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SUPREME COURT
OF
QUEENSLAND
CHAMBERS
SHEPHERDSON
J
REVISED
COPIES ISSUED
State Reporting
Bureau
Date
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1992
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IN
THE.
MATTER
OF
THE CORPORATIONS
LAW·
IN
THE MATTER
OF
BOTAFOGO
PTY
LTD
BRISBANE
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DATE
09/12/92
JUDGMENT
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(EX
TEMPORE
JUDGMENT)
HIS
HONOUR:
The
ANI
Corporation
Limited
trading
as
Steelmark
-
Eagle
&
Globe
has
applied
for the
following
orders:
1.
That
a
copy
of the written
record
of
examination
of
persons
in relation
to
the
affairs
of
Botafogo
Pty
Ltd
(in
liquidation)
held
on
27
and
28
July
1992
pursuant
to section
597
of
the
Corporations
Law
be provided
to
the applicant.
2.
That
the
person
or
persons
who
prepared
the
record
of
examination
or
under
whose
supervision
the
record
was
10
20
prepared
certify in
writing
signed
by
that
person
or
those persons
that
the
record
is
a
true transcript of
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the record
of
examination pursuant
to
regulation
61
of
the
Companies
(Queensland)
Regulation.
There
is
a
third
stage
to
the application, but
that
has not
been
actively
canvassed.
On
18
May
1992
this
Court ordered
that
Botafogo
Pty
Ltd be
wound
up.
One
of the liquidators
is
Ernest
George
Harris.
The
applicant
is
a
creditor
of
Botafogo
in the
sum
of
$136,382.39.
Its
debt
is
said to relate to steel
supplied
by
the applicant to
Botafogo on
credit prior to the
winding-up
order. In fact, the applicant
was
the
petitioning creditor
who
sought and obtained the
winding-~p
order.
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On
24 November
1992
the applicant sent
a
letter
to
the
official
liquidator
posing
a
number
of
questions
in relation
to
Botafogo and
its
affairs.
The
~etter
further
asked
whether
investigations or
examinations
had
taken place
and,
if
so,
whether
they
had
dealt
with
a
number
of
issues,
one
10
of
which
was
whether Botafogo
was
insolvent for
any
substantial
period of
time
prior
to
the
filing
of
the
application for
winding up.
Mr
Harris
by
letter
dated
30
November
1992
responded
to
this
20
.request.
He
gave an
estimate of possible
distribution
of
funds
to
unsecured
creditors
of the
company.
He
concluded
that
there
was
a
possible
dividend
of five cents
in
the
dollar,
but
made
it
clear that this
was
an
estimate
only.
That
letter
of
30
November showed
unsecured
creditors
were
30
·estimated
to
total
$700,000,
so
it
can
be
readily
seen
that
the applicant's
debt
forms
quite
a
substantial part of
those.
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·Now,
in
response
to certain of the questions,
Mr
Harris
informed
the
app~icant
that
the liquidators
had
held
a
public
examination
of
two Westpac employees and an
external
accountant.
They
named
the
Westpac employees
as
Me~srs
Kennedy and Edwards and
the
accountant as
a Mr
Skelton. In
response
to the question
whether Botafogo
was
insolvent for
any
substantial period prior to the filing for application
for
winding up and,
if
so, for about
how
long,
Mr
Harris
said, "In
sworn testimony
Mr Edwards
said that
Westpac
thought that the
company was
insolvent in July 1991."
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Mr
David
Andrew
Fischer,
the
manager
of
the
applicant
in
Queensland, has
sworn
that the
applicant
knew
nothing about
the liquidator
proposing
to
obtain
an
order for the
public
examination
of
any
persons
or
knowing
anything
of the order
or the
public
examination having taken
place.
In
fact,
he
10
has
sworn
that
the applicant
was
unaware
that
a
public
examination
had
taken
place
until
some
considerable
time
after
it
had
occurred.
There
is
before
me
an
affidavit
of
Garry John Hamilton,
a
member
of the
firm
of
Minter
Ellison
Morris
Fletcher
retained
in this
matter
by
Mr
Harris as
official
liquidator.
Exhibited
to that affidavit
is
what
is
called
a
settlement
agreement
prepared
by Feez
Ruthning and
entered
into
between
Westpac Banking
Corporation, Ernest
George
Harris
and John
Robert
Reeves
as liquidators,
Neill
Michael Mulholland
Kennedy,
Allan
Peter
Edwards and
Botafogo Pty
Ltd
(in
liquidation)
•
It is
unnecessary
to
go
to
this
document
in
any
detail,
but
its
presence has caused
Mr
Harris quite
some
concern because
the
agreement
refers to in part
4(a), "Section
592
Investigation".
It
specifically
provides
that the
liquidators shall
not encourage,
agitate or
promote an
action or
claim by any
of the creditors of
Botafogo
against
Westpac
or
any
of
its
officers,
employees
or
agents
including, but without limitation;
Kennedy and Edwards
pursuant to- section
592
of the Corporations
Law
or
any
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of or substitute therefore to the extent that they
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are able
to
covenant
to
this effect
without
fettering
their
statutory
duty
to
the
creditors
of
Botafogo.
Paragraph
4
o£
this
agreement
referred to
recital
G
which
referred
to
a
letter
from
the
liquidators'
solicitors to
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Westpac's
solicitors
dated
15
September
1992
described as
a
letter
of
demand
whereby
the
liquidators
had
made
certain
claims
against
Westpac, namely, and
this
is
one
of the
claims:
"The
liquidators
have
advised
that
they
have been
investigating
possible
claims
against
Westpac and
its
officers,
including
Kennedy
and
Edwards,
under
section
592
of the
Corporations
Law."
Recital
H
said
that
Westpac had
denied
all
allegations
and
claims
made
by
the liquidators.
That
sets
out the
background
to
this
application.
I
should,
I
think,
add
that
Mr
Fischer
in
paragraph
7
of his affidavit
has
said:
"The
applicant
is
now
investigating
avenues
for
the recovery
of
Botafogo's debt
to
it."
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In paragraph
14
he has
said:
"If this
honourable Court
grants the applicant
a
copy
of the transcript
and
the relevant exhibits, the
applicant
proposes
to
review them and
obtain advice
regarding
any
causes of action that
it
may
have
against persons or
companies
to
recover
its
debt
from
Botafogo. In particular, the applicant
is
considering
whether any
actions for insolvent trading
may
lie
against
any person or
company
pursuant to section
592
of the Corporations
Law."
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Section
592
which,
it
will
be
noted,
was
referred
to
in
the
recital
to
the
Westpac
settlement
deed
relevantly
says:
592
(1)
where
(a)
A
company
has
incurred
a
debt (b)
immediately
before
the
time
this
debt
was
incurred
there
were
reasonable
grounds
to
expect
the
company
would
not
be
able
to
repay
all
10
its
debts as
and
when
they
became
due,
or,
there
were
reasonable
grounds
to
expect
that
if
the
company
incurred
the
debt
it
would
not
be
able
to
pay
all
its
debts as
and
when
they
became
due and
the
company was
at
the
time
when
the
debt
was
incurred,
or
at
a
later
time,
a
company
to
20 I
which
that
section
applied,
then
any
person
who
was
a
director
of the
company,
or
took
part in
the
management
of
the
company
at
the
time
when
the
debt
was
incurred
contravenes
that
section
and
the
company
and
that
person,
or
if
there are
two
or
more
such
persons,
those
persons
are
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jointly
and
separately
reliable for the
payment
of
debt.
Subsection
2
thereof
refers to certain
matters
of
defence.
The
transcript in
the present case
was made
under
section
597
of the
Corporations
Law.
Under
section
597
(14)
subject
to
subsection
12A
thereof
any
written record of
an
examination so signed
by
a
person
or
any
transcript of
an
examination
of
a
person
that is
authenticated as
provided by
the rules
may
be used
in
evidence
in
any
legal
proceedings
against the person.
Rule 71(3) of the
Companies (Queensland) Rules enables me.to
authorise the applicant to inspect the transcript of the
two
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days
proceedings
on
27
and
28
July
1992.
It
is
clear
from
earlier
material
that
the
persons
examined
were
the
two
Westpac
officers,
Kennedy
and
Edwards,
and
also
an
accountant, Skelton.
Today
Mr
Traves has appeared
for
Messrs
Kennedy, Edwards
and
'
Westpac
Corporation,
and
his
appearance has
been allowed
pursuant
to
an
order
made
by
Mr
Justice
Cullinane
on
17
November
1992.
Mr
Beale,
solicitor
from
Minter
Ellison
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Morris
Fletcher,
has appeared
for the liquidators
and,
in
20
effect,
has
taken
a
neutral position.
I
should perhaps
at this
stage point out
that
the
transcript
of these
proceedings
is
not
on
the
file
which,
as
I
understand
the rules,
is
where
it
should
be.
It
may
well be
that
the liquidator
himself holds
a
transcript.
The
argument
has been between
Mr
Dunning,
for the applicant,
and
Mr
Traves,
the
latter
relying
on
authority
to
submit,
in
effect, that
as
no
proceedings
have been
commenced
this
is
simply
a ·
fishing expedition,
and
should be dismissed.
the application
is
premature
Both
parties referred
me
to the decision of
Acting
Justice
Needham,
as
he then
was,
in re
Spedley
Securities
(1990)
8
Australian
Company Law
Cases
669.
His
Honour
referred to
relevant legislation.
At
p 671
he said:
"It
seems
to
me
that the Court,
in
determining
whether
it
should grant leave to
any person
to
inspect the transcript of examinations under sec.
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of the Code, should satisfy itself that the person
making the application has a legitimate interest in
inspecting either that transcript or a particular
part of that transcript."
His Honour went on to say:
"I have no doubt that, if a party to litigation can
show that evidence given in those examinations
relates to or could be relevant to a claim made by
that party or by the opposing party in legal
proceedings, prima facie that party or those parties
should have leave to inspect that transcript, or that
portion of the transcript."
I should also say that at p 670 in the right-hand column -
His Honour referred to a change in the legislation from the
provision of a private to a public examination as having to
be given considerable weight. In re Spedley Securities
Limited ex parte Ahrens & Others (1991) 9 Australian Company
Law Cases 118 Mr Justice Young of the New South Wales
Supreme·court, in effect, followed the views of Mr Justice
Needham and applied his test, namely, whether the applicants
had shown a sufficient legitimate interest in~ the
proceedings to be given access to the transcript. However,
it seems to me that Mr Justice Young went a little further.
At p 120 he referred to a submission by the applicant before
him that they had a legitimate interest in seeing the whole
of the transcript and other material in order " (a) to. work
out what their real position is" • His Honour went on in
dealing with that matter to say:
"The Courts have usually considered a mere desire to
know what one's position is as opposed to some real
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apprehension
that
one
is
going
to
take
an
adverse
step against
one
as too
ephemeral
to
be
favourably
protected
by
the
law."
His
Honour
then
referred
to
a
passage
in
the
judgment
of
Mr
Justice
Brennan
in re
an
application
by Tooth
& Company
10
Limited
(1978)
19
Australian
Law
Reports
191
at
p
209.
It
seems
to
me
that
one
should
construe
that
passage
in
the
judgment
of
Mr
Justice
Young
as
indicating
if
an
applicant
can
show
a
real
apprehension
that
he
will
be
prosecuted
or
otherwise
have
some
step
taken
against
him
then
that
is
20
sufficient.
Another
way
of putting
it
is
to
say
if
the
applicant
can
show
that
he has
a
legitimate
interest to
see
the
transcript that will suffice.
This
is
a
matter
referred
to
at
p
123
in
the
judgment
of
Mr
Justice
Young.
It
seems
to
me
that
the authorities to
which
I ·
have been
referred
30
have
indicated rather
a move
away
from what
may
be
thought
to
have been
a
rather
restrictive
approach
taken
by
acting
Justice
Needham.
Mr
Dunning
has
referred
me
to
a
decision of
Mr
Justice
McLelland
of the
New
South
Wales Supreme
Court
equity
division
in re
BPTC
(in liquidation)
(1992) 10
Australian
Company Law
Cases 877.
The
matter there
under
consideration
was
quite distinguishable
from
the present case.
His Honour
said
at
p
885
in
considering the question
now
before
me:
"The examinations
in
question are to
be held
in
public
(sees
597(4)). There
is
no reason in
principle
why
any person with
a
legitimate interest
should not be able to obtain,
at his
own
expense,
a
copy
of the transcript of any such public examination."
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It
seems
to
me
that that
view
has
a
lot
to
commend
it.
Next
is
a
decision of
Senior
Master
Mahony
re
MMC
Pty
Ltd
(in
liquidation)
(1992)
6
Australian
Companies
and
Securities
Reports,
p 741
and
the
comment
on
that
case
by
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Professor
0
'Donovan.
in
Companies
and
Securities
Law
Journal
October
1992
at
pp
346
to
348.
A
matter
considered
by
the
Senior
Master
was
the
undesirable
waste
of costs
which
would
ensue
if
the
order
sought
was
denied
and
the
applicant
left
to
attempt
to
inspect
documents
consequent
upon
discovery,
which
I
gather
was
third
party
discovery.
The
next
matter
to
which
both
parties referred
was
an
unreported
decision of
Mr
Justice
McPherson
in
the
matter
of
Suncoast
Tile
Merchants
Pty
Ltd
(in
liquidation)
{Application
No
98
of
1985)
judgment.
delivered
17
June 1987.
His
Honour
in
that
case refused
to
permit inspection
of the
transcript
saying
at
p 6
of the reasons:
"If the
purpose
of the inspection
is
to
enable
therespondent
to
prosecute those proceedings then
I do
not consider
it
is
sufficient
reason
for
permitting
inspection of the
tran~cript
at this
stage."
In
my
respectful
view,
the judicial
approaches
to this
question
have
shifted
from
those
in
vogue
at
the
time His
Honour
gave
his
judgment
in
1987.
The
final judicial
statement to
which I
wish
to refer is
that of Chief Justice
Mason
in
Hamilton v Oades {1989) 166
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CLR
486
at
p
494,
in
which His
Honour
appears
to
have
approved
the
following statement
by
Windeyer
J
in
Rees
v.
Kratzmann
(1965)
114
CLR
63
at
80:
"The
honest
conduct
of
the
affairs
of
companies
is
a 10
matter of
great
public
concern today.
If
the
legislature
thinks
that
in this field
the public
interest
overcomes
some
of
the
common
law's
traditional
considerations
for the individual,
then
effect
must
be
given
to
the
statute
which embodies
this
policy."
This
statement although
made
in
considering
a
different
20
aspect of
s
541
appears
to
have been adopted by
the Full
Court
of the Victorian
Supreme
Court
in
Friedrich
v.
Herald
and
Weekly Times
Limited
&
Anor
(1990)
8
Australian
Company
Law
Cases
109
at
p
115.
I
revert to the
comment
of
Mr
Acting
~ustice
Needham
that
considerable
weight
must
be
30
given
to
the
change
in
the
legislature
from
these
examinations being
private to
public.
I
do
not think the
applicant
should be disadvantaged
because he
was
not present
at
the public examinations.
The
applicant
was
quite
unaware
until
well
after
the
event
that
the hearings
and
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examinations
were
to
be
held.
As I
said, the applicant's
debt
is
quite
a
substantial part of
all
the
unsecured
creditors of the
company
Botafogo.
I
have decided
that in the present case the applicant
should
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be permitted
to inspect the written transcript of
examination of the persons
Edwards and Kennedy
in relation
to the affairs of
Botafogo Pty Ltd
(in liquidation) held on
27 and 28
July 1992.
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Mr
Dunning
sought
to
have
Skel
ton included
in
the
above
order
and
I
agreed
to this:
I
will
formally adjourn
the
balance
of the
summons
to
a
date
to
be
fixed
to
be brought
on on
four
clear
days
written
notice
to
the other
parties.
(Argument
on
costs).
HIS
HONOUR:
The
orders
on
costs
I
make
are
these:
I
order
Westpac,
Edwards
and
Kennedy
to
pay
the applicant's
costs of
and
incidental to
the
appearances
on 17
November
1992 and
of
today
to
be
taxed.
I
order
Westpac,
Edwards
and Kennedy.to pay
the
liquidator's
costs
of
and
incidental to
its
appearance
on
17
November
1992 ·-to
be
taxed.
I
order the applicant to
pay
the
liquidator's
costs of
16
November 1992
and
today
to
be
taxed.
So
I
effectively
1
Westpac and
the applicant bear
their
own
costs
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