Alagic, Re [2005] QMHC 35
MENTAL HEALTH COURT
CITATION: Re Ismet Mohammed Alagic [2005] QMHC 035
PARTIES: REFERENCE BY THE DEFENDANT'S LEGAL
REPRESENTATIVE IN RESPECT OF ISMET
MOHAMMED ALAGIC
PROCEEDING
NO:
0164 of 2004
DELIVERED ON: 30 May 2005
DELIVERED AT: Brisbane
HEARING DATE: 30 May 2005
JUDGE:
ASSISTING
PSYCHIATRISTS:
Holmes J
Dr J F Wood
Dr J M Lawrence
FINDINGS AND
ORDER: 1. The defendant was not of unsound mind as
described in the Mental Health Act 2000 (Qld),
schedule 2 at the time of the alleged offence.
2. The defendant was not of diminished responsibility
as described in the Mental Health Act 2000 (Qld),
schedule 2 at the time of the alleged offence.
3. The defendant is fit for trial.
4. The proceeding for the alleged offence is to be
continued according to law.
CATCHWORDS: MENTAL HEALTH – DECLARATION OR FINDING OF
MENTAL ILLNESS OR INCAPACITY – where defendant
charged with murder - where evidence that the defendant was
intoxicated - where examining psychiatrists disagreed as to
whether the defendant was suffering from schizophrenia at
the time of the alleged offence - whether the defendant had
psychotic symptoms at the time of the alleged offence so as
to deprive him of the capacity to understand what he was
doing, or the capacity of control, or the capacity to know that
he ought not do the act pursuant to the Criminal Code, s 27 -
whether the defendant’s behaviour was attributable to
intoxication - whether the defendant was fit for trial
Criminal Code (Qld), s 27, 304A
Mental Health Act 2000 (Qld), schedule 2
COUNSEL: Mr D Shepherd for the defendant
Mr J Tate for the Director of Mental Health
Mr P Rutledge for the Director of Public Prosecutions
SOLICITORS: Legal Aid Queensland for the defendant
The Crown Solicitor for the Director of Mental Health
The Director of Public Prosecutions
[1] HOLMES J: Mr Alagic faces a charge of murder, of Mr Kay, allegedly committed
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on 25 August 2003. The circumstances of the killing of Mr Kay were these: The
two were both occupants of units in what seems to have been a hostel style
accommodation. There was an altercation between the two of them that followed
Mr Alagic’s having abused the deceased and his girlfriend. In that original
altercation, which was a fist fight, Mr Kay seems to have got the better of Mr
Alagic. Mr Alagic pleaded to be let up and was allowed to get up. He then went
and got a knife, came back, and, it is alleged, stabbed Mr Kay. He came out of the
room and said, "What have I done?" He ran from the building and threw the knife
on the roof of an adjoining building. Mr Kay died from nine stab wounds to the
upper torso and cranium.
[2] Mr Alagic was found the next day at the St Vincent de Paul Hostel in South
Brisbane, around midday, in blood-stained clothes. When police officers
approached him he made the statement, "I fucked up. I'm fucked." At another point
he asked another police officer how bad Mr Kay was. He said, "Did I fucking kill
him?"
[3] In a record of interview after his apprehension Mr Alagic spoke of having heard
voices. He said, "I'm hearing voices flat out." He said of these voices: "He comes
in my head. I could do with a kick in the head right now."
[4] There is a good deal of evidence of alcohol consumption by Mr Alagic on the day in
question. A Mr Johnson was drinking with him on that day. The two of them were
seen by a police officer at the Spring Hill Market Shopping Complex. At that stage,
Mr Alagic is described as unsteady on his feet and smelling of alcohol. Mr Johnson
says that he had met Mr Alagic drinking on a previous occasion. On the day in
question he had seen him at about midday. They went to the city. They bought a
six-pack of VB, drank three beers each and then went into another hotel where they
were drinking beer, and took some away with them. They remained together until
about 9.00 p.m. Mr Johnson made the comment that Mr Alagic seemed more
affected by the alcohol than he. Then it seems when Mr Alagic went back to the
units where he resided, he continued to drink with another person, a Mr Breeze,
who described him as effectively "talking shit" and says that he was pretty drunk.
Ms McGrady, who was the girlfriend of the deceased, describes Mr Alagic as being
"blind drunk", although it does seem that she was not in their company for very long
prior to the killing.
[5] There are some features of the incident which suggest that Mr Alagic was to some
extent, at least, in command of his faculties. He took some pains to throw the knife
away which had been used in the assault on Mr Kay and his comments to the police
the following day do suggest some degree of recognition and recollection of what
he had done.
[6] Of the three psychiatrists who gave evidence, Dr Fama considered that Mr Alagic
was suffering from paranoid schizophrenia, but he was not able to form any
conclusion about whether he was suffering from any active psychosis at the time of
the killing. He, like Dr Reddan, noted that Mr Alagic claimed to have been amnesic
for the events but also claimed some psychotic symptoms. Both of those
psychiatrists considered that inconsistent.
[7] Essentially, Dr Fama said, in light of Mr Alagic’s claim to him of amnesia for the
events, he could not reach any conclusion about the mental state that he was in, and
he thought later recollections of hearing voices were unlikely to be reliable.
[8] He considered Mr Alagic did have a mental illness as a result of his schizophrenia
and probably was suffering from an abnormality of mind but alcohol was obviously
a major factor. Mr Alagic had a history of aggressive behaviour associated with
intoxication. In consequence, it was impossible to say that this killing was the result
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of a deprivation or impairment of capacity due to the schizophrenia or any possible
psychosis. There was nothing really to discount the witnesses' accounts, which
would be consistent with a drunken rage.
[9] Dr Varghese also considered the diagnosis of schizophrenia correct. He thought Mr
Alagic’s account of delusions was convincing and accepted that he was psychotic
around the time of the events. The difficulty was to say whether that psychosis
substantially impaired his capacity; since Dr Varghese accepted that the
contribution of alcohol ruled out unsoundness of mind. In his report, Dr Varghese
was a little more confident. He said that the abnormality of mind was likely to have
impaired Mr Alagic’s capacities. But in evidence he said that it really was not
possible to say with any confidence that the psychosis had substantially impaired
Mr Alagic’s capacities, because alcohol was a factor.
[10] Dr Reddan did not think there was enough evidence to make a clear diagnosis of
schizophrenia. She regarded such evidence as there was as unconvincing. She did
not think that there was evidence of deprivation of the necessary capacities nor of
substantial impairment in any event. All doctors agree that Mr Alagic is fit for trial.
[11] The weight of the evidence, then, is really against any finding that there was either
unsoundness or diminished responsibility. Rather, it points to alcohol playing a
very significant part in this incident such as to rule out unsoundness and make it
impossible to say that if there were any psychosis present, it caused impairment. I
should say, though, that there are no convincing signs of psychosis in anything any
of the witnesses say as to the events surrounding the killing.
[12] For those reasons, I am not satisfied that Mr Alagic was suffering from unsoundness
of mind at the time Mr Kay was killed, within the meaning of that expression as
used in the Mental Health Act 2000, nor that he was suffering from diminished
responsibility within the meaning of section 304A of the Criminal Code. I am
satisfied that he is fit for trial. The proceedings will continue according to law.
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Official source: https://www.sclqld.org.au/caselaw/QMHC/2005/035