of the
participants. Any number of usually harmless items can be used as
weapons by a person: indeed, one incident at The Family Nightclub
allegedly involved a patron using her high heeled shoe as a weapon.
[24] Alcohol-related incidents, by definition, occur after patrons have been
drinking alcohol for some time, sufficient for alcohol to affect the patron/s
involved. This is likely to occur later in the night in nightclubs, such as The
Family Nightclub. Mr Bickle gave evidence that most beer, which is lower
in alcohol than RTDs and spirits, consumed in nightclubs is consumed
earlier in the evening before male patrons move to higher alcohol drinks,
namely spirits. This may explain why beer bottles have not been used in
violent incidents at the Family Nightclub, especially if they are promptly
removed by staff after the beer is consumed. That is, beer may not
commonly be the drink of choice by the time alcohol-related incidents are
more likely to occur.
[25] If that is not the reason, then for some other reason, beer bottles have not
been used in incidents at the venue. Management practices may be the
reason. Given the work of Rev Merguard in the Valley precinct, it appears
he is in a good position to understand what is happening at venues and
see the effects of good and poor management. He speaks highly of the
manner in which the Bickle family minimises harm in the venues they run.
However, it is not for me to form any definitive conclusions on the stay
application about this. That is a matter for the review hearing.
[26] However, what is clear is that there have been no incidents involving the
use of beer bottles at the venue and there is no evidence that the risk is
likely to be different during the period until hearing. Of course, some
residual, although on the material before me it is apparently very small,
risk remains that a beer bottle/s may be used in a violent incident/s
resulting from alcohol use or misuse. As both parties acknowledge,
potential for harm can not be eliminated. Indeed the objects of the Act
include its minimisation, rather than elimination of harm.
[27] There is financial and reputational detriment to Family if a stay is not
granted. In the absence of any recent violent incidents involving use of
bottles by patrons, and in particular, any incidents involving use of a beer
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bottle/s (being the only regular glass which the licensee has allowed for
sale for some time before the condition was imposed), there is no basis to
conclude that the public interest requires, pending the hearing of the
review, that the condition, which is the subject of the review, remain in
effect.
[28] I am satisfied that the balance of convenience favours granting the stay
application and that it is desirable to do so to preserve the interests of
Family pending determination of the review application.
[29] I make orders accordingly.
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Official source: https://www.sclqld.org.au/caselaw/QCAT/2012/598