Federated Clerks' Union of Australia (Central and Southern Queensland Branch) Union of Employees and Another v Queensland Confederation of Industry Limited, Union of Employers and Others [1991] QIRC 245 (1991) 137 QGIG 333
330 QUEENSLAND GOVE RN MENT fN DUSTRI AL GAZETTE Ii 3 July, l 991 13 July, 1991] QUEENSLAND GOVER N MENT IN DUSTRIAL GAZETT E 331
QUEENSLAND INDUSTRIAL RELATIONS COMMISSION
lndus1rial Rela1ions Act /990- 199!
s. 10. I 2 - a pplication for variatio n
Federated Clerks' Un ion of Australia (Cen tral
a nd Southern Queensland Branch) Union of
Employees and Another
AND
Queensland Co nfederation of Indust ry Li mited,
Union of Employers and Others
{No R3-3 of 1989)
CLE RKS AN D SW ITCHBOARD ATTENDA ,'ffS ' AWARD -
STATE
COMMISSIONER SWAN 27 June 1991
Resc ission of Award - New Award - Ju risdiction - Union
Coverage - Un ion Constitut ion - Union Rules -list of Callings
- Classification - New Classification - Progressional Schemes
- Change to Co nd itions of Employment - Tech nological C hange
t:1 - Ski ll s - Clerical - Ad m inis trat ive Functions - Finance •-
' Personnel - Supervisory Staff - Special Duties - Education -
Trai ning - Forma! Qua lifications - Interpretation - Ambigu ity
of Terms - Wi tnesses - Precedent - Judicial Precedent -
Public Interest - National Wage Case - Definition - Possib le
Amendmen t - Jurisdict iona l Challenge Refused.
l.,
, .,
DECISION
On 14 Feb ruary 199 1, the Federated Clerks' U nion of Australia
(Cen tral and Southern Queensland Branch) Union of Employees
and the Federated Clerk s' Union of Australia, North Queen sl and
Branch, Union of Employees (FCUl made a Restructuring Appli-
cation - Progress 3 to the Comm issio n for the rescission of both
the "'Clerks and Switchboard Attendants· Award - State" a nd the
"Clerks Award - Me tropolitan Regional Abattoi r" and replace-
ment thereof by a new Award entit led '·Clerical and Adm inistra tive
Employees Award - State".
At the o utset, a jur isd ic tional cha llenge was made by the rep re -
~entati ves fo r the Me tal Trades lnd u5trv Asso ci ation of Australia,
Queensland Branch, Un io n of Emp loyers (MTIA) a nd the Queens-
land Confederation of Ind u st ry Lim ited, Union of Employers (QC I)
with the support of other Emp loyer representat iv es present.
In essence, the challenge centred upon whethe r the applica tion
exceeded, in terms of coverage, the FCU's Consti tution an d reg•
istered List of Calli ngs specifically wi th regard to the inse rt ion and
i ntent th e re of of the term " office adm inis tration".
Mr Belfield, for t he MTIA, contended tha t: -
" Th is matter must be determined by t he Commission prior
to any furt her consideration of the union·s ap pl ication. If,
as we believe, the union's applicat ion is found to exceed
t he union's constitu tional coverage. th en we su bmit t he
app lication is inva li d, and further proceedings wou ld be
unnecessary ." .
Mr Pawlowsk i, fo r the QC!, however, felt t hat t he Un io n sho uld:-
'' .. . apply a mod ification of the applicat ion clause so that
it more rightly reflects the coverage of the list of callings of
the un ion. So, in our view, the application is not necessarily
totally mvalid. Indeed, the Commission has powers under
s. 8.2I(a) to provide whatever relief it sees necessarv to
rect ify si tuations but. in our view, if the Commission finds
- as I believe it must - the application exceeds the
consti tu tional coverage of the u ni on, then we believe, because
of the importance of th is applica tion. t he righ t course would
be for the parties to co n fe r on that mat ter further. That
m igh t result in the sort of di scuss io ns we should have been
havi ng ages ago.".
It is not fo r the Comm ission to debate the me ri ts o r otherwise of
th e a pplica ti o n at th is point in time. Rather, the question for the
Co mmission is to establish wheth er the application lies with in the
ambit of the Union 's constitutional ri ghts.
It should be st ated that t he proposed Award coverage is as fo ll ows:-
" 11WARD COVERAGE
(a) The substi tution of the following words for th e current.
Application of Award clause:
'i .2 A ward Coverage
Th is Clerical a nd Ad mmisuative Emp loyees Award -
Sta te applies to persons em ployed wholly or prin ci pally
in cl erical and /o r office admin i stration, but excludin g:
( a) Any person who is a proprietor. d irecto r or
manager of a compa ny, busi ness or undenak ing,
or a person to whom he or she had been delegated
the right to engage and terminate the employment
of his or her employees.
(b) Emplove.cs under articles to solicitors of the
Supreme Court of Queensland and gcnerai office
and legal office tra inees under the Australian
Trainccship Syst em (A.T.S.) or empioyees covered
by anv oth er Awa rd oi the Austraiian Industrial
Relat[ons Comm ission and /o r t he Queensland
lndustrial Re la ti ons Commi ssion covering cle rical
and/ or administ rative wo rk.'.
(b) The deletion of the exemption rate from the Award.''.
It had been put to the Commissio n by Mr Pawlowski that in te rms
of the classificati on st ructure Grades I through to 7. that up to
Grade 5 contained ·'essentia!lv clerical work" . in terms of Grade
6 "most of it is clerical work· as well. But ihe grey areas and the
adm:ni~trative areas in Grade 6 a re increasing'' : and. as for Grade
7, Mr Pawlowski felt that :-
"m ost of the functions would be of an admi nistrative nature
intermixed with some acrnal clerical fun ctions.".
Proposed Grade 7 funct ions are as follows: -
''GR.ADE 7 ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER
For employees in this grade !he rates of pay and whether
mod ifications may need to be made to th e defini tions wi ll
be determined.
(I) The ski ll levels e mployees in this g ra de a rc required to
use may include:
(2) TECHNICAL SKILLS
(i) Computer - · Skill Le,·ei 6
ab le to:
use and rntegrate a varie1y of application software
packages within a micro; personal compu ter ne twork;
or
use a central computer resource to an equiva lent
sta nda rd; or
e valuate and de termi ne optimu m software solutions
(using existing software/ programs) to meet new or
d i ffe rent applica tion requirements; or
use MACRO funct ion (l ogical ope rators) on a spread-
sheet package.
(i i) Word Processing - Skill Level 5
a b le to:
use all preceding word processi n~ funct ions and intc•
gra te word processing software wn h o ther a pp lication
software packages to produce comp lex text and d ata
documents;
app ly knowledge of Desk Top Publish in g to in tegrate
documents and selec t st yle sh ec1s approp riate w final
presentation:
determi ne all document productio n design needs with•
out ins tructions.
(3) SECRETARIAL SKlLLS - Skill Le ve! 5
ab le w:
arrange confe rences and external meetings; or iginate exec-
utive correspondence; assist executive in prepa ri ng, attending
and following up appo int me nts, interviews, meeti n gs, etc.:
act on delegated authority of executi ve.
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332 QUEENSLAND GOVERNMENT INDUSTRIAL GAZETTE [13 July, 1991
(4J Ei\TERPRISE/1:VDlSTRY KSOWLLD(iE - Shi//
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able to:
assist in developing policy or new products and services to
meet changing market or other circumstances; idemify and
assess internal and external factors impacting on production
and service delivery: identify future trends.
(5) BL.SJVESS/Fl\~4.VCJAL -- Skill Lrvel 7
able to:
assist 111 prcpanng - budgets, cashflow records. balance
sheets. training accounts, cash management analysis. FBT
and company tax requirements:
administer individual execunve salary packages. travd
expenses and allowances, company transport:
administer specialised salary and payroll requirements. e.g.
Eligible Termination Payments, Superannuation Trust Deed
Reqmrcmcnts, redundancy calculations, WorkCare, Main-
tenance Support Scheme. etc.;
assist in financial forecasting;
mterpret and prepare financial information for senior man-
agcmc'.nt and prepare reports and assessment relevant to
areas of responsibility
\6) TRA!Vfl,'Ci ---- Skill Level 4
able to:
assist in the delivery of training courses and apply a knowl-
edge of training materials and aids:
train employees (where appropriate) in Grade 6 by means
of personal instruction and demonstration.
17) SCPERV!SORY -- Sktli Level 3
able to:
plan and organise work priorities of unn or section; resched-
ule work loads as necessary and resolve operational problems
m area of responsibility; monitor work quality of those
supervised: use observations. diagnosis and intervention
skills to ensure unit/section meets objectives: organise and
chair necessar)' work meetings/conferences; assist in plan-
nin~ future sectional/office organisational resources and
eqmpment needs.
18) SPECIALIST -- Skiil Level 4
able to:
use knowledge of basic siatistics to interpret data from
spreadsheets, statistical tables, graphs and frequency tables
usmg tools such as mean, mode, median variation, etc.
apply knowledge of exchange rate fluctuations in areas of
funcuonal re~ponsibilny;
apply workrng knowledge of legal requirements. e.g. personal
mcomc tax and company tax law, contract law, superan-
nuation law, local government and environmental regula-
tion.
(9) Employees m this grade perform clencal and adminis-
trative duties using a more extem,ivc range of skills and
knowledge at a level higher than required in Grade 6. They
art responsible and accountable for thei: O\Vn work, anC.
mav have limned responsibiiir, for the unit/section under
their supervision. They exercise initiative, discretion and
Judgement within the range of then skills and knowledge.
Supervision is br means of reporting to more sen;or officers
as required. (Emphasis added by the Commission).".
There has been considerable judicial and Commission commentary
touching upon the question of scope and depth of coverage in the
clerical area. Suffice to say, that I accept that the thrust of the
commentary views the role of clerical workers in industry generally
as ever changing with advances in education, procedures and
technology. With regard to education alone, it would be accepted
that the educational background of many involved in office clencal
work today would vary dramatically from what was perceived to
be normal ten or more years ago. Coupled with this, would be
resultant advanced skills and responsibilities of the employee
working in tandem with advances in technology.
I am also aware of the arguments against placing a far too liberal
reading upon the Union's list of callings/constitution and in this
context [ endorse the comments of Sheldon J. in Federared Clerics'
['nion o(Au.1tra/ia. Se¾ South Walrs Branch v Aus1ralian Workers·
[inim; (1971) 71 A.R. (:'\.S.W j 419:-
''The Commiss10:1 has described the phrase 'in any clerical
caoacit~' a, a 'wide one', although not without limitations,
ar:G as one cf ·indefinite rneaning'."_
It has been put to me that. over time, the Union could have
expanded their ilst of callings to reflect the changes that they now
argue have occurred. However, in this context. the Union has
contended that the understanding of the callings as outlined has
altered radically and phraseology such as e.g. "or in any other
clerical capacity whatsoever". inherently allows scope for change
and progress.
The Industrial Relatwns A.er 1990-1991 (the Act) details, through
s. l 3,2. /3)(e), the manner by which organisations representing
employees are required to register with the Industrial Relations
Commission their list of callings in respect of their membership.
The Act then elaborates upon means by which alteration or expan-
sion reflecting coverage can occur.
The registered list of callings for the Union contain the following:-
"Persons, male and female, employed either wholly or par-
nal!y in the pursuit or vocation of writing, engrossing. typing.
and/or calculating, whether by ordinary means or by means
of any process or machine calculated to achieve a like result:
and/or in invoicing, billing, charging, checking. or otherwise
dealing with the records, writing, correspondence. books,
and accounts of any person, firm, company, association, or
local authority, employed in trading, receiving, or recording, Ior in any orher clerical capacity whatsoever; and switchboard
attendants: supenntendents, inspectors, canvassers and/or
collectors employed by life insurance companies and/or fire
and accident companies operating in the State of Queens-
land, funeral benefit canvassers and/or collectors.".
An examination of the phraseology ·'employed either wholly or )
partially in the pursuit of .. " and ·'or in any other clerical
capacity whatsoever ... " would suggest that these are not limiting
terms with regard to the Union's potential coverage. It is against
this background that the Commission must determine whether the
range of duties contained in the application exceeds the seemingly
wide parameters of the list of callings which have been registered
in accordance with the requirements of the Act.
There has been considerable litigation over the years focusing upon
the general perception and understanding of the word "clerical''.
In a most recent matter before the Federal Court in Jovce and Ors
1 Chriotoffersen and Or.\ (Gray J unreported Federal Court of
Australia 1990), Gray J cites with approval a passage from Sheldon
J. in FederalC'd Clerks' c·mon o(Austraita, .\'ew South Wales Rramh
v Australian Workers· ['nion (1971) 71 A.R. (N.S.W.) 419 at 42 l:-
·'But an employee does not cease to be employed in a clerical
capacity merely because his work includes many admmis-
trative and non-recording functions. No doubt there are
cases near the border which would be difficult to determine
but m general, and subject to some special categones, those
who are in a subordinate position but are engaged in the .I
ordinary work of office administration are, m my opinion ;
pnma fac1e covered by this constitutional rule. But the
salient pmnt is that for years clerical work had been regarded
for industrial purposes as mcluding more than mere record-
ing and covers work of different kinds which no doubt leads
to or results from recording but in fact is part of the general
office administration system.".
The ''primary function" or "substance'' test explores further the
likelihood of an employee falling under the clerical umbrella and
this point was raised by Burt J. in The Federated Clerks L'nion o/
Australia v Carv Industrial Appeal Court of Western Australia (No
4 of 1977) 1977 W.A.I.G. 585 at 586:-
"Of course one has regard to the substantial nature of the
employment in terms of the purpose to be achieved by it
the question being, I think, very much controlled by the
difference, which is not always accepted by philosophers but
which serves the purposes of practical men, between ends
and means. If in substance the worker's job is to write and
the job is done when the writing has been done then he is
a clerk, but if in substance the writing done by the worker
is but a step taken in the doing by him of something
extending beyond it then he is not. The 'substance' of the
work identifies the question as being one of degree and it
indicates the answer to it will be, or may be very much the
product of a value judgment.".
Judge ?ray in the aforementioned Joyce and Ors \' Christoffersen
and 0 ..s, p. 38, states.-
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"There can be no doubt that the amount of time which an
emplovee spends doing a particular task can be a useful
guide as to whether that task is all or part of the primary
function of that employee. As illustrations given earlier
indicate. however, merely to ciivide up a job in terms of
time spent on different tasks is not necessarily to ascertain
what is the primary function of that job. Nor is the question
of primary function to be determined necessanly according
to how an employee sees the functions, in terms of the order
in which they are carried out, or of their relative importance
in his or her daily activity. Ultimately. the primary function
of an employee must be detern1ined by looking at what he
or she does in the context of the employer· s organisation of
work.".
Mr Belfield addressed the issue of the use of the phrase "office
administration" by arguing that the term was not contained in the
Union rules or list of callings. His comments went to the point
that ambiguitv could easily arise by the use of that term. To this
effect, Mr Belfield called two witnesses who were presently working
in positions which were award-free but who, upon perusing the
Job descriptions con tamed in the different gradings of the proposed
Award, felt that they may well fall within its ambit.
Mr Pawlowski, for the QC!, expressed views similar to those of
Mr Belfield together with his aforementioned commentary regard-
ing his perception of the scope of each listed grading. Mr Pawlowski
further progressed the argument of potenual confusion that the
perceived scope of the Award would cause by stating:-
''further, it is impossible, in my view, for any realistic work
value investi~ation to be undertaken while such widespread
confusion exists on fundamental aspects of the Award and
decisions.".
ln support of their claim that the gradings listed in the proposed
Award satisfied the requirements of their list of callings/constitution
duly registered, the linion relied to a large degree upon the same
case studies as presented by the Employers.
At the outset, however, the Union cited the Australian Industrial
Relations Commission in its February 1989 Review Decision (Print
H8200 page 4) as follows:-
"In many cases, alteration to the coverage of Awards will
also take much time and effort if fundamental change is to
occur. Any proposals for change must be carefully handled.
However, we recognise that, as part of the structural effi-
ciency principle the parties may agree to make changes to
award coverage to facilitate improved efficiency and improved
relations amongst employees and between unions and
Employers. Again, where warranted, change should be made.".
The Cnion further contended that it was not in the public interest
to contemplate and support a mulliplicity of unions and to this
end stated:-
''It is not in the community interest~ to ha,e inefficiency
and disputation which arises from unnecessary competition,
especially where an existing union is standing before this
Commission and saying we are prepared and anxious to
continue representation in that area.".
A proposition was put by the Union that:-
"If the Commission accepts that we do have constitutional
coverage of the employees whose skills are described m our
career structure; and it is decided to exclude employees from
Award coverage if they are in senior managerial posiuons
or senior executive officers OR professionals not wholly or
principally employed in clerical and/or office administration.
then the definitions associated with the new classification
structure could reflect such a decision.".
This view was supported by the Union's citing of the Nat10nal
\Vage Case decision August 1989 (Pnnt H9!00 page 8):-
"We expect that many structural efficiency exercises will
involve new classification structures. In those cases the
parties to particular Awards will need to apply specific
procedures governing the translation of workers from the
old to the new structure. This m turn demands that the new
classification structure levels be clearly defined.".
124382-32
The Union contended that the definitions of clerical/administrative
work up to Level 7 did not overlap executive or managerial callings
and to this end, the inclusion of the words "wholly or principally"
engaged in clerical and or administrative work overcame problems
which might be encountered by other Unions:-
" ... where members perform clerical duties incidental to
their main occupations and it is in the best interests of all
parties to have a more definite meaning.".
The Union scrutinised the decision of Sheldon J. in Federated
Clerks' L-nion of Australia (Xew South Wales Branch) v Australian
Workers' Union 71 AR N.S.W. 419 and referred to the exclusion
of employees from the ambit of the "clerical" umbrella who were
classified as "professional". The Union argued that the use of this
word "professional" currently as opposed to its perceived meaning
in l 971, had expanded sufficiently to encompass many more
persons who had the capacity to fall under the "clerical" banner.
I referred earlier to the expansion of education and technology
generally, but also specifically in the clerical arena.
The Union proceeded to cite many passages from case law focusing
upon the question of correctly interpreting the word "clerical".
Cases referred to viewed the word "clerical" in accordance with
its current denotation and thereby bestowed upon the word its
modern connotations.
The Union went to some length to state that, excluded from its
proposed ambit. were persons fitting the definitions of managerial.
executive and professionals (professionals as viewed in Sheldon J.
usage in l 971 ).
To this effect, the Union referred the Commission to the decision
of the Federal Industrial Relations Commissions in Alcoa of Aus-
tralia Limited v Federated Clerks Union of Australia (Dec. 176/90
S Print J 1640) which excluded from coverage of the Clerks' Award
(Alcoa) a "person in a managerial position" who, by definition,
would be a person "who is a proprietor, director or manager of a
company or business or a person to whom he or she has delegated
the right to engage and terminate the employment of his or her
employees.".
Ms Gibson, for the FCU stated that:-
"we tender this Alcoa decision to show that the Federal
Commission prescribing the Award Coverage confirmed
senior clerical and administrative staff are covered by the
Award which we submit confirms our constitutional cov-
erage of these employees.".
Further, the Union referred to the decision of the Full Bench of
the Victorian Industrial Relations Commission of 2 l December
1990 which stated:-
"We therefore decided to include the exclusion provision
sought by the FCC. This provision is based on a clause
recently inserted into the Clerks (Alcoa of Australia) Award
by the Australian Commission and will ensure that propri-
etors, directors and managers of undertakings and persons
with the right to hire and fire staff are not within the
jurisdiction of the Board. We consider that such categories
of employees are clearly outside the scope of the new
classification structure. The provision will not however,
exclude persons with nominal managerial titles but whose
duties are wholly or principally of a clerical nature.''.
The Union proceeded to display to the Commission many Awards
and Industrial Agreements of this Commission, for which the
Union had preference, which showed that their range of coverage
was extensive and had moved, in some instances, into highly
classified areas within the office structure. Mr Pawlowski saw these
Agreements as constituting "de facto" arrangements between the
Union and the particular Employer and whilst, in a practical sense,
they possess all the hailmarks of real and binding relationships.
they are no more or less than ''de(acto'' relationships. in his view.
Conclusion
On the information before me, I believe that the jurisdictional
challenge should not be upheld. I believe that there is sound
precedent (and this has been detailed in great length in the earlier
commentary) for holding that the scope of "clerical" work can be
intermi;1gled with work of an administratiYe nature and that this
could satisfy the requirements of the Union's registered list of
callings.
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334 QUEENSLAND GOVERNM EN T INDUSTRIAL GAZETTE [I 3 July, 199 1
This view is supponed, in pan. by a considerati on of t he com-
mentarv bv S he ldo n J. in t he aforementioned matter Federated
Clerks'.Union of Australia, New South Wales Branch ,, Australian
IVo rkers· Un io ri ( 19 7 1) 71 A.R. (N .S .W.) 4 19 a t 42 1: -
"No dou bt there are cases near the border which would be
difficult to determin e but in general, and subject to some
special categories, those who are in a subordinate position
but are engaged in t he ordinary work of o ffi ce adm inistration
are, [~ my opinion prima facie covered by this constit utional
ru k . ,
and the over-ridi ng sta t eme nt in the applicati on's Grade 7 Admin ·
istration Officer classification that su pervision of perso ns in this
grading •' is by means of reporting to mo re senior officers as
required.".
I see this demarcation between tbe excluded groupings (i .e. spe-
cifica ll y, any person who is a "proprietor , d irector o r manager of
a company. business or undertaking, or a person to whom he or
she had been delegated the right to engage a nd terminate the
e mp loyment of his or her employees") and other employees within
the office structure as concep tually clear, although, on a practical
leve l, capa bl e of possible con fu sion.
It should be reiterated that all the Commission had befo re it is a
brief detail of what is entailed in each graded listi ng. Prima facie,
the gradings do not seem to me to be inappropriate or outside. the
wide scope possible under the Union's registered list of callings.
If, however, during the hearing of the restructuri ng application.
the re is st ill apparent confusion as to the classifications, then the
applicant may be as ked to be more definiti ve, where possible, in
an attempt to avoid ambigui ty.
By deciding to reject the jurisdictional challenge. the Com mission
in no way wou ld wish the pani es to view this course of action as
sanctioning, of necessity or otherwise, the contents of the proposed
Awa rd app lication. During the hearing of th e app lication the wide r
and more detailed component.s of the proposed Award and its
cl assification structure would need to be addressed and considered.
Man y of the concerns expressed dur ing this hearing would undoubt·
edly be expanded upon.
From the considerab le amount of material and detail put before
me. I believe that one of the primary concerns for the respo ndents
is the potentia li ty fo r ambiguity and uncertainty in det er mining
which em ployees would fall with in the am bit of the proposed
Awa rd. Wh ilst the Co mmission has not had the opponunity to
hear an y detai led debate on this issue at this stage, the real concerns
expressed by the respondents warran t comment.
In th is respect, the dec ision of the Full Bench in the Nationa l
Wage Case of August 1989 (Print H9 I00 page 8) where it states:-
"We expect tha t many structural efficiency exercises will
in volve new classification structures. In those cases the
parties to part icular Awards will need to apply speci fic
procedures go vern ing the translation of worke rs from the
old 10 the new structu re. Th is in tum de man ds that the new
classification structure levels be cl ea rly defined." ,
is high ly pertinent, whilst bearing in mind the constraints of
const itu tiona l coverage of orga nisatio ns.
Funh cr. I endorse the commentary of Sheld on J. in Federazed
Clerks ' Union of Aus1ralia, ,/o;(w South Wales Branch v Australian
Workers ' Union (1971) 7 1 A. R. ( N.S.W.) 41 9 at 42 1:-
''The constitutional rule of the Federated Clerks' Union
provides (i nter alia) coverage for persons 'engaged in an y
clerical capacity' as 'a wide one·, although no t without
limi tat ions, and as one of'indefin ite meaning' (A ccoun tants
and Secretaries Case). I do not regard it as proper to read
it down because the ru le specifies a few special cl asses of
work as being included in it. This phrase. in my view must
be read against_ the background of the way industry has
developed and 1s now co nducted.".
It would o n ly become evident upon hearing mo re detailed debate
during the hearing of the application wh e ther the degree of a mbi-
guity a nd confusion in the proposed gradings would be as acute
as fe ared by the res ponde nts .
However. it is my view, that this issue must be dea lt with during
t he course of the actual hea ring and not at th is s tage.
There wo uld be amp le oppo nunit y during the hearing and pr ior
to any formalisation of triall ing to expand upon areas of concern
and , if need be for the sake of clarity, to exclude specific and
definab le functions from the coverage of the Awa rd . lt may be,
after fun her discussion between the part ie s, that the sta ted exclusion
fro m coverage of"pro prietors, d irectors or managers of compan ies,
b us inesses or undenakings or persons wh o have delegated them
the right to engage and te rmina te the employment of his or her
emp loyees", needs to be expa nded upon in order to correctly reflect
the demarcation I have referred to earlier as being necessa ry .
However th is would presumably become eviden t during the hearing
of the application.
The U nion has indicated, during this hea ri ng. that a defin it ions
clause could be inserted into the proposed new Awa rd to p re clude
areas agreed upon or, if not, then to define more accu ra tely the
new classification struct ure. T he need or otherwise to pursue th is
cou rse of action wo uld become se lf evident during a formal hearing
of the matter.
I ha ve given full and detailed consideration to all the materi al put
before me. however for the reasons stated. I reject the ju risd ic t io nal
chall enge.
Order accordingly.
D .A. SWAN, Com missio ner.
Appearances:-
Ms A. Gibson, with her Ms B. Ca ll aghan for the Federated Cle rks'
Union of Australia (Central and Southern Queensland Br anc h) \
U nion of Employees and the Federated Clerks' Un ion of Australia'. ·t
North Q ueensland Branch, Unio n of Emp loyees.
Mr S. Pawlowski for the Queensland Confedera ti on of Industry
Lim ited, Unio n of Employer s.
Mr M. Be lfield for the Meta l Trades Industry Association of
Australia, Queensland Bra nch, Un ion of Employers.
Mr J. Hardy with him Mr I. Turner for the Austra li an Mines a nd
Metals Associati on (Inc.), Queensland Branch.
Mr P. Boylin foi the Crown and various Gram mar Schools.
Mr K. Ball fo r The Bread Ma nu fac turers of Queensland, Un ion
of Employers.
Mr A. Camp for the Royal Automobile Cl ub of Queensla nd and
the G .W.A.
Mrs H. Blucher for t he R etaile rs' Association of Queensland Li m-
ited, Un ion of Emp loyers.
Mr D. Jones a nd with him Ms M. Bebbi ngton for Queensland
Newspapers and Mirror News papers.
Mr G . Wal ke r for the Queensland Hotels Associat ion, Union of
Employers.
Mr N. Tim o for Th e Australia n Workers' Union of Emp loyees.
Queensland.
Mr T. Da ly for the Motor T ra des Association of Queensland .
Union of Employers.
Mr D. Pct ie for the Austral ian Bank Employees Union . Q ue ensla nd
Division Union of Employees.
Operative Date: N/ A
Dec is ion - J urisdiction
13 July , 1991) QUEENSLAND GOVERNMENT INDUSTRIAL GAZETTE 335
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Official source: https://www.sclqld.org.au/caselaw/QIRC/1991/245