Dynevor v Cherbourg Community Council [1995] QIRC 132 (1995) 149 QGIG 275
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QUEl!NSI.AND INDUST RI AL RELATIONS CO MMI SS ION
lndusmal Rela11on.r Act I 990
s 295 application for reinstatement
Jarrett 1 ro) Dy ne vor
AND
Chcrhourg Community Council
f.\o . IJY(J(I of J 99.S)
('O .\1Ml 'NI TY POLl ('E (,\BOJUGI NA L AND
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ArT IIORITll:: S) \\ A RD - TAT!::
CO MM ISS IONER llFCIILY
9 May 1995
rcrminatinn of hnployrnent Disrnis;al Re instntcmem -
l klrn v iour - Coun se ll in g - Suspe nsion - D isc iplinary Action -
Distingui,tung Feature~ of a11 Ahoriginal C'ommuni tv Council -
,\ hem ate I rnploymcnt Offered I crmination "as no; l,'n)a\\ fol -
Apphca11011 Refused
DECISION
.\1r Jdrrcu D)nC\or \\35 emplo)ed by the ( 'herbourg Communit)
Co unc il us n Community Police Officer fr om 16 February 1993 10 16
August 1994
His cmplo)mcnt 1\a; terminated b} the Council on 16 August
I 994. 1h c reaso n given being "because of pa st com plaint s and your
n;ccnt behaviour. which is seen a~ detrimental to t he position which
~ou holtl ..
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27 6 QUEENSLAND GOVERNMENT IN DUSTRIAL GAZETTE [19 May,1995
The Council provided material to suppon its position through
evidence from Mr Colin Purcell, Deputy Chairman of the Che rbourg
Community Council. Mr Purce ll also ho lds the position of Co-
ordinator of the Council' s legal se rvice.
The evidence went to previous counselling and suspension from
dutv of Mr Dynevor by t he Council. comp laints about his behaviour
as ;n aboriginal Community Police Officer and complaints about his
behaviour when off duty.
Evidence of support for Mr Dynevor was drawn from Mr Leslie
Charles Stewart M.B.E. Mr Stewart, until recently, had been a
member of the Cherbourg Community Council fo r twenty-seven
years. including fifteen years as Cha irman.
A number of issues arise out of this mailer which distinguish ii
from what cou ld be referred lo as normal proceedings und er the
current Legislation.
Both Mr Stewart and Mr Purcell. but more particu larly Mr
Purcell, have proposed to the Commission tliat there are
distinguishing features in an aboriginal Community Council which
shou ld be taken into account when dealing with t he matter.
These include the different method of functioning of a
Community Council as against the method of operation of a non-
aboriginal Local Government Council: the d ifferent expecta ti ons 1ha1
conslituent.5 have of a Community Council as against a non-
aboriginal Local Government Council: and the regard that
constituents expect council lors 10 give 10 verbal communication
rather Lhan ¼'Tinen communication.
A further issue which has p laced a cloud over some of the
evidence given is the fact that there appears 10 have been a recent
substantial change in the make- up of the Council and there is a
significant degree of antipath y between Messrs Stewarl and Purce ll
as 10 the standing of the past and prcse111 Counci ls.
Mr Stewart appears to have very low regard for the present
Council and in his evidence stated that '' the Council is the biggest
lawbreaker there, you know, al the present time, and, mailer of fact, I
even wrote to the Go vernor recommending they invest igate
Cherbourg, you know" (transcript p. 16) and .. Well. you know. like I
sav. I - I think the present Council is - need 10 be investigated ,
y~u know. concerning money and things like that and .
(transcript p. I 8).
On the other hand Mr Purcell seems to have the sam e low regard
for the previous Council under Mr St ewart' s Chairn1anship. Alp . 38
of the transcript he states "Sir, I - I will say this to you, and I'll say it
10 this Commission, and I'll - I'll say it to Satan if I 'vc got to, that
the previous Council's a very weak Council. The majority of that
Counci l's a very weak Counc il. It 's totally - ifs far the difference -
there's a big difference between that Council and this Council.".
During his emp loyment as a Comm unity Police Officer Mr
Dynevor has been counselled and d isc iplined on a number of
occasions. Just three months a~er commencing employment he was
suspended from duty from I O to 18 Ma y I 99 3 for unaccep table
behaviour and unauthorised absence from dut y. He was later
suspended by the Council from 2 to 16 November I 993 fo r
misconduct.
TI1e leller infonning Mr Dyncvor of the November suspension
also conveyed the advice that the mauer would be discussed al the
next fu ll Council meeting.
By leuer dated 29 November 1993 from Senior Sergeant Robert
Bond, Officer-in-Charge of the Community Police, addressed to the
Chairman of the Cherbourg Community Council, further issues
regarding Mr Dynevor's conduct were raised. These included
further unauthorised absences from duty on 26 , 2 7. 28 and 29
November 1993. be ing seen with young females in the pol ice vehicle
at the local tip with a canon of beer and his setti ng a bad example for
younger members of the Community Po lice Force. The letter also
refers to previous counselling given to Mr Dynevor over the issue of
young females in the po lice vehicle.
Two subsequent matters regarding Mr Dynevor's conduct were
raised. these being a use of excessive force and rough handli ng a
minor under the influence of alcohol in January 1994 and an assault
on Mr Dynevo r's de facto wife by hitting her on the head with two
"Stubbics'' in August 1994. It is th is last incident which was the
cata lyst for the Council's action in tenninating Mr Dynevor' s
emp loyment.
I have been urged by Mr Purcell 10 take into account the
differences between Aboriginal and European co mmunities
particularly with regard to verba l rather than written communication
from members of the community 10 Council members and the
expectation that such communication will be respected as being
truthful and upon which the Council should act.
I have considered this request but, although some regard shou ld
be had 10 aboriginal customs, I must act in a manner wh ich ensures
that a d ismissed emp loyee receives fair treatment and, in particular.
is given an opportunity to respond 10 any allegations made against
him or her and 10 confront those making such allegations.
I would 1101 regard as acceptable any "custom'' which might be
seen to follow a change in a Council where appointees of a previous
Counc il are 1crn1inated hecause they do not belong to the same group
as the new Council.
I was informed during these proceedings that a new Council was
elected in early 1995 and that "Che rbourg docs differ from some of
the other Community Councils because a lot of the other Community
Councils were based around one tribe or one clan where Cherbourg
itse lf is a co llection of different groups .' ·.
The evidence before me does no t suggest Mr Dynevor 's
termination is the result of a differen t group being e lected to the
Council, although it was pointed out to me t hat the victim of the
assault about the head with two "stubbies" was the niece of the
Chairman of 1he Counci l. a Mr Bone. However. Mr Bone was a
member of the previous Council , and ii appears was well aware of
and sup portive of the approach adopted by the Council to previous
complaints as to Mr Dynevor's behaviour.
While a number of comp laints regarding Mr Dyn evor ·s
behaviour since the new Council was elected earlier this year may
not havo;: been in writing and while ¼T itten evidence of counselling in
that per iod may not be available, there has been presented in
evidence wriuen material regarding earlier disciplinary action for
quite serious a llegations against Mr Dynevor.
Nothing has been put which mi ght suggest that Mr Dynevor was
not afforded appropriate opportunity to defend himself against any
of the charges involved at the time.
As to the most recent matter, the evidence is that Mr Dynevor
attended the Council meeting on the day that consideration was
given to the complaint against him and t ha t he did not attempt 10
deny any of the allegations made again st him.
The Council has used two periods of suspension for misconduct
by Mr Dynevor. This seems to have had little effect on Mr Oynevor
because he again absented himself from duty for a number of days
shortly after tl1e last suspension.
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In the circumstances of this part icular matter I am prepared to
accept the evidence of Mr Purcell that there were further incidents of
inappropriate action by Mr Oynevor although there is no written
material 10 su pport these complaints. Howeve r, such evidence
would not nonnally have been regarded as being sufficien t or
acceptable in the absence of \\-Titten or ot her supporting material
relating 10 earlier matters dealt wi th by the Council.
The incident which precipitated Mr Dynevor' s termination
apparently occurred out of working hours in the residence shared
with h is de facto wife. The material before me ind icates that a
restraining order against Mr Oynevor has been obtained by his
partner.
Is it appropriate that such an incident be taken imo account in
determ ining the employment of the applicant? Evidence going to
thi s point was drawn from both Mr Stewart and Mr Purce ll.
Mr Stewart was presented as a person with a great dea l of
knowledge and experience in running a Community Council and
managing th e affairs of the Community and also as a pe rson who is
highly regarded at both local and government levels. Although he
gave evidence in support of Mr Dynevor 's applica ti on he did. in
res ponse lo a question from Mr Vincent, indicate in the following
extract from transcript that it was necessary for Community Police
Officers to abide by the law and set an example 10 the community:-
"lf I could just go back to - you spoke a liule bit about it,
about the role or the community policeman. My
understanding is there 's a need for the community pol ic~
to upho ld the law? - Yeah.
Would you also agree there 's a need for the community
po li ce to abide by t.he law? - Oh yeah. Yeah. we ll. that ;s
why we got the European police there, you know. He' s -
he 's there to look after our boys, see that they do the right
thing concerning law and -· -· · ···
Yes. Would you agree there's a need for the community
po lice to set an examp le 10 the community'> - Oh
definitely. yeah. I think anybody, even the elders, you
know , anybody - anybody should show a example 10 the
younger generation and - and I think that's the role of
anybody .
So ii would follow that, if Mr Dynevor had not been
abiding by the law, that he would be setting a bad
example? - Oh, that appl ies to anybody. Yeah, you
know--·-···" (transcri pt p. 18).
A similar attitude was adopted by Mr Purcell who gave evidence
against Mr Dynevor for the Council and the applicant himsel f
acknowledged the necessity for a Community Policeman 10 set an
examp le to the commun ity (transcript p. 9) .
Such an incident in isolation mav not warrant the severitv of lhe
action taken in this instance but whe~ combined with the evidence of
earlier counse ll ing and suspension and one f~rther matter, raised by
the Council during the hearing, does, in my mind , provide a
reasonable basis for termination.
The further matter re fe rred 10 above relates 10 a complaint that
early in his emp loymen t Mr Dynevor, un invited, entered the home of
an e lderly coup le. assaulted and abused them, ate their meal and
thr ea tened to lock them up and bash thern up j f they reported
anything. In earlier times the traditional punishment for such an
action would have been ban ishment from the tribe, according 10 Mr
Purcell.
It appears that this matter was referred to the Criminal Justice
~ommiss ion but no action has been taken against Mr Dynevor. No
further information was available to the Commission with regard to
this complaint but I act on the understanding that there is some basis
of foci in the complaint as no evidence was sought from the
applicant 10 deny the allegatio ns made. However, I have regarded
this incident as peripheral rather than pivotal in the decision I now
make .
Mr Dynevor has acknowledged the suspensions and the offences
referred to in the letters of suspension. It would appear from the
evidence that reasonable opportunity was given to him to respond to
the comp laints made through his attendan ce at Council meetings
when the complaints were discussed.
I find that Mr Oynevor has been given several opportunities to
rcfo1m and that the termination of his employment by the Council
was not unlawful. Although Mr Dynevor was dismissed as a
Communi ty Police Otlicer I was infonned that employment will be
offered 10 him by the Council in another capacity under the
Community Development Employmenl Programme at Cherbourg.
While this offer of employment, which has already been made to Mr
Dynevor, may not entirely be to his liking it is recommended that he
take it up to assist his rehabilitation into the community.
I decline to make any orders as sought by this application.
RE. BECHLY , Commissioner.
Appearances: ••·
Mr M. Vining for The Australian Workers' Union of Employees,
Queensland on behalf of the applicant.
Mr A. Vin ce nt fo r the Local Government A ssociation of Queensland
(Incorporated) on behalf of Cherbourg Community Counci I.
Operative Date: NIA
Decision - Re instat ement
Released: 9 May I 995
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