Bridges, Re [2000] QSC 188 [2001] 1 Qd R 574
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SUPREME COURT OF QUEENSLAND
CIVIL JURISDICTION
AMBROSE J
No S2000 of 2000
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ADULT GUARDIAN (IN RE JUDITH GAIL BRIDGES)
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HIS HONOUR: The applicant in this matter is the adult
guardian who was appointed under Chapter 7 of the Powers of
Attorney Act 1998. He is appointed by the Governor-in-
Council under Section 150 of that Act.
He makes this application with respect to Judith Gail
Bridges, a regulated patient presently receiving treatment
for a schizo affective mental disorder at the Princess
Alexandra Hospital. The role of an adult guardian is
specified in Section 127 (1) of the Act in the following
terms -
"The adult guardian's role is to protect the rights and
interests of adults who have impaired capacity. 11
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In schedule 3 of the Act, which I must say seems to me to be 30
rather disjointed in its construction, impaired capacity is
defined to mean, "For a person for a matter means the person
does not have capacity for the matter. 11 11 Matter, 11 is
helpfully defined in the same schedule to include, 11 A type
of matter. 11 40
"Capacity, 11 is defined in the following terms:
"For a person for a matter means the person is capable
of - (a) understanding the nature and effect of
decisions about the matter, and (b) communicating the
decisions in some way. 11
In this case one of the considerations is what effect on the
definition of 11 capacity 11 has an inability of a person to
make a rational, balanced and informed decision because of a
mental disability of the sort for which Judith Gail Bridges
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to whom I will refer to as "the patient" is presently
receiving treatment in the psychiatric ward at Princess
Alexandra Hospital.
Prima facie one would think a person whose capacity to make 10
a decision is impaired by a mental disability falls within
the very category of person the rights and interests of whom
the adult guardian is required to protect under Section 127
(1) of the Act. I am assisted in arriving at this
conclusion by observations made in re T (1993) LR Family
Division Court of Appeal at 95 and particularly the summary
of the law - common law - to be found in Lord Justice
Donaldson's judgment at page 115.
It is an interesting judgment which deals with the problems
of the sort that I must deal with here. Having analysed the
cases and the roles of the medical profession and Courts and
so on, at page 115 Donaldson LJ states the following rules:
11 (1) Prima facie every adult has the right and
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medical treatment even if a refusal may risk permanent
injury to his health or even lead to premature death.
Furthermore, it matters not whether the reasons for the
refusal were rational or irrational, unknown or even
non-existent. This is so not withstanding the very
strong public interest in preserving the life and
health of all citizens. However, the presumption of
capacity to decide which stems from the fact that the
patient is an adult is rebuttable.
(2) An adult patient may be deprived of his capacity
to decide either by long term mental incapacity or
retarded development or by temporary factors, such as
unconsciousness or confusion, or the effects of
fatigue, shock, pain or drugs.
(3) If an adult patient did not have the capacity to
decide at the time of the purported refusal, that's of
medical treatment, and still does not have that
capacity, it is the duty of the doctors to treat him in
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whatever way they consider in the exercise of their
clinical judgment to be in his best interests.
(4) Doctors faced with a refusal of consent have to
give very careful and detailed consideration to what
was the patient's capacity to decide at the time when
the decision was made. It may not be a case of
capacity or no capacity, it may be a case of reduced
capacity. What matters is whether at the time the 10
patient's capacity was reduced below the level needed
in the case of a refusal of that importance for
refusals can vary in importance. Some may involve a
risk to life or irreparable damage to health; others
may not."
Re Twas a case I might mention, before referring to other
parts of the judgment, where the question of whether a woman
who had a certain religious background and so on could
refuse consent to treatment and it was held essentially by
the Court that one had to look at the mental capacity, the
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illness, medication, in determining whether that lady was 30
capable of refusing at the time.
She had been involved in a bad car accident and it had an
effect on her pregnancy. One had to look at all those
things to determine whether she did have a capacity to make 40
a decision to refuse treatment that would not necessarily
but might save her life.
In the judgment of Lord Justice Butler-Sloss he observed at
116:
"A man or woman of full age and sound understanding may
chose to reject medical advice and medical or surgical
treatment either partially or in its entirety. Their
decision to refuse medical treatment by a patient
capable of making the decision does not have to be
sensible, rational or well considered."
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His Lordship then referred to an observation of Robins JA in
Malette v Shulman, a Canadian case, in the following terms:
11 At issue here is the freedom of the patient as an
individual to exercise her right to refuse treatment
and accept the consequences of her own decision.
Competent adults, as I have sought to demonstrate, are
generally at liberty to refuse medical treatment even IO
at the risk of death. The right to determine what
should be done with one's own body is a fundamental
right in our society."
His Lordship went on, however,
to observe:
in his judgment at page 117
"The question may arise as to whether the decision to
consent or reject treatment is made by a patient who
has the capacity to make the decision; in other words
whether he is fit to make it or whether he has
genuinely made the decision."
His Lordship then went on to consider questions of undue
influence and so on which are not relevant for me to deal
with.
Lord Justice Staughton at page 120 stated the general rule
in these terms:
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right to decide for herself whether she will or will
not receive medical or surgical treatment, even in
circumstances where she is likely or even certain to
die in the absence of treatment. Thus far the law is
clear. The difficulty arises when it is uncertain
whether or not the competent adult, as I call her for
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treatment. 11
And then he dealt with the occasions when it may be possible
that there is not a real consent or a true refusal. As he
said at 121:
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"Further complication may arise because an apparent
refusal to consent may not be a true refusal. 11
His Lordship then went on to deal with this aspect.
"At the time of apparent consent or refusal the person
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understanding and reasoning powers may be seriously
reduced by drugs or other circumstances, although she
is not actually unconscious."
Applying that test in the present case, the patient's
problems on all the expert medical evidence arises not from
taking drugs but by failing to take drugs which she needs to
allow her to function and operate in spite of her psychotic
condition.
Well, on the facts in this case, it seems to me in the light
of what was said in re T and in what was held in a case that
purported to apply it, re C 1994 1 All England 819, I should
examine the evidence placed before me on this application.
I regret that the urgency of the application prevents me
from analysing the authorities more rigorously.
I will turn first to the evidence of the patient's son. It
is interesting to note that he comes within the definition
of statutory health attorney under section 63 of the Powers
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of Attorney Act, on the basis that he is more than 18 years 50
of age and has the care of the patient when she is not in
hospital and who is a relation, being the son.
He is 34 years of age and is employed interestingly as a
wardsman at the Princess Alexandra Hospital. He has lived 60
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with his mother at Holland Park all his life. He is aware
that she has had psychiatric treatment for mental illness
since she was young and certainly over the last 20 years or
so while he has been living with her.
She has taken medicines for a psychiatric illness and in
1997 it is thought as a consequence of the effect of some of
the medicine, she developed kidney problems.
She was taken to a psychiatric ward and put on medication in
1997. He lists twelve different sorts of drugs that she is
supposed to take daily. Her problem at the moment on the
expert evidence from psychiatrists is that she declined for
some reason to take one of the drugs which was regarded by
the experts as essential for her proper control.
In any event, she was admitted to Princess Alexandra
Hospital on 29 February this year. At that time she was
taking everything except the one drug that experts say she
should have been taking. She stopped taking that drug,
according to her son, six or seven months ago;
about September 1999.
that is, in
She has had problems with her dialysis. She started having
dialysis in about January 1999. Her son says she became
distressed, she did not like it.
She used to have it twice a week for four hours to start
with and then she had cut it down to two hours. She used to
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complain about movement in her legs and just generally she
disliked it. She seemed to dislike it, according to her
son's version of events, prior to her ceasing to take her
drugs for control of her psychotic condition in September.
She has told him that, although she has some sort of kidney
problem, it is not very serious; not as serious as problems
that other people on dialysis have.
He has marked his mother's medication, put it out in little
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is part of the routine, and he has been doing this for years
now.
He says then that it was in about September 1999 that she
started not to take all the drugs prescribed for her and in 30
particular at that time she ceased to take a drug called
Olanzapine. She said that her legs felt as if they wanted
to walk and she attributed this to that particular drug,
although she also seems to have attributed it, partly at
least at other times, to the dialysis that she was
receiving.
Well, her son tried to persuade the patient to keep going
with dialysis but she told him that she was tired of it; it
upset her too much. The first time she refused to continue
with her dialysis, which she had started in January 1999,
was November 1999. She was then admitted to the renal ward
of the hospital and was regulated under the Mental Health
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Act and she was in hospital on that occasion for a couple of
weeks.
Eventually, she bargained with the hospital authorities and
said she would go back for dialysis if they would let her go 10
back for two hours a day, three days a week and she did this
for some time.
However, on 26 February 2000, she stayed for dialysis for
only one hour and on 29 February she phoned up the hospital
and said that she would not be coming back for more
dialysis. She was eventually admitted to the psychiatric
ward where she was examined by Doctors Leong and Schneider
and they tried to persuade her to have dialysis.
She refused to consent and her son, being her statutory
health attorney, was not prepared to override his mother's
wishes. He thought that she seemed to be able to discuss
matters with him adequately and he tried to talk her into
c.ontinuing on with dialysis but she simply declined and he
said he thought she had the capacity to make her own
decision.
I must say, having watched her give evidence and answer
questions, she would impress one from what she says and the
way she says it that she does have a capacity to make a
decision. However, to come to that conclusion would
disregard entirely the expert evidence of the psychiatrists
who have been treating her and I will go to that shortly.
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Her son said that he did not notice any difference in her
behaviour or attitudes or thought patterns since she stopped
taking the drug to which I have referred, six or seven
months ago.
The patient herself was called to give evidence. She after
all is the one who has declined to continue on with the
dialysis. She explained that she stopped taking the drugs
prescribed for her by the psychiatrist, people at the
Princess Alexandra Hospital, because she thought she was
having side effects and she worked this out from reading a
pamphlet that she apparently found in the box containing the
pills.
She said she did not like having it every night so she
stopped taking the tablet and she observed it was not doing
her any good anyway. Then she said that with respect to her
kidney situation, she didn't think she had a kidney problem
anyway.
However, she agreed that she had been told that the dialysis
was supposed to clean out her blood and that she understood
that if she continues to refuse to have dialysis, she will
die, and she said she has chosen not to continue on with the
dialysis knowing that she will die; that she would rather
die than stay on the dialysis because she doesn't like
anything about that treatment at all. She said it is not a
painful treatment and that her problem is that instead of
improving her health it makes her feel worse and she comes
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home sick after having it. She said she used to go home and
vomit after it. She said it is a bit uncomfortable
receiving the treatment but it does not cause any pain.
She said she was sorry she had told anybody that she had 10
stopped taking the psychotic medicine because she did not
think it was doing her any good anyway and she attributes
the problems that she has to face on this application as
resulting from the fact that she told her doctors that she
had stopped taking this particular drug.
She said she really would rather die than have to put up
with dialysis again and that she had even paid for her
funeral so that she would be ready to go. She advised that
she used to hear voices from time to time and she concluded
that it was God speaking to her and telling her to come up
there. She has persuaded herself that it was not a
delusion, that it was God talking to her and it was only
God's voice that she could hear and not the voice of anybody
else.
She summed up her approach by saying that she thought she
was sensible enough to have the right to make her own
decisions, whether she lived or died. She said, "I don't
think anybody has got the right to make that decision for me
at all." She said she had seen the medical reports, or a
couple of them, that were placed before me. It was pointed
out that the psychiatric evidence, expert evidence, was to
the effect that her ability to make sound judgments had been
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diminished because she had not been taking proper treatment
for her psychotic condition. She said she disagreed with
that in effect. Well, that was her evidence.
So, there is the evidence from the patient and her son. I
must now, I think, turn to the evidence of persons concerned
with her welfare far removed from the family. Robyn Therese
Albury is the deputy adult guardian and she visited the
patient at Princess Alexandra Hospital on 4 March, 2000;
last Saturday. She is trained in interviewing people with
impaired capacities. She went out there to see whether she
should, as she was entitled to do, give a statutory
authority to have this dialysis treatment given to the
patient over her objection. She went there to see whether
the patient showed minimal or no understanding of what
dialysis involved and why it was required.
She said that the patient was unable to identify
specifically what she didn 1 t like about dialysis. She said
that the patient told her that she had not been taking her
drugs for her mental illness for seven or eight months and
it did not make much difference to her behaviour if she did
take them. She said that the doctors had informed her that
her kidneys had shrunk and that she needed dialysis but she
was not sure whether that was right or not.
Ms Albury asked the patient directly what she thought would
happen if she did not have dialysis and the patient said
that she would die. She said that she had previously
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refused dialysis but had changed her mind because of her
son, but she had now decided that she wanted to die because,
"There was nothing here any more," and she did not like what
was happening in the world.
Ms Albury came to the conclusion, unsurprisingly perhaps,
that the patient's inconsistent and irrational approach to
her medical condition indicated that she did not have
capacity to refuse treatment and that in fact at that stage
her objection could have been over ridden under Section 92
of the Powers of Attorney Act. She talked to other doctors
at the hospital and concluded that it was not so urgent as
to cause her to override the objection and the treatment
could wait until Monday morning. Well, it is now Tuesday
morning. She informed the doctor that if consent was
required for urgent dialysis over the weekend she was
prepared to give it.
Lyn Barrett is a senior legal officer of the Office of the
Adult Guardian. She interviewed the patient on Friday
afternoon, 3 February, and spoke to her in the presence of
her son, John. It lasted for a couple of hours and the
first thing the patient said to Ms Barrett was that she did
not think that she needed dialysis and she did not think
that she had a renal problem. The patient was informed of
the view of Dr Leon and the patient said she had had one
injection for her mental illness and that she would not have
it any more because it made her twitch.
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She also said that she did not want to take the medication
orally either. She did not want any medication at all.
Well, there was a discussion about the reasons why she
didn't like dialysis, and I will not go into that again.
She had been offered to have dialysis in a ward but she 10
refused that also. Then she debated whether or not she had
a kidney problem or whether it was related to any particular
drug that she had taken for her psychotic problems.
The patient told Ms Barrett also that she had not taken
Olanzapine for six or seven months because when she does it
makes her feel as if her legs are taking a fit and she feels
as if she is walking.
She confirmed to Ms Barrett that over the past 20 years she
has sometimes heard and seen God and that she had been
seeing psychiatrists for ten or eleven years. She said that
she thought she knew what she was doing and she said that if
she was sent to Walston Park for treatment she would hang
herself.
Ms Barrett said she explained to the patient that doctors
wanted her to take psychiatric medication until they had had
some affect and then she might change her mind about
dialysis. The patient said she knew what the doctors were
trying to do and she was more determined this time not to
take dialysis.
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It was explained to her that the adult guardian could
consent to treatment over the weekend to make sure she
stayed alive until the Court determined this application and
asked whether she would consent to dialysis over the
weekend. However, she refused to and said that she would IO
have to be forced to. She said that she understood the
longer she goes without dialysis the greater her chances of
dying. Then she detailed the mode of dying that she
anticipated.
She was advised, however, of this application which was
heard yesterday afternoon and she said that she would like
to attend Court. Well, she did attend Court and she gave
evidence. According to Ms Barrett, on 6 March, that is,
yesterday, she again spoke with the patient who told her
then that she didn't think that there was anything wrong
with her kidneys and that she attributed the dialysis
treatment she had been having to being punished by God for
past activities and that if she stopped having dialysis she
thinks she will die and that is what she wants to do.
She does not want to go onto the machine because she thinks
there is nothing wrong with her kidneys. She thinks she is
being punished by God but if she does not go on the machine
she will die. This rather confusing discussion ended in her
saying that she did not know how to explain why she did not
like or want dialysis. All she knew was that she wants to
die.
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Well, I will now go to the final evidence adduced, which is
the affidavit of the adult guardian, Mr Cockerill, to which
is exhibited three medical reports. He summarises the
effect of the psychiatric evidence I think sufficiently.
The patient for a very long time has been suffering from a 10
schizo-affected disorder. This has produced hallucinations.
She also suffers from chronic depression. At the moment she
is a regulated patient under the Mental Health Act and she
is held in the Princess Alexandra Hospital for treatment for
her disorder.
She has declined to take Olanzapine for a very long time.
She has been admitted to the Princess Alexandra Hospital for
treatment for mental illness but, unfortunately, the way the
legislation is drafted, although she cannot decline to
receive treatment for a mental illness, she can decline,
apparently, to receive treatment for a non-mental condition
such as renal failure.
He explains that he is making this application because her
adult guardian, her son, has declined to. It is hard to
criticise the son, one might think, for that. He has lived
with his mother for a very long time. She does not appear
to him to be incapable of making a decision and he has not
been persuaded, apparently, by the expert psychiatric
evidence that in fact she is so incapable.
Well, I will go first to the evidence of Dr Schneider, the
Director of General Psychiatry at the Princess Alexandra
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Hospital. He said that the patient has been receiving
treatment for her psycho-affected disorder for many, many
years. The mainstay of the management over a significant
period has been the anti-psychotic drug Olanzapine.
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apparently, she decided she would stop taking this drug. As
a consequence, she suffered from paranoid delusions and a
feeling that life is hopeless and she would be better off
dead.
Dr Schneider says there has been a confluence of the
schizophrenic-type symptoms and depression. She has
incorporated, according to him, delusions relating to her
dialysis; the renal treatment has been mixed up with her
delusions; she believes that people are spying on her. I
will not go into the various delusions that he deals with.
In fact, she has developed delusions relating to other
persons connected with the treatment she gets directing
sexual acts and suggestions towards her. The doctor said
that in his view all these matters that have turned her off
renal treatment are delusional based and there is no reality
basis for them.
It has caused a heightening of her depressive symptoms and
she has told him that life is meaningless and she has no
concern about the possibility that she may die from her
renal problems shortly. Dr Schneider says that in his view
the patient is currently suffering from a severe recurrence
of a long-standing schizo-affected disorder. This reflects
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a depressed mood and delusions of a paranoid type. Both of
these major clinical features impact upon her capacity to
make a decision to refuse dialysis.
She has incorporated the renal treatment, dialysis
treatment, into her paranoid delusions and delusions about
another patient at the unit. This, in his view, is one of
the reasons she is refusing further dialysis. Her depressed
mood with feelings of hopelessness and pessimism have led
her also to refuse dialysis treatment because, due to her
psychotic condition, she sees no future hope for her.
It is Dr Schneider's opinion that the patient's refusal to
have the dialysis is a direct consequence of the relapse of
her schizo-affected disorder. Because of this severe mental
illness, she no longer displays a competence to make
decisions about her health in respect of her renal
condition. All efforts to persuade her to resume her
dialysis have been unsuccessful. I must add it is not
unusual for people with firm held delusional beliefs to
refuse to be persuaded to act contrary to those beliefs.
Well, Dr Schneider says that all the medical evidence is
that if she continues without dialysis she will die within a
matter of days and, if she does die, it would be directly
due to the impact of her major psychiatric condition on her
capacity to make proper decisions concerning her health.
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The doctor says she has in fact resume the anti-psychotic
medication, various medications including the Olanzapine and
has had an injection of long-acting anti-psychotic drug. He
thinks that over the next fortnight this medical regime will
gradually reduce the intensity of her delusions.
Unfortunately, however, her psychiatric condition will not
be controlled before she dies as a result of her renal
failure unless she has dialysis in the meantime. He says
that she should have renal dialysis treatment as soon as
possible.
Another doctor, Dr Leong, the Psychiatric Registrar at the
Princess Alexandra Hospital, really gives evidence to the
same effect as that of Dr Schneider. She says that in her
view from her discussions the patient has a minimal
understanding of why dialysis is required. She says that
the dialysis is likely to cause only temporary distress and
the effect of the dialysis treatment on her longevity will
far outweigh the life-threatening complications of not
having this treatment because it will produce conditions
which will put her life gravely at risk and ultimately
determine it.
If she does not have dialysis within two weeks from
26 February she will then start to experience life-
threatening complications. As a general rule, according to
Dr Leon, the anti-psychotic effects of the drug she is now
on only take effect with respect to controlling delusions
and so on after four to six weeks.
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So she has about a week of life left. If she does not have
dialysis then it will take four or five weeks, I suppose, at
this stage for the drugs to have an effect so that she can
make a decision with her mind unaffected by the delusional
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suffers.
According to Dr Leon the patient will probably receive some
sedation prior to dialysis. It may be that she will be able
to have this treatment although I have not had the
opportunity of finding out the details. It may be that
whatever emotional trauma her delusional beliefs produce in
her when she has dialysis can be overcome by sedation, at
least until her psychotic condition is better controlled.
The last witness that - or the last doctor that I will refer
to is Dr Johnson, the consultant nephrologist at the PA
Hospital. He deals with the history of her renal problems.
He simply goes through the history which has been traversed
sufficiently, I think.
Initially in November 1999 after she had been off dialysis
for a while and off the drug therapy for her psychosis she
went into hospital. There was a significant improvement in
her psychiatric condition when she was on the anti-psychotic
medication that she had been off for some time. After that
psychotic condition had been regulated to some extent anyway
by the drug treatment, she then agreed to go back onto
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dialysis. And when she did go back on to dialysis she
improved.
On 29 February, according to Dr Johnson, she again phoned
the dialysis unit, said she did not want to continue on with to
dialysis and wanted to die. She said she had not been
taking her anti-psychotic medication for the previous few
months and she started expressing paranoid ideas in the
fortnight or so before her phone call on 29 February 2000.
She expressed the belief that God was punishing her through
the dialysis treatment which she did not really accept she
needed anyway. She denied she had any physical condition
really that needed treatment with dialysis.
Currently she has 2 per cent of normal kidney function which
is not sufficient to sustain life without dialysis. Without
dialysis she has only a week or so to live. Dr Johnson says
he has treated her or been associated with her treatment for
several years and her psychiatric condition has now clearly
deteriorated greatly over the last few weeks.
He expresses the view that her condition has deteriorated to
such an extent that her ability to see the need for dialysis
has been impaired. And to no small extent this is due to
her delusions which seem to involve the dialysis treatment
she has been getting. He observes that a similar episode
occurred in November 1999 and after her drug treatment she
changed her mind and went back on to dialysis therapy.
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The doctors generally say that once her psychotic condition
has been stabilised and she is then, in their view, able to
make a decision - an informed decision without the impact of
her psychotic condition on decision-making, then if she
decides she does not want to continue on with dialysis, that 10
wish, of course, would be accepted.
The real question in this case then, is whether she has the
capacity at the moment because of her psychiatric condition
to make an informed decision. Or whether she is prevented
from doing that because of her psychotic condition which
will not improve for another month or so of medication,
presumably while she remains a regulated patient.
As I have indicated I find the layout and provisions of the
Powers of Attorney Act somewhat disjointed and a little
difficult to follow. In schedule 1 to the Act, part 2, the
health care principle is defined to mean a power for a
health matter for an adult being exercised by an attorney.
It should only be exercised in the way least restrictive of
the adult's rights and only if the exercise is appropriate
to promote and maintain the adult's health and well-being.
It says the health care principle, under 12(iv) does not
affect any rights an adult has to refuse health care.
I assume that section 12(iv) of the Health Care Principle
only applies if an adult has a capacity to make a decision
unimpaired by a mental condition or a psychotic condition of
the sort that the patient in this case has.
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Under section 1, of course, there is a presumption of
capacity. It is said pursuant to the principle under
section 76 of the Act, 11 An adult is presumed to have
capacity for a matter." That does not mean it is an
irrebuttable presumption that she has capacity. In my view, IO
on a proper construction of the Act, that presumption is
rebuttable. In my view, on the evidence in this case which
is uncontradicted really, that presumption has been
rebutted.
The powers of the Court which I now propose to exercise, are
set out in section 110 of the Act. 110 l(a) says "That an
application may be made to the Court for a declaration,
order 11 among other things "about something in or related to
this Act, or for consent to a special health matter. It is
a great pity that the Act was not drafted to spell out more
precisely and clearly what powers the Court has in cases of
this sort and the principles upon which discretionary
exercise of those powers ought be exercised. However, one
has to do the best one can with this sort of legislation, I
suppose.
Under section 111, 11 The Court may make a declaration about a
person's capacity''. Well, I propose to do that. Under
section 119, subsection 1, the Court may give consent. to
special health care of an adult. Whether that has any
application on a matter of this sort is perhaps debatable.
However, doing the best I can, I propose-----
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MR KEIM: Your Honour, would it just be helpful if I said a
few things at this stage?
HIS HONOUR: Yes.
MR KEIM: I take it that essentially you want Ms Bridges to
receive-----
HIS HONOUR: To have dialysis.
MR KEIM: To have dialysis, yes. The orders that I suggest
are adapted from the application-----
HIS HONOUR: Yes, I actually used your application in
drafting an order.
MR KEIM: Yes.
HIS HONOUR: And what I am prepared to do is make a
declaration under 111 - two declarations, actually and then
order that pending her capacity to make proper decisions
over the next six weeks or so, she should have the dialysis
treatment advised by the doctor - Dr Johnson.
MR KEIM: Yes. It's just that - and my application didn't
deal with this fully. It seems to me that you have to make
a declaration that she doesn't have capacity.
HIS HONOUR: That's right.
MR KEIM: And then you have to make a declaration dealing
with section 92.
HIS HONOUR: Well, I don't know. I'm not sure that section
92 has really got much to do with it, quite frankly. I
mean, I've looked at section 92. I've gone through the case
- it seems to me, I mean, you can try to force it within
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section 92 but I mean, adults objecting, it's got to be a 40
rational objection. It's got to be somebody who can object,
who can decide. If they don't have that mental capacity to
do that, I-can't see that section 92 comes into it.
MR KEIM: Well, the structure of the Act - I mean, it is a
difficult Act as your Honour said.
HIS HONOUR: It's a ridiculous Act.
MR KEIM: The view I took of it was that if you have 50
capacity, then the Act really doesn't apply. But if you do
have capacity-----
HIS HONOUR: If you don't have capacity - I mean, I'm going
to find that she doesn't have capacity.
MR KEIM: Yes, yes, that's right. But if you-----
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HIS HONOUR: And she doesn't have the capacity to object or
to decide or to do anything because of her psychotic
condition.
MR KEIM: Yes, I understand that, your Honour. But it seems
to me that section 92 does make provision where a person
doesn't have capacity, but they have some-----
HIS HONOUR: Well, they don't talk capacity, it talks about 10
minimal understanding.
MR KEIM: Yes, that's correct.
HIS HONOUR: Understanding has got nothing to do with
capacity.
MR KEIM: It just seems to be-----
HIS HONOUR: People with no intellectual - with no mental
capacity can understand things.
MR KEIM: Yes.
HIS HONOUR: They can understand them so well that they can
take very evasive, carefully worked out steps to avoid
things that they don't want to happen.
MR KEIM: Yes.
HIS HONOUR: It seems to me understanding has got nothing to
do with capacity to make decisions.
MR KEIM: Well, my submission was that a person could not
have capacity but then section 92 could operate and I was
going to suggest, your Honour, that you make a declaration
that she has no or only minimal understanding of what renal
dialysis involves and why it is required by her.
HIS HONOUR: Yes, well, I'll do that pursuant to section
110.
MR KEIM: Yes. Yes, that was the - would your Honour-----
HIS HONOUR: Well, I followed broadly speaking. I mean, I
don't mind making that declaration if it's going to be of
any use because I think she does have minimal understanding
on all the expert evidence.
MR KEIM: Yes, on accepting that-----
HIS HONOUR: The doctors keep saying she doesn't know what
it's about.
MR KEIM: That was the view that I understood your Honour to
take. Can I just suggest the orders, your Honour?
HIS HONOUR: Yes.
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MR KEIM: You can disregard it if you like. The first one -
and I don't-----
HIS HONOUR: Well, look, what I think I might do is make the
order, read out the order that I propose to make.
MR KEIM: Yes, your Honour.
HIS HONOUR: And I won't make it until I confirm it after 10
you've had an opportunity to comment on it.
MR KEIM: Yes, that would be suitable, your Honour.
HIS HONOUR: Firstly, I declare pursuant to section 111 of
the Powers of Attorney Act 1998 that Judith Gail Bridges
does not have capacity for the purpose of making decisions
about her health care including care intended to sustain her
life, nor does she presently have the capacity to refuse to
allow renal dialysis to be administered to her.
Two, I declare pursuant to section 110 of the Powers of
Attorney Act 1998 that Judith Gail Bridges, as a consequence
of her schizoaffective disorder, has a significantly reduced
capacity to understand that renal dialysis under sedation is
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outweighed by the benefit to her of the renal dialysis.
Three, I order that the applicant consent to the said renal
dialysis as advised by Dr David Johnson, Consultant
Psychiatrist at the Princess Alexandra Hospital for a period so
of six weeks from the date of this order, or a period
expiring on an earlier date if the applicant is satisfied on
the advice of one or more psychiatrists treating Ms Bridges
that the schizoaffective disorder affecting her is
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understanding of the matters referred to in the second
declaration.
Four, I order pursuant to section 110 of the Powers of
Attorney Act 1998 that Judith Gail Bridges have the said 10
renal dialysis for a period of six weeks from the date of
this order for a period expiring on an earlier date if the
applicant is satisfied on the advice of one or more
psychiatrists treating the said Ms Bridges that the
schizoaffective disorder affecting her is sufficiently well
controlled to allow her thereafter to make a decision at a
time when her capacity to make that decision is not unduly
impaired as a consequence of lack of treatment necessary to
control the effects of that disorder from which she
presently suffers.
Five, liberty to apply. What do you say about that?
MR KEIM: The comment I was going to make with regard to
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that the things that you are suppose to have a minimal, or
no understanding, of seem to be B(i) and B(ii).
HIS HONOUR: Yes.
MR KEIM: And I was going to suggest that your Honour should
make a - that she has got minimal understanding of both of
those things and then make a separate finding that the
health care is likely to cause her only temporary distress
that is outweighed by the benefit to her of the health care. 50
HIS HONOUR: Well, perhaps the easy way to do it is treat
that as a draft order that I have just pronounced and if it
is unsatisfactory or you think it would be safer to put
something else in. I mean, in my view, the Act is so badly
drafted that it is a great shame that in a situation like
this one is worrying about section 92.
MR KEIM: Yes, your Honour.
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HIS HONOUR: In section 92 does not cover a person who
objects who has no capacity to object because of some mental
incapacity. This purports to apply both to people with
mental incapacity and people without mental incapacity.
MR KEIM: Yes.
HIS HONOUR: That seems crazy.
MR KEIM: It perhaps is more suitably drafted to deal with
people who have got some degree of intellectual disability
but do not have a mental-----
HIS HONOUR: Some retardation or something along those
lines.
MR KEIM: Yes.
HIS HONOUR: But this is a person who does object. She has
refused. The only question is whether it is a true
objection or a true refusal-----
MR KEIM: Yes.
HIS HONOUR: ------in the light of that English case that I
referred to or whether it is one which is not really a true
one at all because she does not have the mental capacities
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MR KEIM: Yes. Your Honour, if I could get a copy from the
Court Reporting Bureau.
HIS HONOUR: Yes, all right. Perhaps the shorthand people
can have the order prepared and drafted and then you can get
a copy and I will get a copy and if you wish to you can come
back and-----
MR KEIM: Yes, your Honour.
HIS HONOUR: -----attempt to persuade me to try and fit
section 92 into the scheme of things, even though I do not
think it has got much relevance.
MR KEIM: No, I just wanted to make sure that - I suppose if
anybody else took a different-----
HIS HONOUR: Yes.
MR KEIM: I mean, for example, if Mr Bridges Junior took a
view that he wanted to appeal that it meshed in with the Act
completely.
HIS HONOUR: Well, I rather suspect that Mr Bridges Junior
succumbed to his mother's pressures-----
MR KEIM: Yes.
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HIS HONOUR: -----because he obviously thought she should
take it that he had been doing his best to talk her into it.
MR KEIM: Yes. Thank you, your Honour.
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