Commissioner for Children and Young People and Child Guardian v Lister (No 2) [2010] QCATA 74
CITATION: Commissioner for Children and Young
People and Child Guardian v Lister (no 2)
[2010] QCATA 74
PARTIES: Commissioner for Children and Young
People and Child Guardian
(Applicant/Appellant)
v
Susan Beryl Lister
(Respondent)
APPLICATION NUMBER: APL258-10
MATTER TYPE: Appeal
HEARING DATE: 27 October 2010
HEARD AT: Brisbane
DECISION OF: Judge Fleur Kingham
(Deputy President)
Dr Nigel Collings
Ms Gwenn Murray
(Members)
DELIVERED ON: 2 November 2010
DELIVERED AT: Brisbane
ORDERS MADE: 1. The decision of the Tribunal in
application number CSR002-06 made on
23 August 2010 is stayed pending the
outcome of the appeal.
2. The Applicant must file in the Tribunal
and deliver to the Respondent
submissions in support of the appeal by
4:00pm 19 November 2010.
3. If the Applicant wishes to object to the
Tribunal considering any of the material
attached to the submissions made by the
Respondent on the stay application, the
Applicant must file in the Tribunal and
deliver to the Respondent submissions
identifying the material objected to by
4:00pm 19 November 2010.
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4. Both parties must file in the Tribunal and
deliver to each other a list of those
documents from the file CSR002-06 that
they wish the Tribunal to consider in the
appeal by 4.00pm 19 November 2010.
5. The Respondent must file in the Tribunal
and deliver to the Applicant her
Response to the Applicant’s submissions
in relation to the Appeal by 4:00pm
29 November 2010.
6. The appeal is listed for Hearing at
Brisbane on 1 December 2010 at
1:30pm.
CATCHWORDS : APPEAL – APPLICATION TO STAY
DECISION SUBJECT TO APPEAL –
principles that apply where decision made
pursuant to a protective jurisdiction
Cook’s Construction P/L v Stork Food
Systems Aust Pty Ltd [2008] QCA 322 Applied
Legal Services Commission v Baker (No 1)
[2005] QCA 482 Applied
McKee v McKee [1951] AC 352 Applied
Robb v Law Society of ACT No ACT 634 of 96
unreported Cited
Commission for Children and Young People
and Child Guardian Act 2000 s 155, 354(2)(a)
Queensland Civil and Administrative Tribunal
Act 2009 ss 145(2),(3)
Queensland Civil and Administrative Tribunal
Rules 2009 Rule 53(2)
APPEARANCES and REPRESENTATION (if any):
APPLICANT : Mr Capper for the Commissioner
RESPONDENT: Ms Lister represented herself
REASONS FOR DECISION
[1] The Commissioner for Children and Young People and Child Guardian
(the Commissioner) issued a negative notice to Ms Lister on her
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application for a positive notice (blue card) 1 . A blue card is required to
work in certain occupations or to fulfil certain duties, broadly described
as child related.
[2] In brief, the Commissioner refused Ms Lister’s application because she
had been convicted of three offences against children and had been
charged with a large number of other offences against children. The
offences Ms Lister was convicted of were one count of deprivation of
liberty and two of common assault.
[3] The children involved were particularly vulnerable, One, aged between 6
and 9 during the charged period, was severely autistic. Ms Lister was
convicted of restraining him on a toilet by binding him to the bowl and
railings with sheets. She was also convicted of hitting him with a fly
swatter. The other, who was older, was also autistic. Ms Lister was
convicted of holding him while another person rubbed chilli in his mouth.
[4] Ms Lister was successful in her application to QCAT to review the
Commissioner’s decision to refuse her a blue card. The Commissioner
has appealed the decision and seeks an order staying the decision until
the appeal is decided 2 . Last week, the Tribunal granted an interim order
until the full appeal Tribunal could be convened to hear the stay. At the
hearing on 27 October 2010, the Tribunal granted the stay with written
reasons to follow. These are our reasons.
[5] The Tribunal’s power to grant a stay is conferred by s145(2) of the
Queensland Civil and Administrative Tribunal Act 2009. The
circumstances in which a stay might be granted are not proscribed by
that section. General principles applied by the courts on applications for
a stay pending appeal provide appropriate guidance. It is not necessary
to show special or exceptional circumstances for a stay to be granted
but a sufficient basis must be shown for depriving a successful party of
the benefit of a decision in their favour3 .
[6] The Commissioner’s appeal asserts legal errors by the Tribunal at first
instance, including: that, in applying the law to the facts the member
placed inappropriate weight on certain matters and failed to consider
others properly or at all; that there was no factual basis for certain
findings and that the reasons given for the decision were inadequate.
[7] The grounds are arguable and raise matters of substance. The
Commissioner’s prospects of success could not be described as remote
or fanciful. One ground has strong prospects. On the review application,
the Tribunal’s reasons posed a series of questions relevant to the
ultimate decision but they do not clearly explain either the member’s
reasoning or his conclusions on those questions.
1 Under the Commission for Children and Young People and Child Guardian Act 2000 (the CCYPCG
Act)
2 Queensland Civil and Administrative Tribunal Act 2009 s 145(2),(3)
3 Cook’s Construction P/L v Stork Food Systems Aust Pty Ltd [2008] QCA 322 at [12]
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[8] Ms Lister ceased working for her former employer when she was
informed of the interim order. She is unable to work with children without
a blue card. She has been refused a yellow card (which would enable
her to work with adults with a disability) apparently because of her
convictions. The Tribunal has done all it can to bring the matter on for an
early hearing. The appeal hearing is listed on 1 December 2010.
[9] Ms Lister is a woman in her early 60s with limited work experience and
qualifications. Though it is possible for her to work in a capacity that did
not involve care for children or adults with a disability, the Tribunal
accepts that, in the short time to the appeal hearing, it is unlikely Ms
Lister will be able to secure alternative employment.
[10] Her financial position is not strong and she will be further affected by a
stay. Against that, without an order the Commissioner is under a positive
obligation to comply with the Tribunal’s decision and must issue a
positive notice.
[11] Although Ms Lister has the benefit of an order of the Tribunal in her
favour, these proceedings involve matters of public interest which do not
arise in a suit between civil litigants 4 . The original decision was made by
a statutory authority charged with administering a screening process for
child related employment. The purpose of the scheme is protective. The
paramount consideration is the safety and well being of children 5 . The
Commissioner’s decision could not be stayed pending the outcome of
the application to review it 6 , an indication, the Commissioner submitted,
that the Tribunal should favour keeping the restriction on Ms Lister’s
employment in place.
[12] The Court of Appeal has examined what factors should be considered
for an application to stay the decision of disciplinary tribunal pending
appeal. In Legal Services Commission v Baker (No1) 7 the Court
adopted the reasoning of Finn J in Robb v Law Society of ACT8 that the
following considerations are relevant:
(a) The seriousness of the misconduct;
(b) The likely prejudice to confidence in the integrity of the
disciplinary process and reputation;
(c) The means available to mitigate the prejudice; and
(d) expedition in hearing the appeal.
[13] While, in both those cases it was a practitioner subject to adverse
findings who applied for a stay, the considerations, adapted to these
circumstances, are helpful.
[14] Here, it is the seriousness of the conduct that the Commissioner
considered sufficient justification for refusing a blue card which must be
4 Legal Services Commission v Baker (No 1) [2005] QCA 482 at [36]
5 Commission for Children and Young People and Child Guardian Act 2000 s 155
6 Commission for Children and Young People and Child Guardian Act 2000 s354(2)(a)
7 [2005] QCA 482 at [10]
8 No ACT 634 of 96
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examined. The nature of the charged conduct (not just the conduct
which resulted in convictions) gives rise to a legitimate concern about
the safety of children left in Ms Lister’s care.
[15] Given that legitimate concern, confidence in the blue card regime is
likely to be prejudiced if the stay is not granted in circumstances where
the Member’s reasons for setting aside the Commissioner’s decision are
not clearly articulated.
[16] Ms Lister has been without a blue card since 6 November 2006. She
has a present intention to use the blue card to resume employment
working with children as soon as it is issued.
[17] The appeal hearing has been expedited. The Commissioner’s prospects
on appeal are not remote or fanciful. In the short time between now and
then, the safety and wellbeing of children is the consideration to which
all others should yield 9 .
9 McKee v McKee [1951] AC 352 at 365
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Official source: https://www.sclqld.org.au/caselaw/QCATA/2010/074