Dawes v Crane Australia Pty Ltd [1993] QIRC 156 (1993) 143 QGIG 136
136 QUEENSLAND GOVERNMENT INDUSTRJAL GAZETTE f4 Jun e, I 993
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QUEENSLAND INDUSTRIAL REL,\TIONS COMMISSION
JnJustnal Relat1ons A et 1990
I I . 37 - apr)lication for reinstatement
l:kris Cbud ia Daw<s
AND
Cra ne Australia Pty . Ltd.
(No. BI of /993)
COMMISSIONER 8 1. 00MF I ELD
24 May 1993
Reinstatement - Te rn1 inat ion of Employment Wheth er employee
t~nn inat ~d ovvn s~rv i (:l?s or w as l.!n11inat~d Rt! l i:thil ity of
Witn<sses - Tem1ination was harsh, unjust. unfa ir - In tervention of
Co mmi ss ion to pnne ct interest of employee - l:klief by empl oy er
t ha t it ac ted fairly •- Arbi t rnkd ll,lallcr Reinstateme nt not
appropriate E mp loy<c!Employer relationship cannot be re-
estab lished - 3 months pa y as compensat i,rn awarded -- Costs
awarded.
DEC ISION
T his is an app li cat ion by [kris C laudia [)awe~ for reinstatement
t<> her position as Oflice Administrator/ Sales Ckrk with Crane
1\ustr alia Pty. Ltd .
Although the app lication for rein st atement was o nlv rece ived in
the oflice of th< Ind ustria l Registrar on 4 January I 993 -·- some 24
da ys af\er "separation" wi th Crane Austral ia Pty. Ltd. the
employe r did not contest that the applicat ion was o ut of t ime and
agre ed that the mailer should he dealt w ith on its merits .
ll.frs Dawes (the :1pp licant) comn,etK~d emp l oymen t with Crane
Australia Pty. Ltd. (the respondent) o n 14 Augus t l 982 as a Saks
Ckrk at its ollicc in Salisbury . The company spccialisc:s in the sak
of "a lws in the pctro chemical and relat c:d industries.
During the entire period of the applicant's employ ment the
,1tlic<! lwa rehouse (lf the respondent 111 Quansland was on ly stalled
by a maximum o r 2 persons. namdy the Brandi t\1anager from ti me
to time and the appl icant. The initial Queens land }.-tanager. a ,\lr W.
worl-cd w ith the appl icant until l11s dqrnrture in Mav 1987. During
t he last six months of this scr\'icc Mr W was engaged on a part-t ime
hasis ,,n)y. usually worl;ing about 3 days per W<!ek.
In May 1987 a .'vtr D was employed as Q ueensland Manager
unt il Jam,a~· 1992. when he was disrmsse d from oflice.
A Mr S. Livy was s<!kcted in February 1<, manage the
()ueensla nd h randt and , aft er ar proximately 2 wecb of
fa mi liarisation in th~ h ead ollice and sou thern branch omces. too h. up
his p,,sition in the Queens land o llicc o n 9 t-.-1:trch 1992.
Because of' the nawre of the company's busine ss the various
hrnnch manag~rs were frequen tl y :1b sent from the ofi icdware.house
\'isiting clien ts al various locations in f3r i$bane. dS~\vhere in the
State. and intuswte . During this pNi,)d the app licant was left in sole
c(,ntrol of the oflic~ and wns n.:::-pon!--ihk for the (initial) liaison
between the respondent and clients. Add itional ly. in the period
b,•tween the depar1ure of Mr D in January and the co ,nmcncement of
Mr Livy in Quecnsb1nd 111 March t he app licant al so owrs ighted the
n 1<1ve of the company from its Sal isbury locat i<>n to ne w premises at
Coo1)ers Plarns.
The duties of the applicant during he r period of emp loyment
were quite diverse. rang,ng from the perfonnan ce of clerical
l'unctions. ope nin g an d cl osing o f the ot1Jce and the ward1ouse and
collec ting the mail to un loadi ng va h· es and crates off tn>cks using the
c<>mpany's forklift . As the ,ipp licant joking ly obser\'ed during her
eviden,,e "I m ight admit that when I '"" fiN<t empl oyed with the
Company I \,vaf,;.n't 1.!111p loy!!d hi!cm1 se of my look$. I \Vns .l.!!nph)y(!d
hec:wse I looked a;; though I could be ,trong enough thai ,! a valve
dropped on my foot it wouldn't hm1 me . I wasn't afrnid of getting
my hands di11v .".
4 June, 1993] QUEENSLAND GOVERNMENT INDUSTRIAL GAZETTE 137
During the period covering the absence of a manager and
includ ing th e shift in premises. a sales representative fr,>m the Sydney
head office was transfr1Ted to Queensland for about three weeks to
assist with clerica l work and th< transkr of st<>~k h> th< n <" loc:,tion.
In January 1992 the husband of the appl icant 1~11 ill and on 20
Febn,ary l 992 was d iagnosed as having a tenninal ill ness. ·111 is was
at about the time of lhl.! transfor of prem ise!'~ and h~fllr~ th~ arrivt1I of
Mr Livy. The applicant imme di ately infonned the Managing
Director of the respondent. Mr McLeod . of this d"vch,pment.
Following hi s d ischarge from hospital ' "' 27 March I 992 tlw
app licant's husband underwent radium treatm ent requiring frequent
transport to and from hospit:i l and addit ional attention fr,Hn t he
applicant.
On 23 July the applicant was in volvs>d in a car accident whils t
commuting to ·work and thi$. c0 upl~d wi1h a d c:1c.; ri l)ration in her
hu sband's condi ti on . caused her to app ly for 3 weel-s kaw which
was granted from 31 Ju ly 1992. In suhse,1ucnt d ,,cussions between
t he app li can t and the respo ndent. primarily Mr 1vkLeod. an
arrangemen t wa.s entered into whereby the app licant w,>uld take 4
weeks annual leave and long sl.!rvil"e l i.eav< in .:td\·an~~ in order t0
allow her to s tay at home to :,tt end to he r sic k hushand . This "a., at
the sug gesti(ln of the responden t in resr,,nse to a ,·,,mmen t fr,,m the
applicant that she might need to rc"gn.
Th e respondent had ac ted in .lulv to engage a Tcmp.,rarv
emplovee from an agency to ~<>ver the 3 ,\ eeJ.: ahscncc lhun ., I .l ulv.
and th is engagement W i\S ~xtended on an "i n ddinit(' .. hasi~ to ...~«.\vcr
the applicant's abs~nce on annunl ka v~ and Ii.mg :,;...! n ·1ci: kav(' and
any other absencl.! . Bc.!cause of lh e ~ircum$lan.:e~ ~,i- th (' app li c..•ant'~
husband the! abscncl! (a nd th\.' engagement o f lh c: Ti:111po r ary) ~l)U l d
not be quant ified.
In the early part o f Nowmba the applica nt apparen ll ~· made
con tact with t he resp0ndcnt to disrnss her !in ure bec·ausc ,if her
~on~cn 1s ab ou 1 her period of <) h sc:-nc...'t:: and th~ t'ac:t that hc:-r long
s~rvice kav~ ln advanc~ was n ~a ri ng ~.\ h ausli\.Hl. f\fr ~kL.:od is
alleged 10 have info mtcd the appl ica nt that s he "1\ ,,u ld he 1,,11 kcd
after, that she had ban a I,,~•al emp loyee for <>Wr I O vca rs and th.,t
these things don't go unnotic~d" .
On l I November the a pplicam's h usband rassed aw ay and on
(or aroun d) that day she s p,> ke to ~ lr Livy I<> infonn lum ,,f th is fact
and to advise him t)f h L"r dl!~irt' to r~turn to wm·k as s()on a~ po s~ihk
Mr I.ivy apparently sug gested it would he hesl to ,~ait a l inlc whi le
before thi: ,·1pp l icant rt!lun1t!d tn ,vork and :11T ~mg<.:mcnt ~ \\ .!re made a
fow days later for th(!tn l() nh ~('t for lun~h t.)ll 18 November to d1~1..."us~
the retum.
At this lun ch.:on l\lr Livv :ipparentlv ak 11 cd th< :1pp li ca nl h> the
fact that hi: had some conc~n1s '1bout tht.!' , ,,ay that w.,)rk wa~ hc"ing
p~rtOnned an d ahout thl.! ,vav she wor~cd " i 1h hirn . lh: also
c,,p lained that the ollice syst ems had bee n changed during her
absence and that when sh(;' ri:tunl.!d th.!r~ W(Hild he:- ;\ m 11 Hhcr l,r
changes in o nice p roced ures and repo11ing rc,1uirem.:nts. ~lr Livy
als<• indica ted that the Tempo rary empl,,~•ce wou ld be retained fo r 3
weeks to help the applicant settk in. to assist in a majo r con tract then
under way and to assist wi th the preparation for a hid 1,,r ,uw thcr
contract. Arrangements we re made t..1 c..),·~r the g;1p h<!t\\ l'.'~n the
'o!Xpi ry of th l! long $1.!rv ii:I! l~a\'i: in ad\'an.:c and thi: ri:•l..'t.'mn11.:1h:e mi:nt
date of 7 December as paid ~id: leave .
The appl ican t retumed to w<>rk ,,.1 '-lunday 7 ))cccm her 1992
and a number o r ewnts occurred Juring that "ech. wh ich k,1 to the
services of the applicant being "severed" later that wee~. T he
r~sp ondent argues that the :tpplicant's acti,>ns 11ere such that she
t~m)inatcd h~r own s~rvicl!s wh il st th ~ applic..:ant argut!s that h~r
Strv ices were tt'nl,inal(!"d hy t ht." r..:spt)ndc n t.
\Vh il st there at'!! manv :_.:imilarit1es in thi.: ('Vid ~n.: 1.~ of th.:
applicant comparl.!d to \!\'idl!,;~e prl) du1.:.:-d hy th..:- tc:-~1h 1od\.'lll th \!r..:- ar-.:
nlso a numb(r of m~jor dis~·r\!p:mci~s.
'The bidcnrc
Evidence was drawn on hchal l' ,,r the a pplic:rnt through herself
:1nd a Mr Weeks (an emplo~·e e of a cl i,·nt of th e rc,pondcnl) .
Ev idence for the respondent was drawn fn,,n ~l r ~kLcod. :>. Is Parh.in
(lhe Temporary emplove.-, from Julv h> the c'UIT..,tll tim.-,) and ~lr
Livy
~-luch of lh.., .-,vid.-,n,, served h> pm, id.., a h:ic~gi\1111al kaumg
up t,, the cwnts hct,\ecn 7 and 11 De,'c lllher 1')92. indu,i,·,·. \\ hich
art' scparaldy dealr wi th hdow . \~'i tlHHlt t..:nnvassing th:H -.:, id.:11~-.: ;n
deta il tht;" following point~ Wt!re dr :1, , n to th~ Comm1s~ion's :llknlion.
Mr McLeod ha d on several occasions spoken to the
applicant ahout her re lat ions hip wilh Mr l) (and vice
versa) and that the poor wo r king rda ti (lnsh ip between
them co ntributed adversely to the perfomrnnce of the
branch.
That after l\fr Livy became manager son ,e compla ints were
made about the perfo m,ance of the applicant and Mr
McLeod had occas ion to speak w ith her abou t h ow
important it was to work along w ith Mr Livy in hannony:
that she had to coopera te with him: and that she had to
comp ly wit h his d irections.
Thal apart from th ese occasions there had b een no other
warn i ngs to ~lrs Dawes about he r perfonnance since she
was emp l oyed in 1982.
Mr Weeks ga ve evidence th at he had for several yea rs
been required to place o rders with the respondent and in
doing so usually co mmunica ted w ith the applicant. lie
testified that some time p riM lo December 1992. when a
del ivery was be ing made by Mr Livy, he enquired as to
whe n Mrs Daw es might rctum to work because "over the
years I had deve loped a rapp(lrt with Mrs Dawes and had
become occupationa ll y friendly with her".
"T o my surprise I was told by Mr Livv that he did not
think lhal she wou ld he retuming to em pl oy ment \\It h h,s
company because of her age . Mr Livy said in effect, that
a perso n yo unger than Mrs Dawes wa s prefoTTed, as a
replacem ent. because Mrs Dawes was too o ld" .
lvlr Week.s als,1 test ified that in earlv December when he
aga in contacted the co mpany he was· su rpri sed to find that
h ,s call was answered by the applicant a nd he t ol d her that
he had not exp ected ha to return to he r emp loym ent there.
He test ified th:ll the applicant su bsequentlv co ntacted him
al home ,,,, the Th ursdav 111ght (>f that we e k to fu rth er
qu~stion him a bout his surprise that she had returned 1,,
work. and that he re lated the ear lier conversation with Mr
Livy .
Mr Weeks further testified that Mr Livy subset1ucnt ly
visited his worl; place and attempted to spcal; to him abou t
the conversation that th ey had had ab out Mrs Dawes f'u ture
employment. with Mr Weeks dec lining to discuss the
matter he,·ause he had been as h.ed to g iw evidence in t he
proceedings th at the app licant had initiated aga inst the
respondent following her dismissa l from em rlovment.
Ms Parkin gave evidence that when sh~ start ed work with
the respondent she fou nd the ,,tlice very unorganised with
110 logical mdhod of li ling wi th dup licat,on and wasted
t 11ne arising because of the systems that were being used.
Ms Parkin also indicated that th e applicant w:is not
interested in wha t she was bei ng shown and that she left
I\ ork at around 11 - 11.30 on T uesdav 8 December
"because I cou ldn't wo rk wi th Beris . I lwd no intentions
of sp ending another thr~e weeks li ke the day and a-half I'd
already spent with hd'. She adm itted tlrnt she had told the
applicant and Mr Livy that she was going home because
she was ill.
The Events o,(MonJay - Decemher / 992
During the cours~ ,,r this day the applicant enquired frnn1 t-.fr
Li,-y as to whe th er s he wou ld be able 10 rark her car in the
warc)mus< (~1r Livv's rnr wa s block ing the entrance) as had bee n the
,·ase during her e mire clHf)l,,yment owr the last ten years. ~!r Livy
,·xp laincd th,it d uring the applic-,rnt 's ;1bsence on leave the procedures
had cha nged and no-(>nc was a ll owed to park the ir car in the
,v;ir~house.
Duri ng the course of that day Mr Li vy had occasio n to
reprimand the applicant for ., negative . l0ud. verbal reac tion to the
n~w procedures wh ich she was being shown by Ms Parkin. Mr Livy
in fon ned the applican t that no-one lil;ed changes. h<! didn't like it any
n1<>rc than she did but unfortunately they had l \1 accept il. I le
ad,·ised her to "s it back . relax. take it easy. listen and it w i ll al l fall
into place" . Mr Li vy sta ted that he treated this as a verbal warning .
Lat er that afternoon the applicant and Ms Parkin we re invited to
mo,·e their cars into the ward1ou.se hy ~1r l. 1\'Y hec:n1se of an
appn) aching thundersto nn. •
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138 QUEENSLAND GOVERNMENT INDUSTRIAL GAZETTE [4 June, 1993
The Events of Tuesday 8 f)ecemher i'J9]
Mr Livv left the offic.: at around 9.00 a.n1. t,) atll!nd a meeting
with a client about the proposed slwt-duwn (ahov.:). At around 11
~ 11.30 Ms Parkin advised the applicant that sh.: was ill and was
going home. Ms Parkin contacted Mr Livv hv b.:ep.:r at th.: dient's
establishment and infr)rn1ed him that she· w~sn't feding wdl and
would be going home.
At around lunch time: on this day the applicant alleg.:s that sh.:
attempted to speak to Mr McL.:nd in Sydney to raise com:ems about
being "very uncomfortable since her rdurn". l\1r ~kLeod's si:cretary
was on the switchboard and the followmg exchang.: 1s alleged to
havt: occurred:~-
"Gav said that she would have lvtr l\kLeod call me alld ,-he
askid me how I was and 1 said. 'Gav, l t~d thlC' wdcome mat is
definitely not out for me'. (jay's W(;rds to me were. 'Oh Fkris. i
feel so sorry for you. I thought something like this might
happen."'.
The applicant claims that Mr l\kLeod rdumed h"°r call that
afternoon whcr.: she reikrated her concerns that the welcome mat
was not out and that she was no long.:r allowed to park hlC'r car in the
warehouse. She claims tu lwve had 1)11IV a v.:rv brief c,,nvasation
with Mr McLeod because she treated it as· conlidcntial and ceased the
conversation v.rhen Mr Livv returned tn the warehouse. 1\lr lvlcLeod
does not recall any such c1;nv<!rsation on this day.
When Mr Livy returned to the warehouse he found the
applicant's car parkect' in th.: ward10use. _Mr Livy agrees that the first
words he said to the applicant upon his return were to the eJled
"vou'd do anything to detj me. For two pins I'd give y,rn a month's
n·otice" He did not ask whv the car was there. The applicant stated
to the Commission that she ·had pur..:hased some perishables and that
she had driven the car into the war.:house so a:-; not to leave the
vehicle in the sun and that it v.as h<'r intention to shift tht' car before
Mr Livy returned.
Mr Livy then gave evid.:nce that h<' had questioned the
applicant as til what her problem \\as: she had Cclllle inll, \\orl on the
seventh with guns blazing. not wanting to tall to anvbu,h: \.\ 1th111
two hours she was cursing and abusing a sysknL and h,· ,aid to ht'r
"Go home tonight and think about 11. Change vour attitude What is
wrong?"
The Events of WeJnesJay 9 necemher /99:}
Shortly after the commenc<'ment of work 011 this da\' the
applicant spoke to Mr Livy and apologised for parkmg her 1.·ar in th;.;
warehouse the previous day and for anvthmg that she 1111ghi have said
or done. and stn:'.ssed the importance ,if her continued empl,,yment
and her foar of dismissal. The applicant then became quite emntional
rderring to her deceased hm:hand. She allq!,<'S that \lr Li\\ said that
mavbe she just ;,needed a little jolt". 1\lr L1vy de111es making tl11s
latt.cr statement.
Later that morning Mr Livv became c1mcerned that \ls Parlin
had not returned for work and made c'ontac:t with her lwm<' to
enquire as to her well-heing. lie did not make cont ad initiallv \\ ith
Ms Parkin hut gave evidence that :\h Parkin\ family indicated io him
that she would not be r,!llm1in~ because her vie\\ \\ a;. "th-:re \\ a;, nn
point in my heing then: to try and help train thi, iady. because sh<'
doesn't want to learn".
Mr Livy then apparently phoned l\1r l\lcLeod in SYdnc\· to
discuss with him the car parking incident and th..: prnbkms \\ hich
had occurred on Mondav. \lr \kL<'od decided to phone the
applicant because "Beris ~vouldn't take any 1wti;;e of what \larian
was trving to explain to her about the ll<'W svstem and lw\, 1_1 \\ oldd
operate a~d as a r.::sult of that I li:lt that I_ had to ring B-.:ns and I
rang her and talked to her about the car pad,mg ~ituat1011"
The following exchange het,,e,.11 \lr !ker ("110 represented th<'
respondent) and ~fr l\lcLeod is rcle\'ant
··vuestion Did YOU makt' ;ill\' indication tu her that he1
emplo.yment was in j~opardv? . No. n,rn,. at all
Qu.:stion Did you speak to h~r 111 ll!m1s" that ..:ould have heen
construed as a verbal \\ ,tmmg Yes. in fact l
think I told her that ~he could take it a~ ,1 v.:rbal
warning.".
The Events of Thursday }() Dec·rn1her /99]
Upon reflection of the discussion with :-.trs D,rnes "f the
previous day. wherein she had mad<' a comment along th,· lines that
Mr Livv had "had th.: busines~ handed to him on a plat.:". Mr
McLeod· gave evidence that he detcnnined to write to the applicant tn
issue her a written warning. Having written the letter he phoned the
applicant at approximately 4.00 p.m. (Sydney time) to inforn1 her that
a privat.: and confidential envelope was being sent via air courier and
that he would discuss the contents with her the following morning.
After enquiring about the timt: that th.: courier bags normally arrived
he states that he arranged to phone her at approximately 9.00 a.m.
Mr McLeod stated that when he explained to the applicant that he
was sending up a personal and confidential letter and that he would
ring her the next morning to discuss it with her the applicant claimed
that she knew what it wa,.<; and that sht' was "being sd up".
Mr McLeod's evidence during the proceedings on this point is
a.s follows:-·-
"Question I low long did Ill general tenm that phone
conversation last. was it lengthy or very brief! . No,
it was bnef. I explained to her that I was sending up
a personal confidential letter. I asked her 1f she would
look at it and I would ring her the next mommg to
discuss it with her, sh.: claimed that she knew what it
was. she reckon<'d ~he'd be.:n set up and I said,
'Look. JUSt read the letter and we'H discuss it
tomorrow after you've received 1t.' I did also refer
back to what sl;e said about Stan being handed the
business on a plate and she ~aid, 'Oh yeah. I'm sorry
about that.' So she apologised about that and tht:n I
as I said, she once again rep<'ated that she'd been
set up and I said, 'Read the letter when you get it and
we'll discuss it th.:n.' And that was tb.: .:xtent of the
conv.:rsalion. it \\ as verv sho11 I couldn't see any
scnst' m discussing ¼hat· was in the letter until she'd
got it."
The applicant ~late~ that sh..: made notes of this c,mversation
later that evt'ning and disputes Mr McLcods v.:rsion or ev-:nts.
The applicant's notes are stakd to he as follows·
"McL.:od said that tht're was a personal letter amvmg for me 111
the air-bag the following morning and he wanted to advise me
ahout it prior to my rt'cei ving it II c said we had come to the
pa11ing of the ways and he was giving me a months pay in lieu
of notice. which would pay me up until the end of January. lie
said I was being dismissed because I wasn't willing to accept
the c\1a11ge~ that had been made, I couldn't get along with Livy,
nor could I get along with D and whv slwuld I nc:ed to park mv
car in the warehouse McLec)d said we had \\01ked the ~amc
way smce \\' and it was prohablv a good icka to have
somebody ne\Y to the ..:ompanv to mtroduce new procedures.
He was referring to th..: wav the oflice functioned relating to
internal pap.:1wo;k and the fiiing syskm. McLeod was referring
to Livy and Parkin's ideas Mel ,eod said he would sp.-:ak to me
at 9 c/clock the following morning after I had received a Idler
I took this phone call in the office. I am not sure if L1vy was in
th.: offile at the time l spoke to \1cLeod. When I hung up after
speaking to McLeod LivY \\as sitting ill the otlicc and I said to
him 'l inder the circumstan..:es do vou mind if l go home'. It
was now 4.30 p.m., thirty minut.:s from knock off time and I
couldn't see any point in staying for thi11v minutes, besides I
was upset about McL..:c ► d di;,rnissing me. Livy said, ':'io, you go
home I'll see you in the morning"'
\1r Livv's evidence is that when he am ved back at the otlice at
approximatefy 4.00 p.m. (Brisbane time) the applicant had packed her
personal it.:ms and :-.aid to him "Cndi:r th.: circumstanc..:s there 1s not
much point my staying" and kfl. However prior to leaYing ~h.:
infonned \fr Livv that Mr McLeod would be ringing her at 9 o'clod-..
the following mo'ming
\fr Li\y then phon-:d Mr McLeod to enquire did h.: know what
wa.s happening. Mr McLeod infonned !v1I Livy that he had written a
letter of warning. that he'd discussed it with thl': applicant and that th.:
letter would be in the mail-hag that night. it would h~ sent under
separate cover. private and confidential. with a copy for Mr L1vy
During that evening the applicant locakd Mr Week~ through the
telephone book and discussed with him his comment earlier in the
week ahout his surprise at her return to work and the comments
which arc alleg..:d to have been made by Mr Livy to Mr Weeks
(above).
7 he h·vents of Fnda; 11 Decemher 1992
Mr \!cLeod phoned th..: applicant at approximately 9.00 a.n1.
(Brisbane lime) to discus~ the conknts of the letter couri..:red the
4 June, 1993] QUEENSLAND GOVERNMENT INDUSTRIAL GAZETTE 139
previous evening. l 1 nfortunatdy at the time that l\lr McLeod rang
the courier-bag had not arrived.
Th.: following exchange hetween Mr Beec who represented the
respondent, and Mr McLeod al page 90 of th.: tran~cript is
relevant:-~·
Question "Can you enlighten us as to the detail of that
discussion? Well. once again the letter hadn't
arrived but Beris had convinced her:-elf for som<'
reason. that it was a letter of termination. she
convinced herself that we'd set her up. I don't know
what that proof was. We then discussed her attitude
and the fact that she walked out the dav before when
she told Stan apparently that she cottldn't st'e any
point in staying. bt:cause as I said. she convinc.:d
herself that the letter was a letter of tcm1ination and
it got to the stage where l thought well you k.now if
that's the attitude. let's go ahead and tenrnnate her.
you know if she t~els that way. That's what I said to
hec we should mutually th.:n agr.:.: tu a tcnnination.
because m; I sav. she was definitelv con,·inced that
that was a letter· of tennination." •
and furth.:r at page 91
Question "And what view did you tal,,.e of that developm.:nt
(leaving the otlice the pre\ ious afkrnoon )'> W cl l.
she did tell him that she would be back in th"° nlC'xt
morning to get the lettec so at that time I thought
that she would b.: back anyway. I thought well it's
just one of those heated things that she's stonned out
and she'll come back tomorrow and on,·<' sh.: received
the letter well mavbe we could discuss it fo11her.
because as I said •11nfo11t111atclv it didn't aJTive on
time.
In any of thost' phone convt'r:,-ations was it ever vour
intention I o t"' r mi n at<' \In Dawes'
employment') No. thlC' intt'ntion wasn't there. the
intention wa!:-n't th.:re when I initiallv nlllg her. hut I
mean as I said, the convcrsaticln just ddc1iurated and
we were starting to go through oid ground about hm,
she felt she'd been st'l up. complaints about the way
that Stan ran the operation and it was just things that
we'd been over before. I couldn't :,;ee much scnse in
going over the same things agai11.".
In his sworn affidavit \lr McLeod pres,·nkd the following
evidence about the same i111:ident·
"At 9am (Brisbane time) nn the moming of the 11th December.
1992 I teleplhlnt:d l\lrs Dawes as arranged lo discuss the letkr
with her linfortunatelv th<' cnuri<'r hag had not he,:n ddi\'ert'd
Mrs Dawes th.:n told me that she kne,, the cunt<'nts of the
letter. \\'hen asked what she thought the c11ntent,; of the letter
might be Mrs Da\\es replied that she /,rw1r it Has a Lctt.:r ,,f
Tennination.
In view of the attitude that she had adopted i.e. ,-h<' appeared to
have convinced hersdf that she was being tcm1 inated. I did not
foe! obliged to e:-.:ph1in lh<! 1:011te11ts of tl1..: ktt.:r any forthe1. and
in view of her feelings. sugg<'skd that it might hlC' h<'tll"r for all
parties concerned if we were to mutuallv tenn inate the
association.
The conver:,ati1,11 co11ti1111ed to dckriorate with \lrs D:mo still
insisting that sht' had heen sd up. as nothing \\as being
achieved and bearing in mmd the comment she had made about
there heing no point in staying, l then \c)ld 1-.lrs Dawes that all
outstanding mon1e:- owed to her would be forwarded tu her
horn e address.".
The applicant then apparent!\· I\ ailed around the \\ arelwuse f,lr
a short time forth.: arrival of the letter. \\'h"°n it diJ not ,11Tive she
left. Before leaving she alleges that l\lr Livv infonn..:d her that he
would send the letter on to her home. l\lr Lin c1111knds that she
"implied that she was going up to l\loMnoka and. would call ha,·k to
pick up the letter".
ll1e applicant did not return and \fr Livy then apparently
determined that the kiter should be sent hacl,,. to head 0111cc hecaus..:
it was marked private and confidential.
The applicant claims that around Wednesd:w of the follnwing
week sh1: phoned Mr Livy to enquire about the letter and alkge~ that
sh.: was advised that it had 1,e..:n "thro\\n intn the \\astepap<'r basket"
because it ''contained drive!". \lr l.ivy d<'nies sa\'ing these \\Ords.
Mr Livy is alleged to have agreed to pass on a request for a copy of
the letter to h<' fonvarded to the applicant.
Th<' applicant also claims that she spoke to Mr }.1cLcod's
secretarv (in his absence) some time after this to seek a copy of the
letter only to be advised that th.: secretary did not hav.: authority lo
send it on
No copy of the letter was made available to the applicant
apparently until around the time of the conference proceedings under
section 11.37(4) of the Act.
The Submissions of the Applicant and Respondent
The Applicant
Mr Stcinilz, for the applicant, presented submissions which were
designed to primarily highlight his client's version of events and to
show that her services were km1inated by \fr McLeod. He
highlighted the applicant's good employment record over more than
ten years wher1: she had r.:ceived no verbal or written warning~
(although he concedes she was counselled) compared to the situation
in the final week of employnwnt wher.: she received twc., verbal
warnings and a written warning was prepared.
Mr Steinitz also asked thc Commission to compare the evidenc<'
of the various witnesses and to detem1i11.: which of the witnesses and
their evidence was credible
Mr Steinitz also put that the evidence showed that it would not
he possible for a proper employer/employee relationship to b.: re-
created in a two person ollice in circumstances wht'rlC' the applicant
would be working with Mr Livy and drew to the Commission's
attention a number of decisions as to an appropriate remedy in all of
the circumstanc<!s.
The JfrsponJem
lvlr Beer_ who appeared for the respondlC'nt. presented fairly brief
submissions in suppo11 of his client~'s contention that Mrs Dawes had
made an assumption in regard to the written warning and, in spite of
being counselled that sh.: should wait tu read the Jette,, acted on
those assumptions the atl',:ct h;.;ing to tern1mate ha own
employm.:nt "and this occu1Ted on lh<' afternoon of JO December"
Mr Beer then went on to highlight some of th<' difficulties
\\-hich th.: company had experi<'nced with the applicant during her
employment noting that she \\asn·t a kam worker and prd'erred to
work within the safrtv and St'curity of familiar and well-understood
\\ork practices even if' they were inefficient. outdated. time-wasting
and a duplication of effo1t.
I k rejected the content ion about a potential conspiracy lo
dismiss the applicant (advanced hy i\1r Steinitz) noting that if the
companv \\as of a mind to dispense with the applicant's services they
could have done ~o much earlier. and more simplv. bv not having
suggested to her to take long ~e1vic.: kave to alkml to her husband's
illness On the contrary. it was argued, the company had shown
every concern for the applicant by holding her job open and by
making ever,' effo11 to ease her hack into the workforce by extending
the p.:riod of service of th.: Temporary emplovee.
1\1r Bet'r th,•n submitted:
''Commissioner. to invoke vour powers under the Act to
reinstate or in conscqucnccs of not being able to reinstate to
order compensation or c.11dcr other cusb. Mr Steinitz would, in
our view. have had to have demonstrakd a specific dismissal
has in fact oc<:urred.
Mrs Dawes in comments she made on that atkrnoon of 10
December. and I quote fro111 .:videuc~ put !lH\, ard by \fr Li vy.
'l'nder the circumstanc<'s th,:re i, not much point in rnv staying',
leaving her work place before the ordinary finishing t1111e of 5
p.m. efl~ctively tem1inatcd her own employment.'.
No alt.::mativ<' submissions w.:re advanc<'d by :-.tr Bea.
It was not contended in submissions thaL if that (primar,·)
~uhmission "'·as ovem,led. the Commission should find that there was
a mutual krn1ination on 10 December 1992.
Mr Beer also did not address the Commission nn whether th.:
tenrnnation ,.,.as sufficientlv harsh, un,ust or unfair as to warrant the
intervention of the Cornm.ission and.· if it did. what an appropriate
remedy might be.
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Nonetheless, the Commission has considcrcd thcsc is'-ucs itsdf
in arriving at its decision.
\\bether employee te1minatcd her own sc1vin-s or ~-,L-;
tenrinated
The respondent. through Mr Jk..:r. conkndcd that the applicant
tenninated her own services by virtue of hcr acti,,m, on Thursday I 0
Ikcember 1992 where, acting on a presumption that a letk,: (of
warning), which she was to he sent owmighc was in fact a dismissaL
she chose to leave hu work place betorc the ordinarv finishing time
of 5.00 p.m. on that dah::.
It is clear that the applicant did lcan: her \\ork pla.:e prior to
5.00 p.m. on that day but what is not clear is the~ time ~1r Livv in
his sworn statement, prepared on I] January I 993. 111d1catcd that 111s
return to the office on 10 Deccmher was at approximately 4.00 p.m.
after which the applicant infom1<'d him that "undcr th<' circumstarn:es
there is not much point my staying". The applicant claims that this
event occurred at around 4.30 p.m. ~lr McLeod claim~ that the
telephone conversation (leading to this statcmcnt hv the_ applicant to
Mr Livy and then her departur.:) ,,ccurred much carlter, probablv
3.00 p.111. (Brisbane time).
In an:-, event \lr Livy. as a person shown in C\ idcncc lo he ahk
to "hire and fire", did not regard such action as the arpl1cant
terminating her services and nor did he challenge (<1r seck to
challenge) the applicant as to why she \\as icaving for that dav
Neither Mr Mcl,eod nor lvlr J,iyy actcd the fullowing da) as if
the applicant had tcrn1inated her servic·<'s with 1'.lr \lei .t'.od ha,ing
given evidence that he thought 1t was "just one of those h.:atcd
things. that she's stonncd out and she'll com.: hack to11H11Tow
(See also transcript p. 96 "I hadn't takcn it that she'd lctt")
Based on the evid<.'ncc Mr Beer's bland contention must fail.
lbere is no evid.:nce to supp,111 the contention that thc applicant
tenninatcd her own services. nor did thc respondent ad at anv time
as if the respond.:nt had tc:nninatcd hcr services ,ln Thur~da, 10
December.
What is clear is that ~lr ~lcLeod faced with a !--ituatinn a~ he
saw it where the applicant was ..:onvinccd that she was bcing
tenninatt:d ~d.:tennined "if that's the attitude. let's go ahcad and
terminate her, you know if she feels that \\ av. That\ what I said to
her, we should immcdiatel:,. th.:n agn.:c tu a tcrrninatiun".
This evidence from Mr \lcLend \\as gi,,en three tttn.:-s in
similar tcnns in thc proceedings. firstly. in the prepared al1idav1t
(which the Commission is entitled to assume ,,as a considered
;tatement made outside th.: pn:~sure of examinatit,11 and cnlss-
examination): st'condlv. the cvidencc recorded abo,·e at pages 90 and
91 of the transcript and. thirdly. in response to an invitation frnrn the'
Commission for the witness to explain in his O\\ n ,, ords "tn,m gn to
wo.: (sii:)" his version of cv.:nts on Fridav I I lkcemhcr.
Ac..:ordingly there is no other position open to thc Commiss11rn
other than to detennine that the applicant's ~crviccs ,,er.~ tennmat,:d
bv Mr McLeod in the telephone conversation <'n Fmfav 11 December
1992 shortly after 9.00 a.m
The Commission docs not accqll that there \\as a mutual
termination at this timc and, 1f it had been argu..:d that thcrc ,, as.
would have ddennined that any such allcgcd ·•mutual term1nat1011 ..
was. in fact, a constructive dismissal.
W<L;; the Temlination 11.ush, llnjtr-t or l;nfait'?
In order for the applicant to accc~s the r.:mcdies a\'ailahle undcr
section 11.38(1) of the Act it is ne..:c:ssarv (or th..: tcnninatinn to havc
been so harsh. unjust and u11t:1ir as to ,varrant thc intervention or the
Commission.
"'!be question is whether the emplovcr has adcd sn harshlv and
so abused his h:gal right that an inkrvcntil,n llf the arhitr:ii
tribunal is necessary to secu,e ju:sti..:e hi the pa11icular cmplove.::
in relation to th,~ ,~111ploymcnt {vhich lie fon11crlv had,"
In The Local A 111hontles (exc!11d,ng Bnsnunel und .\/0111 Noud,·
Etc A warJ -- State (1978) 98 ()(,1(3 1286. Sheahan. .-\cting
President. citing with approval the vie\, of Ban, id,. C..I. in :'.'m1h
iVest County C'ounc1/ v. /)unn (1971) 126 CLR 247 at 2~3
In considering whether the respondent has acted in a manner 111
th.: ,:unent cas.: whid1 would wammt the intcn·cnti,lll (lf this
Commission, ii is ne.:ess;in, to lm,k hcvond th..: exchang.:: ,vhich
occun.:d between ,1r \lei .e~ld. on behalf ·or the respondent. and the
applicant on Friday 11 December 1992 to the lnt;ditv of ~'\'..:nts in :he
period leading up to 11 Decemher. including the meeting between the
applicant and Mr Livy on 18 December. a subsequent telephone
conversation hctwecn Mr Mel ,cod and the applicant prior to her re-
commencement of employment on 7 Ikcemher. as well as the events
in th.:: week 7 to 11 Dcci:mbcr inclusive.
It is unwise for the Commission to substitute its own views on
what actually happened in the instant case but the Commission is
entiticd to rely on th.:: .:vidence (and the Commission's observation of
th.: demi:ano~r of witnesses) to fonn a view as to what on the
halance of prohabilities, actually occurred.
The Commission accept;; the <.'videncc of Mr Weeks that Mr
Livy did stak the words. or words to the effect, that he 1s alleged to
hav~ stated about it being unlikely that the applicant would return to
work. Mr Weeks evidence was positive and cc,tain. On the other
hand Mr Livy's almost rehearsed answers to questions al)(\ut Mr
W .:eks. and his demeanour and .:vasiveness under cxamination on
this issue (and others), cause the Commission to rejcct his version of
.:vents.
The actions of Mr Livv to take the applicant to lunch and to
spell out his expectations upon her return to work clearly indicate
that he was conv.:ying to the applicant that his expectations as to her
work pcrfom1anc.:: and attitude \\ould be much diffcrent atl.:r her
rctum than that which was accepted prior to JI July The is~ue of a
\'Crha! warning on ht~r first dav of return and his thr..:at that "fr•r two
pins I'd giYc vou a month'.;; notice" on her second day ~~ive _In the
Commission a clear indication that hc was probably trymg to give the
applicant "a jolt". as sh..: contends he stated to h"r on 9 D"ccmber.
The Commission's obs..:rvations of the applicant during the
cours.: of the presentation of her evidencc leads to the conclusion that
she is dogmatic and tim1 to the extent of being obstinat.: in
her views. She has had th.:: nm11ing of the oflice. and paperwork.
vi11uallv to hcr~clf for 10 vears and clearlv had probkms coping
with. ~nd accepting. the diangcs which w·er.: going on in i 992
Noncthcless. an employee of ten year's standing who has recently
returned from a period of "f<.irccd leavc". invoiving significant
tunnoil. is entitled to receive some -.:onsideration and a less severe
method of having the emplover's concerns drawn to hcr attention.
In the Commission's view lvlr McLeod is an innocent victim of
the cvcnts which wcrc happ..:ning a thousand kilometres away and he
was forc.:d to re!v on the version of .::vents being conveycd to him by
~tr Livy. Th.: event::. so convcyed revealed a situation where the
compan)·. at consid<erable exp.:ns~ and inconvenience. had focilitakd
th<' applicant raking annual leave and long service kavc to attend to
her sick hushand. Coupled \\ ith this were the circumstances where
1'.lr L1vy (and Mr McL"od) wcrc unhappy with the applicant's
pcrfomrnnc..: prior to her going on leave on 31 July hut were unable
to propcrlv raise those concerns with her because of thc personal
pressures already facing her as a result of her hu'.>hand's krminal
illntc'SS
It is not surprising that when ~1r ,1cL..:od re..:eivcd a report from
l\lr Livv on 9 Dec.:rnb.:r that a .,verbal warnmg" had bcen given to
the appiicant about her work attitudes and comments on Monday th.:
7th: her "v,ilful disobedience'' of an instruction not tn park in the
warehouse on Tuesday the 8th: and th" advice that the Temporary
cmployce had left the.company because of her inability to work with
th.: applirnnt. he would hav.: perceived that th.: applicant nccdcd to
be spoken to Ha rcaction. in which she d"nigratcd Mr L1\'y as
ha\'ing "had the business handed 10 him on platter"_ not surprisingly
disappointed and concerned lvlr McLeod so much that he dekrmined
tD wrik a leth:r to the applicant expressing his corn:erns and warn mg
h"r a~ to the company\ cxpectations of h~~r
What is not clear from the evidencc is whether the applicant
was given th.: opportunity m thc telephone conversation on 9
December which lasted mavbc five minutes to explain her
version of eve11ts or wheth.:r 1vlr. :t\kLeod S()lclv relied on th..: version
which was being presented tn him hv l\lr L(vy as the Qucensland
branch manager. What is clear though. from the general eviden..:e. is
that Mr McLeod fdt that he needed to suppo11 Mr Livv because he
had turned •)Lit to he a valuable .:mployec with many good ideas and
had abo turned the ()u.:en,land branch around. incn:asing ib sales
quite significantly.
The Commis~ion acccpts that the applicant prohablv did put
through a call to ~fr McLeod on "ithcr the Tuesday or Wednesday to
.:xpress her conc.:rns "that ~hc didn't foci verv comfo11ahle" and
probably did have the cLime1satiu1J with \1r McLeod's secrctarv
(recnrded alHn-e).
The accumulation of these C\Cnt,:. namclv: thc meeting with Mr
Livv on 18 November when hc laid dowri his expectations: the
suh;,c:qucnt telephone: call from \lr \lcLeod where he spelt out the
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need f<.)r the applicant to work \\ith Mr Livv upon h..:r return on 7
December: the "verbal warning" bv Mr Li\·y 011 \1Dndav the 7th: the
innocent comment from Mr \\'..,cks that he was surpri:,,ed lo find the
applicant back at work (as a result or \lr Livy\ comments): the
threat of dismissal by Mr Livy on Tuesday 8 Dcc.:mhc'r: tl1" probable
comments from \fr M..:Le,)d's sccretary that "she thought this might
happen": and the telephone call from Mr l\lcLeod on 9 Deccmhcr to
record his conc.:ms about what hc had be<.'11 told bv Mr Livv as to
the events earlier that week. would ha,·e .:auscd son;,; doubts to e:-.ist
as to the security of their cmplnvmcnt in any reasonably minded
employee -~- let alone one of the applicant's age who had re,.:ently
undergone significant trauma
Not surprisingly, the applicant jumped to the conclusion that she
was to he dismissed when she was telephom:d by Mr \lcLcod 011 the:
afkmoon of Thursday I O December to inforn1 her that a private and
confidential Jetter would be forwarded to h..:r b\' courier bag that
night Mr McLeod's decisi,)n to decline to cxplain lo hcr the contents
c,f that letter would have donc nothing to alleviate hcr anxiet,
rather. the rcven;e would have occuncd.
This culmination of events and thc appli..:ant's uhscrvation of
diary entries going into tl1" nc'>-v vcar as to the pcrsonal travel
anangements of the Temporary employee caused hc:.r to sc.::k out
Mr W,~d:s on that evening t,l ft111hcr d1~..:uss \\ ith him his cnmmcnts
.:arlier in the week.
The failure of the letter to aJTivc th..: fnllowing dav prior to the
telephone call from Mr McLeod \\Otild have d1111c 1wthing to help
settle her genuine conccms.
The allegations of having been "sct up", the gen..:ral break-down
111 the conversation, the suggestion that the applicant "kncw" she was
being tcm1inated and the infi.)111,ation from l\lr Lin· fresh in his
mind. caused Mr McLeod to :,,uggest terminating the emplovmcnt
rdationship
The failurc or \lr ~!cLe,)d to alc11 the applicant t,l the cnntcnts
of the lettcr and his s..:izure nf her allet!,ations ,,r ha\'ing he..:n
kmtinatcd to suggest to he, that if that "~vas th..: ..:a:-.: ma,·\ic we
should either mutually agree nr (sic) a patiing of the wan" \\as in
th.: Commission's vicv. a harsh and Lmjust action on hchalf of the
re~pondcnt and one which wanants thc (.\,mmission's 111terY..:nti(,n.
The failure of Mr Lin- tu either ~end the lcttcr on to the
applicant on 10 December alter it amwd. or alter it \\as requested in
the fol),_)wing week suppot1 the (\m1111ission's ,·ie\\ that \lr Lt\'\' was
happy to see the applicant dcpa11 and that hc ,,otild 1wt therefore take
anv action which would cause th..: appli<·ant h1 hecom..: aletied to th.:
fa..:t that th.: letter was reallv one nf ,,amint', and nnt c•ne of
t.:nnination as she had so ~learh ..:onvrnced .. hcrsclf In thc
Commission's view if the applicanl had sighted lhe lcttcr in th..: f1.:\\
da\·s following h.:r tem1inat1on ~he,, nuld. in the ,.:ircum,-:Lmces of her
age and ernployabilit:,-. alnwst ce11ainlv ha,·e again c,,ntacted ,1r
McLeod to attempt tc, rcsuncct thc situation Th.: r.:actiom: of thc
r"sp,rndcnt in not making a copv nf the kttcr avatlabl~ h, her denied
her this ,)pportunity.
!laving regard to thc facts ,,r this casc thc (\m1rnission
dcte1111i11cs that its interventio11 is ,,a11anted t,, prutcct the: applicant
aeainst what the Commi~sion hclic,·cs to have hc..:11 :rn unjust or
unfair exercise of the empiover's right nf dismissal. See
v Bank.u,Mn M.C. (1954) AR (:--.-SW) 573 approvcd in
Suburbs /)1.1tnct A mhu/unce ( '0111mt1tee F f 1pp1ng ( 19~7) AR (;s.;S\\')
273 and cikd ½ith appnn;tl lr•, th.: Industrial Co1111 i11 Re ..~/uuni Jsu
.\Imes Ud A ward (l9"i9) 44 ()(jJ(i 1422 at p 1423
lli,e Remed~·
The applicant. through ~lr Steirntz. argued that the e,·iden..:e
showed that a proper cmplovec cmplover relationship cnuld not hc
r,~ereated in the instant casc. The Comrnis!<ion aerces with this
contention. which was in accord ,, ith the e\'iden.:e .. or \lr Livv in
response to a direct question from the Commi~si•,lll
Consequently. having found that the actions ot' the ..:mplo\cr to
di~miss the applicant ,,,er<' so har~h. unju~t or unfair to ,,,atTant its
intervention. the Commission dctennrnes pursuant to scct1on
II..18(l)(c) that an order und..:r paragraph 1l 3l<(l)(a) ()r ll 3l<(l)(h)
is inappmp,iate. llan11g su de..:idcd the: (._\,mmi:-..~iuo tum~ its mind
lo what i~ an apprornatc level of compensatinn
The applicant has been emplov.:d hv the rc~p,1t1dent "incc 14
August 1982 in a position of some trust. The crnploY..:r ha..., had
some difficulties \\ith th.: appli..:ant a:,, lo her peifi.,1111ancc aod
attitudes but none of these wcre rcgarded as sufficiently sev..:rc as to
WaITant a warning in accordanc..: \\ ith thtc' 1.:,)mpa11y\ di:,;ciplinary
poli,:ies until the week commcn..:ing 7 Dect'mher 1992. In the
Commission's view the verbal and written warnings given to the
applicant during that week were an overreaction to the circumstances
which existed and a direct result of the intention of Mr Livv to alter
the basis of the working relationship between the appl{cant and
himself after her return on 7 December.
TI1e Commission accepts that the respondent showed tolerance
of the applicant during th.: period from (at least) the comm.:nccment
of hcr husband's ii lness unti I she proceeded on leave on 31 July, after
which the respondent incurred significant additional costs and
inconvenience to itself to engage a Temporary employee to cover the
mdefinitc absence of the applicant. Further, on termination of
employment the respondent took action to extend "on paper" the
applicant's employment until 31 January ~ involving six weeks pay
in li..:u of notice -- which had the dT.::ct of giving her an entitlement
to additional superannuation payments of approximately $6,500.
However, it needs to he remcmber.:d that if the employer had
not taken the action that was taken to terminate the applicants's
services this additional entitlement to superannuation would have
occurred on the applicant's fifty-fifth birthday on 16 Januarv 1993.
The Commission acccpts that the respondent believes that is has
acted extremely fairly toward the applicant for a lengthy period of
time and. aft~r the applicant's services were tem1inated, took
additinnal steps to cnsure additional financial benefits accrncd to the
applicant.
However. a further decision of Sheahan J. Acting Pr.:sid.:nt, in
Re. BahinJa Co-opcratn·e Central A!J/1 ,\'oc,ery Ltcl 98 QGIG 1288 at
I 2R9 is relevant to these proceedings·-·
"'!lie jurisdiction in the Commission to order reinstatement
arises.' as I have ~aid in anothcr case. if th..: Commissioner is
sati~ficd that the dismissal of an employ.:e was unduly harsh 01
oppressive in th<' circumstances which the Commissioner fintl<i
to have existed. This jurisdiction is enliven<'d. in mv view .
even where on the faci~ as thc employer reasonablv • believe!>
them tl) he the dismissal wa,; justified. In other words a
di~mis:,,al may s<.'em to be lawti.i and proper and rcasonabk to
the cmplovcr. hut on a considcration of the whole of the
circumstances thc Commission after enquiry ma:' find it to have
been undulv harsh. In N or1h IV est Count\' ( '011nc1/ v. Dunn
(1971) 126. C.LR. 247 Barwick C.l had 'this to say on this
topic (pag.: 251):-
the question for the arbitral tribunal wht:n asked to ord.:r
r<Ctnstatement 1s not whether the employer had a right of
dismissal availahlc to him at the rclcvant time but whether the
.:x.:rcise of that right was so harsh in all the circumstances as to
have amounted in an industrial sense to an abuse of the power.
One can well understand in an arbitration svs1cm the need to
have a provision in relation t,J private empl;)yers which allow
the examination of the circumstanccs of th<' dismissal and to
grant the power to orda the s.:nant to h.: replace in his
situation if the eircurn,aanccs so warranl."'
Takmg mto account all of tl1" c1rcumstanc<.'s of this case
induding thc issue of costs (below) thc Commission dctem1int:s
that th~'. anwunt of compensation to hc paid pur~uant to scdio11
11 .18( I )(c) hy the rcspondcnt lO the applicant he three months at the
so/my applying as at the date of tcnr1ination. This amount is to be
paid bv 30 Jun<' 199.1. It the Ndcr as to costs (below) had not been
dctennined the Commi~si,.ln \Vtluld haw d<.'cided an amount of 4.5
months.
('osts
Mr Steinitz on behalf of the applicant pr.:senkd a strong
argument seeking that costs be awarded to his client and refcned the
Commission to carlicr decisions where costs had bec:n awarded or
where the general principle of awarding costs wae spelt out.
It is clear to th-: Commission that -- given the age. background
and pcrc1:ived abilities of the applicant -~ it was in the interests of
juq1ce that an agent was heard ,Jn behalf ,lf the applicant and the
Commission so certifi<.'s in accordance with section 8. 18 of the Act.
The Commi$.sion detcm1ines that the respondent be ord..:red to
pa\' r"aHmable costs incurr.:d by the appli..:ant in having thi~ matter
brought to the Commission for detern1ination and adopts the
procedure detern1ined by Fi-;her C. in matter No. 8404 of 1991 as set
out in 139 QGJG at page 68 as follows:
( 1) Mr Steinitz is r.:quired to :-.ubm it an itemised account of
the costs incurred bv him in representing the applicant in
this matter.
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Tiiis account is to b~ submitted to the Industrial Registrar
by close of business on Wednesday 2 June I 993.
T he Co mmi ss i on wi ll mak~ a di!t~nninati \'ltl on r~asonahle.
costs and advise lhc partie, of its de..:ision :1s lo the actu al
quant um dl!l~ nnined as r~asonahh: hy d ose of bu~iness <.lll
Friday 4 June 1993.
Costs are to be paid hy 30 Ju n" 1993.
In detennining to award costs in th is matter th.:, Commission
indicates that it did so with g reat rduct:1n ,· c and was finally swayed
by the fact that it is of henefil for tinanc ial rc,1 st)ns to hoth the
respondent and the app licant if the amo unt of compensat ion is lower
but is partly off-set by a trans fe r of costs from the applicant 10 the
respondent.
Th e Commissic)n endorses the statem ent of Fisher C. in the
decision reforred to ab<ive where she says: -
"I wi sh to c knr lv state that my decision in this ni:ll tcr is in
rc spons\! to th~ Parti c ul ar ~i rcmiH•tances of th is cHs~. 1 am t,f
th ~ v i.!w that th e Co nunissi4.Hl ~h ou ld r~main a jur i s<l i ..:1 i on
where costs are not a ri?g ul..tr featurf!. It is not my ant 1! nt ion that
thi s dec ision be seen as :i dcpai1ure fr om the philos <>ph y
adopte d by this Co mm iss ion and one whid , I bdi.:,w is
supported by 1h e majority of the indus lrial rd atio n~ c.Hnmunity
and th e.! public. Rathl!r. th~ cir..~um st ances l)f 1his ~as..: di.:tat~d a
di ffere nt response than usu :1 I. ".
The Comm ission orders accordingly
In detem1ining this matlt:r th e ClHl11niss ion indica1~s th j 1 ii ha:-:
considered all of th e matuial h.:,forc it in thes<' pnicc~dings and has
had the oppo rtunity of studyi ng each of the witn ess.:s. and th ei r
demeanour, whilst the,· gave e,·idence.
A. I.. HLOOt'-IFIEl.,D. C,Hnmiss i,m~r.
A pp earances:-
M r R. Steinitz for th e app li can l. Mrs 8.C . Daw es .
.vlr R. Beer of the ~lctal T rades lndustrv r\ss,i ,ia t i,>n of Austrn lia.
Quee nsland Branch. Un ion of Empl,,v,,rs. !'or Cr:111c Austra l ia l'ty
Ltd.
Operative Da1e : NIA
Decision - Re in statcrne nl an d ( \,st~
Released : 24 /'.fay 1993
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[4 Jun e, 1993 4 June, I 9931 QUEENSLAND GOVERNMENT INDUSTRIAL GAZETTE 143
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Official source: https://www.sclqld.org.au/caselaw/QIRC/1993/156