Department of Education and Training Teachers' Certified Agreement [2012] QIRC 59
CITATION: Department of Education and Training Teachers' Certified Agreement 2010
(CA/2012/47) - Decision
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QUEENSLAND INDUSTRIAL RELATIONS COMMISSION
Industrial Relations Act 1999 - s. 176 - requirements for other industrial action
by an employee organisation or employees
Queensland Teachers Union of Employees AND
State of Queensland (Department of Education, Training and Employment)
(CA/2012/47)
DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION AND TRAINING TEACHERS' CERTIFIED AGREEMENT 2010
DEPUTY PRESIDENT BLOOMFIELD 11 July 2012
DECISION (as edited)
Background
[1] On 9 July 2012 Queensland Teachers Union of Employees (QTU) filed an application in the Queensland
Industrial Relations Commission (the Commission) in which it asked the Commission to issue an Order for a
protected action ballot pursuant to s. 176 and Schedule 4 of the Industrial Relations Act 1999 (the Act). The
group of employees proposed to be balloted are all financial members of QTU employed under the Department
of Education and Training Teachers' Certified Agreement 2010.
[2] On the basis that s. 6(2) of Schedule 4 of the Act requires the Commission to, as far as practicable, decide the
application within two working days of it being filed, the Commission as presently constituted listed the matter
for hearing on Wednesday 11 July 2012 at 10.00 a.m. At that time, Ms T. Edmonds appeared for QTU, Mr D.
Waters appeared for the Department of Education, Training and Employment (DETE) and Ms K. McGill
appeared for the Acting Chief Executive of the Public Service Commission (PSC). In response to a question
asked of him at the outset of proceedings, Mr Waters indicated that DETE would be opposing QTU's application
on a number of grounds, including:
• the fact that QTU had authorised industrial action by its members in relation to the proposed roll out of
the State Government's Independent Public Schools program and DETE's Teaching and Learning audit
program;
• lack of specificity in the proposed question to be put to members in the ballot process; and
• the period of notice which the QTU would be required to provide to DETE (under s. 176(6)(b)), before
taking industrial action, if the proposed ballot was approved.
[3] After hearing from Mr Waters and Ms Edmonds I ruled that QTU's present application was separate and distinct
from QTU's alleged involvement in authorising unprotected industrial action. I also ruled that the present
application should proceed to be heard and determined expeditiously, with DETE's concerns about QTU's
alleged involvement in unauthorised industrial action to be the subject of separate proceedings as a result of its
notification of dispute to the Commission (D/2012/132) early on the morning of 11 July 2012 . As such, I
proceeded to hear the submissions of Ms Edmonds in support of QTU's application for a protected industrial
action ballot and DETE's opposition to certain elements of the application.
[4] Relevantly, the question which QTU proposed be put to employees was:
"In support of reaching an enterprise agreement, do you endorse taking protected industrial action in the
form of an unlimited number of State wide or Regional or Workplace stoppages of work of 1 to 24 hours in
duration or bans or limitations on the manner in which work is undertaken?".
[5] After an exchange between the Commission as presently constituted and Ms Edmonds about the nature of the
question posed and whether it satisfied the requirements of Schedule 4 - ss. 2 and 3(b) of the Act, Ms Edmonds
informed the Commission that the proposed question was in identical form to a question approved by Deputy
President Smith of Fair Work Australia (FWA) in Australian Education Union v The State of Victoria
(Department of Education and Early Childhood Development)1. In doing so, she highlighted the Deputy
President's reasoning, noting that the approach he adopted was in accord with the reasoning of a Full Bench of
FWA in John Holland v AMWU2 at paragraph [19] of that decision.
[6] In response, Mr Waters referred me to:
1 Australian Education Union v The State of Victoria (Department of Education and Early Childhood Development) [2012] FWA 3729.
2 John Holland v AMWU [2010] FWA 526 per Giudice J, Watson SDP and Blaire C.
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• Davids Distribution Pty Ltd v National Union of Workers 3, a decision of the Full Court of the Federal
Court issued on 13 August 1999;
• United Firefighters' Union of Australia v Country Fire Authority4, a decision of a Full Bench of the
Australian Industrial Relations Commission (AIRC) issued on 8 September 2006; and
• Telstra Corporation Limited v CEPU5, a decision of Vice President Lawler issued on 5 December 2009.
[7] Mr Waters said that the decisions he referred to each highlighted the need for any questions to be put to
employees during a protected action ballot to be clear and unambiguous and framed in a way which enabled both
employees who might be balloted and their employer to understand the nature of the industrial action which was
proposed.
[8] After considering the authority tendered by Ms Edmonds, I informed QTU that I regarded the learned Deputy
President's decision as simply one of a number of decisions made in FWA in relation to protected action ballot
order applications and that, with respect to Deputy President Smith, the majority of decisions reflected a view
that the question(s) to be posed during a ballot must be framed in such a way that the nature of the proposed
industrial action is clear and unambiguous and not left for subjective interpretation.
[9] After being informed of this, Ms Edmonds applied to amend QTU's application to recast the question to be put to
employees to be balloted, as follows:
"b) The questions to be put to the employees who are to be balloted are:
In support of reaching an enterprise agreement with the Department of Education, Training and
Employment do you wish to organise and/or engage in separately, concurrently and/or consecutively,
the following protected industrial action against the Department of Education, Training and
Employment?
Question 1:
An unlimited number of State wide, Regional or Workplace bans or limitations on the manner in which
work is undertaken?
Question 2:
An unlimited number of State wide, Regional or Workplace stoppages of work up to 24 hours
duration?".
[10] On behalf of DETE Mr Waters opposed QTU's application to amend its initial application on the basis the
change constituted a substantial amendment and "clearly altered the nature of the question proposed to be put to
members of QTU". After hearing Mr Waters' arguments, I determined to allow QTU to amend its application to
incorporate the new question (as above). In so ruling, I informed Mr Waters that the nature of the amendment
was not so substantially different to the original question proposed that it would disadvantage DETE in any way,
in that virtually the same issues were being canvassed with QTU members, albeit in a different format. In
addition, the provisions of Schedule 4 of the Act (specifically s. 6(2)) required the Commission to deal with
applications for protected action ballot orders, so far as practicable, within two working days after the
application is made.
[11] After noting the Commission's ruling, Mr Waters raised similar objections to those outlined in paragraph [2] in
relation to the clarity of the questions proposed to be canvassed with members of QTU during any ballot. In
doing so, Mr Waters stated that DETE had a responsibility, through 44,300 teachers employed in 1,239 schools,
to ensure the safety and wellbeing of 507,526 students in the Queensland Public Schools sector. This
responsibility meant that DETE needed to be certain of the nature of any industrial action which teachers might
take if it was to plan adequate contingency arrangements and be in a position to inform interested parties, such as
parents and guardians, of those arrangements. In this respect, Mr Waters also asked the Commission to
determine, in accordance with the provisions of s. 176(6)(b) and Schedule 4 - ss. 8(4) and (5) of the Act, that
QTU be required, if its ballot was successful, to give DETE seven working days notice of the nature of the
industrial action it (ultimately) authorised its members to engage in.
[12] In response to these latter submissions, Ms Edmonds informed me that QTU had always been, and continued to
be, committed to ensuring the safety of children attending Queensland Public Schools. In this respect, she said it
was QTU's clear intention to provide three clear working days notice to DETE of the introduction of any bans or
limitations on the manner in which work might be performed and five working days notice of any State,
Regional or Workplace stoppage of work. She noted that the latter period was identical to the notice period
decided by Commissioner Asbury in Department of Education and Training v Queensland Teachers' Union of
3 Davids Distribution Pty Ltd v National Union of Workers [1999] FCA 1108.
4 United Firefighters' Union of Australia v Country Fire Authority [2006] AIRC 563.
5 Telstra Corporation Limited v CEPU [2009] FWA 159.
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Employees6, when QTU previously engaged in industrial action in support of enterprise bargaining claims. This
was the same period of notice Deputy President Smith determined in the Australian Education Union7 matter
referred to in paragraph [5].
[13] Ms Edmonds also indicated that members of QTU were sufficiently industrially aware to understand the nature
of the questions proposed to be canvassed with them in the amended application and could be relied upon to vote
accordingly. Further, DETE's concerns about adequate notice and the identification of any bans or limitations on
the manner in which work might be performed would be addressed (and satisfied) in any notification of
industrial action which QTU might ultimately provide. It was neither necessary nor appropriate for the specific
aspects of industrial action which might ultimately be engaged in to be canvassed at this time. This was because
the QTU Council would decide the nature and timing of industrial action to be taken after poling its members.
[14] After hearing from each of the parties, and noting Ms McGill's support, on behalf of PSC, for the position
advocated by Mr Waters on behalf of DETE, I indicated to the parties that I would reserve my decision and issue
it during the course of the day after I had the further opportunity to consider the matters raised.
Requirements of the Act
[15] The provisions of s. 176 and Schedule 4 of the Act require that the Commission satisfy itself that a number of
specific requirements have been met before a protected action ballot order can be issued. In that respect I am
satisfied that:
• the employee organisation making the application is a negotiating party to the proposed agreement (see
Schedule 4 - s. 3(1)(a));
• the application states the group of employees who are to be balloted (see Schedule 4 - s. 3(3)(a));
• the application identifies the group of employees to be balloted as only those employees who will be
bound by the proposed agreement and who are (also) members of the applicant (see Schedule 4
- ss. 3(4)(a) and (b));
• the application has been made no earlier than 30 days before the nominal expiry date (i.e. 30 June 2012)
of the existing agreement (see Schedule 4 - s. 4(2));
• the application for a protected action ballot order has been given to the employer of the employees who
are to be balloted and the Electoral Commission Queensland (ECQ) within 24 hours after it was made
(see Schedule 4 - s. 5);
• QTU has been, and is, genuinely trying to reach agreement with the employer of the employees who are
to be balloted (see Schedule 4 - s. 8(1)(b); and
• negotiations for the agreement have begun (see Schedule 4 - s. 8(1)(c)).
[16] However, in terms of the provisions of Schedule 4 - s. 3(b), I am not satisfied that the question which is proposed
to be put to the employees who are to be balloted is framed clearly enough to enable those employees to
sufficiently identify, and then vote on, the nature of the proposed industrial action.
[17] In this respect I note that while QTU have specifically relied upon the reasoning of Deputy President Smith as
authority for establishing that its (amended) questions are framed with sufficient clarity I am also conscious of
the fact that the decision he relies upon to arrive at his conclusion (i.e. John Holland8) contains a number of
other comments and conclusions sufficient, in my mind, to cause me to not follow his reasoning. In my view,
the ratio of the decision cannot be ascertained by reading paragraph [19] in isolation. That paragraph must be
read in the context of the whole of the Full Bench's consideration of the first ground of appeal, which is set out in
paragraphs [11] to [23], inclusive.
[18] I also note that the decision of Deputy President Smith is at odds with the majority of decisions of other
Members of FWA concerning protected action ballot order applications. In those decisions, both preceding and
following the decision in John Holland ibid, the traditional test has been that established by a differently
constituted Bench of AIRC in the United Firefighters'9 matter referred to by Mr Waters. In that decision the Full
Bench said:
"[20] …the intention of the legislature can only be gleaned from the provision of the legislation in this case,
it appears logical that when employees are asked whether to authorise industrial action in the
protected action ballot, the nature of the proposed industrial action is expressed clearly enough to
enable them to make an informed choice.
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6 Department of Education and Training v Queensland Teachers' Union of Employees (2009) 191 QGIG 383.
7 Australian Education Union v The State of Victoria (Department of Education and Early Childhood Development) [2012] FWA 3729.
8 John Holland v AMWU [2010] FWA 526.
9 United Firefighters' Union of Australia v Country Fire Authority [2006] AIRC 563.
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[31] In determining whether to engage in protected action it is reasonable to expect, and in our view a
requirement of the Act, that the nature of the proposed industrial action is specified. In our view, this
requires employees who will be voting on the questions to understand what work would not be
undertaken and what work would remain to be done. The description of the nature of the industrial
action in the questions they are asked in the ballot should enable employees to understand the
implications for them while at work, and other relevant circumstances.".
[19] In arriving at my view that the proposed questions do not sufficiently describe the nature of the proposed
industrial action, I remain conscious of the submissions of Ms Edmonds that the actual nature of the industrial
action which is to be taken, if the ballot is successful, will be clearly set out in notices provided to DETE in
accordance with the provisions of the Act. However, I am also conscious of her submission to the effect that,
prior to issuing any such notice(s), QTU's Council will (separately) poll QTU members to ascertain their support
for different types of action.
[20] To my mind, this highlights the deficiencies in the proposed questions. It might be that a member (or members)
of QTU would be prepared to vote in support of a 24 hour stoppage of work whereas the same member (or
members) might not be prepared to vote in a support of a stoppage of two hours or four hours duration. The
question, as proposed, does not allow the member (or members) to inform QTU, nor ECQ, of their preference
through the protected action ballot order process. Rather, any decision about the duration of any stoppage will
be left to the QTU's Council. In that respect, it could never be ascertained whether the industrial action
ultimately authorised by QTU's Council met the requirements of ss. 176(2) and (3) of the Act. The very dangers
highlighted by the Full Bench in John Holland10 at [16] then come to the fore.
[21] I also note that for the purposes of Schedule 4 of the Act a protected action ballot order "means an order of the
commission requiring a protected action ballot to be conducted to determine whether employees wish to engage
in particular industrial action in relation to a proposed agreement.".
[22] While noting that any application to the Commission for a protected action ballot order must (only) state "the
question to be put to the employees who are to be balloted, including the nature of the proposed industrial
action", rather than the particular industrial action, the risk remains that if the question posed to employees is
ambiguous and lacking in clarity the industrial action ultimately taken (if the ballot is successful) may be found
not to be protected industrial action.
[23] Given the above circumstances, and the lack of jurisprudence in this Tribunal in relation to the matter, I think
that the wisest, and safest, decision for me to make is to determine that the proposed question to be put to the
employees to be balloted does not include sufficient description to enable employees to identify "the nature" of
the proposed industrial action which they are being asked to vote upon. Consequently, I am not satisfied that the
application meets the requirement of Schedule 4 - s. 3(3)(b) of the Act. In such circumstances I am unable to
make a protected action ballot order in the form sought by QTU.
[24] However, in the circumstances of this case I think I should indicate to QTU, as well as to DETE and PSC, that
had Question One been separated into two questions, the first part dealing with bans and the second with
limitations, I would have been prepared to approve those questions. Similarly, if Question Two had referred to
stoppages of work, for example, of one, two, four, eight and 24 hours as separate questions, I would have been
prepared to approve those questions as well. In relation to DETE's arguments concerning the period of notice
which QTU might be required to provide (i.e. that DETE should be provided seven working days notice of any
industrial action (see s. 176(6)(b) and Schedule 4 - ss. 8(4) and (5)), if its present application had been approved
and the ballot was successful, I can indicate that had I approved QTU's application for a protected action ballot
order I would have approved the notice period specified at paragraphs 2(d) in its amended application (i.e. five
working days notice).
[25] Finally, given that each of the elements set out in Schedule 4 have to be met, and I am not satisfied that the
questions contained in QTU's amended application sufficiently identify the nature of the proposed industrial
action to be taken, I am not able to issue the protected action ballot order sought. However, this does not prevent
QTU from lodging a fresh application for a protected action ballot order which includes a differently framed
question, or questions.
[26] For the foregoing reasons I refuse the application.
[27] I order accordingly.
10 John Holland v AMWU [2010] FWA 526.
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A.L. BLOOMFIELD, Deputy President.
Hearing Details:
2012 11 July
Released: 11 July 2012
Appearances:
Ms T. Edmonds for Queensland Teachers Union of
Employees.
Mr D. Waters for the Department of Education, Training and
Employment.
Ms K. McGill for the Public Service Commission.
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Official source: https://www.sclqld.org.au/caselaw/QIRC/2012/059