Automotive, Metals and Engineering Industrial Union of Employees, Queensland v Hunter Brothers (Queensland) Pty Ltd [1994] QIRC 456 (1994) 147 QGIG 189
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QUEENSLAND INDUSTRIAL RELAT IONS COMMISSION
Industrial Relations Ac! I 99()
s. 187 - notification of dispute
Automo tive. Metals and Engineering Indu strial Union of Employees.
Queensland
AND
Hunter 13rothers (Queensland) Pty . Ltd.
(No. D402 of 1994)
COMMISSIONER BLOOMFIELD
22 August 19 94
Redund ancy Payments - Claim for equality of bene fit - Question
subrniued for Arbitration - Circ um s tan ces fo und to be differe nt -
Question answered in the ne ga tive.
DECISION
By no tificati on dat ed 17 June 1994 the Automotive. Metals and
Engineering Industrial Unio n of Em ployees, Queensland (the
AMEU) not ifi ed the Industr ial Re gis1rar of a dispute between itself
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and Hunter Brothers Pty. Ltd. as well as the Brisbane Ci ty Council.
The subject of the dispute was stated to be a claim for a redundancy
package in respect of seven workshop employees who were to be
made redundant on 30 June 1994 as a consequence of the expiry of
the garbage cartage contract held by Hunter Bro thers (Queensland)
Pty. Ltd.
The dispu te was the subject of several conferences before
Commissioner G.K. Fisher and, arising out of such conferences, an
issue was submitted for arbitration pursuant to sect ion 319(4) of the
Act. The fo llowi ng question was submitted:-
''Should employees of Hunter Bro s (Queensland) Pty. Ltd.
engaged under the Eng ineering A ward -- State or the
Clerical Employees Award -- State receive equivalem
redundancy benefits to those negotiated by the Transport
Workers Union of Au stralia with the Brisbane City Council
for employees engaged under th e Transport Workers
(Refuse) Award 1988 and who are to be made redundant
effective from 30 June 1994.".
The question submitted for arbitration was assigned to the
Commission as presently constituted by Chief Commissioner Ha ll
pursuant to powers vested in him under the Act.
After a preliminary hearing on 30 June 1994 the matter was
listed for hearing on 28 Ju ly 1994. At the hearing the AMEU was
represented by Mr Goodwi n, Hunter Brothers by Ms K. Pri or and Mr
J. Thompson, who represented Brisbane City Council (BCC),
appeared by virtue of an invitation extended to h im by myself in
order 1hat I might be infonned of the redundancy benefits negotiated
between the Transport Workers' Union of Australia, Union of
Employees (Queensland Branch) (TWU) and BCC for employees
engaged under the Transport Workers (Refuse) Award 1988. No
appearance was entered for clerical employees as none of them were
members of a trade union.
Mr Goodwin, on behalf of AMEU, outlined to the Commission
some of the background which had led the matter to come before the
Co mmi ssion. In par1ic ular he highlighted the indu strial action
undertaken by mem bers of the TWU in November of 199 3 which
cu lminated in proceedings before Commissioner Peterson of the
Australian Indust rial Relations Commission on Monday 29
November 1993 . Mr Goodwin produced transcripts of those
proceedings. In such proceedings Co mm issioner Pe terson was
informed of an agreement reached between Brisba ne City Council
and the TWU. and its membership, in respect of claims fo r
redundancy payments upon ex piry of the then existing garbage
carting contracts on 30 June 1994.
Mr Goodwin infonned the Commission that his Union firsi wrote
to the Council on 26 November 199 3 seeking advice on the
Co unci l's position re lative to workshop employees. He states that
correspondence passed between the parties and one or t wo meetings
also to ok place prior to early February 1994 when the Deputy Ma yor
wTote to the Union infonning it th at it should deal directly with the
employers concemed on the question of redundancy.
On 18 May 1994 the Union wrote to Hunter Brothers seeking
spec ifi c infom1ation in relation to the actual employees who would
be made redundant a nd spelt out to the employer that such
employees wou ld be entitled to be paid the minimum redundancy
provisions as set ou t in the Award which covered their employmen t.
The Union also sought the employer's advice as to whether an y
ad ditional be nefits would be paid by wa y of an in-house agreement.
On 8 June the Union made a request to meet with the Brisbane City
Cou ncil to discuss the issue of redundancy pay for its members,
totalling (at that time) four employees, who were to be ma de
redundant on 30 June by Hunter Brothers. On 16 June the Brisbane
Ci ty Council respo nd ed advising .that it wo ul d be necessary for the
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Union to deal direct ly with the employer, through the Industrial
Relations Commission of Queensland, prior to further consideration
being given to the claims by the Council. On the following day the
Union placed a full claim for redundancy on the employer to reflect
the redundan cy package negotiated between the TWU and BCC and
also notified the Industrial Registrar requesting the involvement of
QIRC.
Mr Goodwin infom1cd the Commission th at three compulsory
conferences were held before Commissioner Fisher which resu lted in
the question (above) being submitted fo r arbitration.
Mr Goodwin sought, on behalf of his members, the full benefits
of the package negotiated between the Council and TWU submilling
tliat the fact that th e TWU Refuse Award had no redundancy
provision did not provide a valid basis for arguing that employees
under other Awards sho uld receive standard minimal TCR benefits
only.
Ms K. Prior, who appeared for Hunter Brothers (Queensland)
Pty. Ltd., presented an extensive submission during which she
advised the Commission that in previous garbage contracts the re had
been a transmission clause in tender documents which required
incoming contractors to "take over" the employment of employees
engaged by the outgoing contractor. She fu rther in formed the
Commission that although 1h is had been a non-negotiab le item in
previous tenders it had become obvious during tl1e course of 1993
that the transm ission clause would not be a feature of the new
contract scheduled Lo commence from I July 1994.
To assist in the presentation of her case Ms Prior called Mr
Christopher Graham Tanzer as a witness. Mr Tanzer was ab le to
inform the Commission that of 129 employees "transmitted" from
the employment of Berkeley 's to Hunter Brothers in 1984, 56 such
employees were the subject of the Transport Workers Union claim in
1993.
Mr Tanzer infom1ed the Co mmi ssion that the issue or
redundancy payments was raised in early 1993 when employees
became aware that the tender was to be re-issued and he fur ther
informed the Commission of approaches. understood by him to have
been made by the TWU to the Brisbane City Council, which led 10 a
meeting being held at TWU House on 22 April 1993 between the
TWU and Brisbane Ci ty Counci l.
Mr Tanzer further informed the Commission of various o th er
meetings held between the TWU and the Company, the Company
and Brisbane City Council. and the TWU and Brisbane City Coun cil
be tween that period and 23 November 1993 when the new contractor
for both North and South Brisbane was announced. He also
informed t he Commission thal everyone except those people
employed in the workshop wen t out on strike. Mr T. Cole and Mr B.
Van Deursc. a lt hough workshop employees, also went out on strike.
On 29 November 1993 when the ma tter came before
Commissioner Peterson, the Commissioner was infonn ed that
meetings held between th e Brisbane City Council and th e TWU
leadi ng up 10 that hearing had resolved the iss ue and he was
infom1ed of th e terms of the rcsoluLion of t he TWU claims fo r
redundancy pay.
Ms Prior also called Mr Allan Robert Hunter as a witness who
was able to confim1 that none of th e mechanics. the subject of the
AMEU claim, were transmitted to Hunter Brothers employment at
the time of their takeover of Berkeley's contract in 1984.
In arguing that the question submitted for arbitration should be
answered in the negative Ms Prior referred the Commission to the
decis ion of the Australian Conciliat ion and Arbitration Commission
in the Tennination Change and Redundancy Case 1984. She also
drew to th e Commission 's attention that the reasoning and ration al e
for that case was adopted by the Ind ustrial Conciliat ion and
Arbitration Commission of Queensland in 1987 (matter No. B734 of
1984).
In referring to the Commission's decision in this matter she
particularly drew to the Commission's attention the following
paragraph :-
" ln the absence of a further decision by a Full Bench of this
Commission, it is our intention that condi ti ons more favoura ble
than se t out in the Declaration of Pol icy should not be
awarded." .
Ms Prior also took the Commission to several other decisions
where the Commission had been asked lo either reduce (standard)
TCR provisions or to extend th em. In one of these cases •·
~atjonwide Fjeld Catering Pty Ltd v The Australian Workers' Union
(Print No. 1-15959) -· Commission Sweeney decided not to extend
redundancy arrangements in an agreement covering workers on an
oil ri g to employees engaged in the catering industry at the same
location.
In concluding her submissions Ms Prior highlighted that the four
(4) employees who were the subject of Mr Goodwin's claim were
employed under an awa rd which had a termination and redundancy
provision in it from the time at which those em ployees were
employed; it was their rightful expectation that their employer would
pay such redundancy payment and in fact such redundancy payments
were paid. Ms Pr io r submitted that the si tuation between the
Brisbane City Cou ncil and th e TWU was different entirely. Firstly,
because no such TCR provisions were included in the TWU Award
and, secondly, th e arrangement was one negotiated between the
Brisbane City Council and the Transport Workers Union only.
Mr J. Thompson was able to i nfom1 the Commission of the terms
of settlement of the garbage collect ion employees· redundancy
claims. In doin g so Mr Thompson high lighted to the Co mmission
that the settlement achieved a fundamental change in tenns of,
fi rstl y. the contractual obligations for the future viz a viz the
13 ri sbime City Council and the new ga rb age collection contractors
and, secondly, the relationship between garbage c-0llection
employees and the Brisbane City Council.
With re gard to th e first point Mr Thompson informed the
Commission that the new contract was perfonnancc-based in that it
allowed for rise and fa ll on ly on the basis of movements in the
Consumer Price Index, whereas previous contracts were related to
movements in wage rates. Further, the new con tracts required the
contractor to have an Enterprise Bargaining Agreement and a
number of other arrangements.
With respect to the second aspect Mr Thompson submitted that
in the past the arrangement had almos1 been one of
'"employer/employee" between th e Brisbane City Council and
garbage co llection employees. He indicated that the re were some
employees employed under t he garbage collection contracts who had
more than thirty years service who were finished up on 30 June
1994 .
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In fu rt her appraising the Commission of tenns of settlement Mr
Thompson indicated th at under previous arrangements garbage
collection employees had expected continuity of employment and
t ha t s uch issue was .. passionately.. raised by the TWU in 1993.
There were also long service .leave trust and sick leave trust
an-ar1gements in place dealing with employment transfers which
were concluded wi th the expiry of the Hunter Brothers (and Pacific
Waste) contracts on 30 June 1994 .
Other changes negotiated from previous practices included
changes to service in crement pa yments; lat er starting and finishing
times because of complaints from the public; changes to public
holiday entitlements and so on . All of these issues have now been
removed from the agenda insofar as direct negotiation between
garbage collection e mp loyeesrrwu and the Brisbane City Counc il
are c-0ncc med. Future wage adjustments or changes 10 conditions of
employment are to be negotiated directly with the contractor
concerned under the required Enterp ri se Bargaining Agreement.
Mr Thompson also informed the Commission that the Brisbane
Ci ty Coun cil had consistently refused 10 entertain claims from both
the TWU and the AMEU for th e same conditions of settlement, as
agreed to for garbage employees, to be 0owcd to other em ployees of
Hun ter Brothers/ Pacific Was te . He pointed to recen t cla im s received
fro m the TWU for a range of other TWU members which h ad been
rejected by the Brisbane City Council on the basis that they were not
employe c:s covered by the tenns of seltlement recorded on 29
November 1993.
From the evidence and submissions, as "ell as other material
presented to the Commission, it is apparent thal previous contracts
requ i red incoming contractors to assume responsibility for
employees employed by lhe outgoing contractor. Trust and other
arrangements have covered such employees' sick lea ve and long
service leave entitlements, amongst other issues. Further, it is
apparent that, because rise and fall in the contract has been based
up on wages movements, the Council has had a dom inan t role and
ha s actively been in volved in any negotiations which have
contributed to increases in wages and wages on-costs.
The agreement successfully concluded with t he TWU. and
recorded in the Australian Industrial Relations Commiss i on on 29
Novem ber 199 3, puts an end tO all such arrangements and, fu rther.
puts an end to the direct (and indi rect) in volvement of the Brisbane
City Council insofar as wages and conditions or employment of
garbage co ll ection employees arc concerned.
It wou ld also appear lhat none of the trust and o th er
arrangements ha s app li ed , or cou ld apply. to employees of
contractors other t han those engaged as garbage collection
emp loyees. Addit ionally, none of the four (4) persons the su bject of
the question submitted for arbitration had been employed al th e time
of the expiry of the 1984 contrac t.
, . On th e basis that the agreement negotiated betwe en the Brisbane
Cr ty Council and th e Transport Workers Union or Aust ral ia covering
employees engaged under the Transport Workers (Refuse) Award
19 88 applies to the specific circumstances of that group of
employees employed as garbage collection contractors the
Comm iss ion has reached the view that it must find in the negative to
th e question su bmitted for arbitrat ion .
Persons engaged as mechanics and the like under t he
Engineering Award -- Sla te have not had to co ncede the same
cond itions of employment and provisions dealing with their onooing
cont' · f • 0
IO ur ty o service as have other employees engaged by Hunter
Brothers (Queensland) Pty . Ltd. Jn such circumstances it wou ld be
inap propriate to suggest tl1at the equi va lent redundancy payments be
pa, d to mechanics and others employed under the Engineer in g
Award •• State. On the material presented to the Commission in
th ese proceedings it appears that whilst certain benefits have been
paid to garhage collection employees the reason for such payment
does not relate solely to such employees' redundancy. Other
benefits and conditions of employment previously applicable to such
emp lo yees have be en ·'bought out" as part of the terms of settlement.
T he question submitted for arbitration is detem1ined in th e
ne gative.
The Commission determines accordingly.
A.L. BLOOMFIELD, Commiss ioner.
Appearances:-
Mr N. Goodwin for the Automotive, Me tals and Engineering
Industrial Union of Employees, Queen sl and.
Ms K. Prior, with her Ms R. Johnston, for Hunter Brothers
(Queensland) Pty. Ltd.
Mr J. Thompson for the Brisbane City Council
Operative Da te: NIA
Decision - Redundancy Payments
Released: 22 Augusl 1994
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Official source: https://www.sclqld.org.au/caselaw/QIRC/1994/456