FA v Department of Communities (Child Safety Services) [2011] QCAT 725
CITATION: FA v Department Of Communities (Child Safety
Services) [2011] QCAT 725
PARTIES: FA
(Applicant)
v
Department Of Communities (Child Safety
Services)
(Respondent)
APPLICATION NUMBER: CML004-11
MATTER TYPE: Childrens matters
HEARING DATE: 14 July 2011
HEARD AT: Brisbane
DECISION OF: Hon R J Bulley, Presiding Member
Elizabeth Benson-Stott, Member
Professor Adrian Ashman, Member
DELIVERED ON: 14 July 2011
DELIVERED AT: Brisbane
ORDERS MADE: That the Decision of the Department of
Communities (Child Safety Services) to
restrict or refuse to allow contact between
the applicant and his stepchild be
confirmed.
CATCHWORDS: ADMINISTRATIVE LAW – a review of the
decision to restrict or refuse to allow contact
between the applicant and his stepchild – where
the Queensland Civil and Administrative
Tribunal interviewed the child privately – where
the Tribunal relied on the expressed wishes of
the child in making its decision
FAMILY LAW AND CHILD WELFARE – CHILD
WELFARE OTHER THAN UNDER FAMILY
LAW ACT 1975 – OTHER MATTERS – where
provisions of Queensland Civil and
Administrative Act 2009 considered
Child Protection Act 1999, ss 4, 5(1), 5(2), 5A-
5E inclusive, 87
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Queensland Civil and Administrative Tribunal
Act 2009, Div 3 of Part 1 of Chapter 2
APPEARANCES and REPRESENTATION (if any):
APPLICANT: The applicant appeared on his own behalf
RESPONDENT: Jeanette Mackintosh assisted by Janine Erb
appeared for the respondent
REASONS FOR DECISION
History of the Application
[1] This is the hearing of the application filed by the applicant FA to review the
decision made by Thuringowa Child Safety Centre to restrict contact
between his stepchild NM and himself. This decision was made orally on
24 September 2010 and confirmed in writing on 28 February 2011.
[2] NM was born in February 1998 and so is approaching 13 1/2 years of age.
Her natural mother is FS. FA began living with FS in 1999. At this time FS
was expecting the child FH. FH was born in October 2000 and is therefore
approaching 11 years of age. FA is the stepfather of FH. FA and FS
subsequently intermarried.
[3] NM, and after her birth FH, lived with FA and FS.
[4] Pursuant to the provisions of the Child Protection Act 1999 (the CP Act)
NM and FH were removed from FA and FS in October 2002 and placed in
foster care. On 5 February 2003 these children were placed with
Departmentally approved carers a Mr and Mrs CC. The children have
remained in their care ever since. At all material times Mr and Mrs CC have
lived with the children in north Queensland. FA and FS have resided in
Brisbane.
[5] On 24 October 2007 the Childrens Court in Townsville made child
protection orders under the CP Act in respect of NM and FH granting long
term guardianship of each child to the Chief Executive, those orders to
continue in force until each child respectively turns 18 years.
[6] In recent years in particular, FA and FS have had supervised contact with
NM and FH. This has consisted of telephone contact fortnightly, and face
to face visits in Townsville for 2 hours on 4 occasions annually during
school holiday periods.
[7] On 24 September 2010 a scheduled face to face visit took place in
Townsville. This visit was cut short by Departmental staff and later that day
information was provided orally to FA that all future contact between NM
and himself, including telephone contact, would be refused.
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[8] As a result there has been no further contact between NM and FA save for
one occasion of supervised telephone contact. This occurred on
9 December 2010 with NM’s consent.
[9] On 6 January 2011 the Queensland Civil and Administrative Tribunal (the
Tribunal) received FA’s Application to Review the Department’s decision to
refuse contact between NM and himself.
[10] The hearing of the review application took place before the Tribunal in
Brisbane on 14 July 2011. At the conclusion of the hearing the Tribunal
reserved its decision.
Legislative Background
[11] The decision under review was made pursuant to the provisions of the CP
Act. The purpose of that Act as expressed in section 4 is to provide for the
protection of children. A key provision is section 5A. This section provides
that the Act is to be administered under the principle that the safety,
wellbeing, welfare and best interests of a child are paramount. Sections 5B
to 5E inclusive set out further principles requiring adherence. The
provisions of section 5E which relate to Obtaining child’s views are
particularly relevant in this review.
[12] Section 87 of the CP Act relevantly states as follows:
(1) The chief executive must provide opportunity for contact between the child
and the child’s parents and appropriate members of the child’s family as often
as is appropriate in the circumstances.
(2) However, the chief executive may refuse to allow, or restrict or impose
conditions on, contact between the child and the child’s parents or members of
the child’s family, if the chief executive is satisfied it is in the child’s best
interests to do so…
It is pursuant to this provision that the Department of Communities (Child
Safety Services) (the Department) made the decision under review in this
case.
[13] Division 3 of Part 1 of Chapter 2 of the Queensland Civil and Administrative
Act 2009 (the Act) sets out the legislative provisions governing the
Tribunal’s exercise of its review jurisdiction. The subject decision in this
instance is a reviewable decision as defined.
Historical Factual Background
[14] The Tribunal does not propose to canvass in detail the history of this
matter. It is unproductive to dwell too much on the negative features of the
past. The issues in this review are confined to a quite narrow compass.
[15] Written statements were provided by a number of Departmental witnesses.
Two of these witnesses were not required to provide oral testimony. The
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other witnesses supplied oral evidence by telephone link from Townsville.
In addition Jeanette Mackintosh the Manager of Thuringowa Child Safety
Service Centre gave face to face evidence at the hearing.
[16] Julia Hirning Community Visitor did not supply a written statement. She
provided oral evidence by telephone from Townsville. She stated that she
had been carrying out her role with NM and FH since late 2007. She said
that in early 2009 NM first mentioned to her that she was unhappy having
contact with FA, saying that she found it an uncomfortable experience.
Julia said that NM continued to raise this matter with her consistently
thereafter. She said that the matter came to a head in September 2009
when NM stated that she was quite unhappy with contact with FA and that
she did not feel safe in his presence.
[17] Julia said that after a visit with FA in July 2010 NM stated that she was
given inappropriate information by FA about an alleged rape that FS had
endured whilst in care, inferring that that could happen to NM in her current
care. This information had not pleased NM.
[18] NM further told Julia that she had found FA’s conduct at the visit in
September 2010 as embarrassing and inappropriate.
[19] Julia described NM as a bright, happy young lady generally, that she is
open, that she enjoys her friends, that she likes where she lives, loves
school, and loves cooking.
[20] The Tribunal was impressed by Julia’s presentation, and considered her to
be clearly independent and objective.
[21] LT provided a written statement but was not required for cross-
examination. The Tribunal accepts the content of her written statement.
Thus NM has consistently maintained her decision not to have contact with
FA.
[22] Danielle Baldwin was the Child Safety Officer who was in charge of the
supervision of contact on 24 September 2010. Danielle was cross-
examined on her written statement. She provided evidence as to the
events that occurred on that date, events which she later relayed to her
Team Leader Carolyn Travers. These were events which apparently upset
NM.
[23] When he gave evidence FA provided a somewhat different version of the
events of 24 September 2010. However he did not deny his reference to
FH as having only one mother, his pulling out a tape recorder, and his
trying to keep FH from leaving with Danielle. He did not disagree that he
may have bumped Danielle on the shoulder.
[24] There were consistencies in the substance of FA’s and Danielle’s evidence
as to the sequence of events despite the fact that FA’s interpretation was
somewhat different from Danielle’s version of events.
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[25] The Tribunal accepts the uncontested evidence supplied by Carolyn
Travers, and the oral testimony of Jeanette Mackintosh.
[26] Carolyn Seri, psychologist, provided a social assessment report dated
15 November 2010 in relation to NM and FA. Carolyn also supplied oral
testimony. The Tribunal accepts the content of the report, as amended at
the hearing, and Carolyn’s oral evidence. She corroborated the assertion
that NM did not want contact with FA, and that there was no evidence that
NM was being influenced in any way in her decision.
[27] Carolyn expressed the opinion that if NM were forced to have contact with
FA against her will it was likely she would act out, there would be mood
disturbances, there would be anxiety, and I would be concerned for her
emotional well being.
[28] In her report Carolyn did not supply any recommendations as to how the
relationship between NM and FA might be repaired. However whilst not
suggesting any contact at this stage she thought that in time and with the
co-operation of the Department FA might try writing to NM: she
emphasised the need for FA to respect NM and to be positive about her
and her life.
[29] FS gave short oral evidence before the Tribunal before acting in the role of
FA’s support person. She presented as a pleasant person who loves the
girls very much. She said that NM was a straight A student. Whilst she is
supportive of FA the Tribunal questioned her ability to control and contain
FA’s propensity to make insensitive and inappropriate remarks whenever
he wished to do so.
[30] FA represented himself throughout the hearing. On a number of occasions
he was loud, and expressed considerable negativity toward the Department
and the CCs. He persisted in this approach during his oral testimony
saying that he had held these views for a very long time. His demeanour
coloured his evidence, which included many unsubstantiated allegations.
[31] FA presented himself at the Tribunal as a loud, gruff, bombastic, self
opinionated, domineering, and insensitive individual. It was difficult for the
tribunal to see how his behaviour and demeanour would encourage an
intelligent 13 year old girl to respond positively toward him. He seems to
have learnt nothing from his contact experiences. How he could expect a
13 year old girl to respond happily to his sort of approach beggars belief.
This is a girl who he describes as smart and intelligent. He said that he
accepts that their relationship has broken down and needs repair.
[32] FA told the Tribunal that NM is scared in [the place she lives] and asserted
that she is being coerced to refuse contact even though he admits there is
no evidence to support this contention.
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[33] FA said that he was prepared to work with the Department to repair his
relationship with NM.
The Tribunal’s Interview with NM
[34] At the outset of the hearing the Tribunal interviewed NM by video link with
Townsville. This interview occurred at NM’s request. She had an
independent support person by her side. None of the parties attended the
interview. Only the Tribunal members were present in the hearing room.
NM’s support person gave no evidence and spoke only when the Tribunal
was thanking NM and the support person for their attendance.
[35] After the interview with NM had concluded the Tribunal informed the parties
that NM had told them that she did not want any form of contact with FA.
[36] NM made a deep impression on the Tribunal. She presented as a very
mature young woman for her age. She is clearly intelligent. She was well
presented and well groomed. She said that she does well at school, that
she is happy at school, has friends at school and out of school, and is
happy in her local community. She impressed as a confident, sensible,
open, vivacious, and assertive person. She is ambitious with career
objectives and stated that she was very happy in her home life and with the
CCs.
[37] NM made it abundantly plain that she did not wish to resume any form of
contact with FA. She gave acceptable reasons for this attitude.
Conclusions
[38] The Tribunal is obliged by legislation to take many factors into account in
determining this matter. However in this instance the overwhelming issue
is NM’s expressed wish. The Tribunal is satisfied that she is of an age,
maturity, and intelligence to make such a wish, a wish she has held
constant for the past 2 years. This wish is well considered, has not been
influenced by inappropriate means, and is consistent with her well being. It
would not be in her best interests to oblige her to have contact with FA.
The Tribunal is satisfied that it is in her best interests to refuse contact with
FA.
[39] If FA wishes to repair his relationship with NM he will need to work co-
operatively with the Department. The Tribunal does not argue with the
Department’s submission that any positive repair work will need to be
driven by NM herself.
[40] The Tribunal notes that NM is currently receiving counselling from a
number of sources. The Tribunal‘s belief is that she is presently in a
healthy state emotionally and therefore would caution against over-
counselling.
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Official source: https://www.sclqld.org.au/caselaw/QCAT/2011/725