Commissioner for Railways v Australian Railways Union of Employees, Queensland Branch and Another [1991] QIRC 37 (1991) 136 QGIG 421
420 QUEENSLAND GOVERNMENT INDUSTRIAL GAZETTE (9 March, 1991 9 March, 1991] QUEENSLAND GOVERNMENT INDUSTRIAL GAZETTE 421
QUEENSLAND INDUSTRIAL RELATIONS COMMISSION
Industrial Relations Act 1990
s. I0.12 - application for variation
Comm issioner for Railways
AND
Australian Railways Union of Employees,
Queensland Branch and Another
(Nos. BIIO and BI 22 of 1990)
RA ILWAY AWARD - STATE
COMMISSIONER ASHWOOD 25 February 1991
Wages - Oible Jointer - Wage Structure - Wage Differentials
- Definition - Skills - Qualifications - Responsibility -
Training - Inspections by Tribunal - Special case - Wage
Fixation Principl es - Structural Efficiency - Work Value -
Arbitrated Matter - No final Decision on either appli cation at
this time - In light of possible further developments as regards
structural efficiency Decision deferred fo r four month s.
DECISION
These proceedin~s involved the hearing of the two (2) applications
conjointly. Apphcation BI 10 of 1990 filed by the Commissioner
for Railways requested a new structure in the Award for the Cable
Jointer classificatio n, which is set ou t in clause 57 of the Award,
to reflect the appropriate qualifications gained by such employees.
Application BI 22 of 1990 filed by the Australian Railways Un ion
of Employees, Queensland Branch endeavoured to establish appro-
priate Award definitions and pay rates for a new structure of Cable
Jointer classifications as determined by the Com missioner for
Railways, having regard to the skills and responsibilities attached
to such new positions.
In addition to the two applicants. an appearance in the proceedings
was made for The Electrical Trades Union of Employees of Aus-
tralia, Queensland Branch (the ETU).
The Commission was informed that the classification(s) for cable
Jointers initially appeared in this Award as a result of the Industrial
Court of Queensland hearing and determ ining applications 327
and others of 1946 , such classification(s) with attendant rate(s) of
wages became operative from 3 March I 947 ( variation 32 QIG
846).
It is noted that in those proceedings the Commissioner for Railways
did not oppose the insertion in the Award of the Cable Jointer
classification and that such rate was fixed at that of a base grade
tradesman.
Presently the weekly rate for a Cable Jointer is $41 7.30 and the
Comm ission has observed that a similar rate of wage applies in
the Award to Boilermakers, Carpenters, carriage Builders, Electrical
Mechanics, Fitters, Painters, Plumbers, Sheet Metal Workers,
Wagonbuilders, Linesmen (Power) and Telephone Technicians, to
name but a limited number of other classifications.
Inspections of the work of Cable Jointers and other employees in
the Electrical and Signal and Telecommunications Sections were
carried out at Mayne, No;1bgate and Ban yo (Brisbane Metropolitan
Area) and between Gladstone and Rockhampton, Gracemere and
Rockhampton. On several occasions in the course of inspections
Cable Jointers demonstrated to the Commission the wide variety
of equipment used in the course of carrying out their dut ies.
Inspections in Rockhampton, which were undertaken at the request
of the Commissioner for Ra il ways, involved the Ra ilway Centre
where the Commission was shown Railway Control and Com-
munications Equipment from which railway operations from Bun-
daberg to Mackay, west to Winton and involving the mining areas
west of Gladstone and Mackay are centred. In this building the
Commission was shown a wide range of equipment covering such
areas as telemetry, communications, signalling, voice recorders,
modems. centralised traffic controls and microwave. Whi ls t this
equipment did not involve Cable Jointers it was pointed out that
it was ma intained by Telecommunications Technicians.
Further inspections in Rockhampton were undertaken at the Signal
and Telecommunications Workshops where the Commission was
shown the scope of monitoring and repair work carried out by
Telecommunications Technicians and Signal Electricians.
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422 QUEENSLAND GOVERNMENT INDUSTRIAL GAZETTE [9 March, 1991
At the conclusion of the inspections the Commission pointed out
that whilst no formal subm1ss10ns had been made it appeared that
the apphcat10ns should be referred to the Chief Industrial Com-
missioner for decision as to whether the matter should be consid-
ered as a Special Case.
Following consideration of this reference the Chief Commissioner
decided that whilst the applications should be considered as a
Special Case they_ should, as permitted by the Principles, be heard
by the Comm1ss1on as currently constituted and not bv a Full
Bench of the Commission. •
The Commissioner for Railways called evidence from Peter James
Attard who had held_ the position of Divisional Signal and Tele-
commumcat10ns Engineer m the Central Division of Queensland
Rail for five and a half (5 1/2) years. In addition to explaining the
area of his responsibilities the witness advised that the basic
functio~ of a Cable Jointer was to carry out the maintenance and
installation of all types of cables used by Queensland Rail. He
went on to explain the qualifications of Cable Jointers and referred
to (study) courses completed by Cable Jointers employed by
Queensland Rail.
He gave evidence that with the advent of main line electrification
ope_n wire pole routes were replaced by underground cable and
optical fibre cable was installed as the main bearer of the com-
munications system.
Eviden_ce was given as to the duties undertaken by Cable Jointers
in the JOinting of optical fibres. (This area of Cable Jointers work
had b_een demonstrated to the Commission in a workshop situation
in Brisbane and adJacent to the railway line north of Gladstone.)
The witness explained that the skill involved in jointing optical
fibre was more practical than educational skill.
In recent years breaks with optical fibre cables were less than two
(2) breaks per 100 kilometres per year and in the main such
breakages were due to backhoes or other machinery digging over
cable routes or optical fibre being washed away in floods.
Further in evidence Mr Attard stated:-
"_In comparing Cable Jointers with other classifications espe-
cially Signal Electnc1ans, and Telecommunications Tech-
nicians Gra_des I and II in the types of work performed, I
would classify Cable Jointers as being comparable with the
base grade of the Electrical trades, i.e. Electrical Mechanic
or Telephone Technician.".
The second witness called by the Commissioner for Railways was
Mervyn John Green who was the Lines and Cables Engineer in
the Chief Signal and Telecommunications Engineer's Branch. Mr
Green had been in that Branch for eighteen (18) years with twelve
( 12) years in his present position.
His evidence included a statement to the effect that Queensland
Rail was m the process of phasing out overhead lines and intro-
ducing underground cables and that this work should be completed
m five (5) years. One of the results will be that prior to that time
Queensland Rail would accumulate a surplus of "overhead
linesmen".
Mr Green advised that for many years other tradesmen had
accepted that cable jointers and linesmen as having "tradesman
status".
In cross~examination Mr Green pointed out that presently Queens-
land Rail had one hundred (100) overhead linesmen and eight (8)
cable Jointers.
The witness agreed that in relation to the changes occurring in
this area of Queensland Rail operations, matters were at as "a
trans1t10nary stage".
On commencing submissions in support of application BI 10 of
1990 the Commissioner for Railways drew the attention of the
Commission to six (6) matters contained in the Statement of Facts
and Issues, these items are listed below:-
"(i) The application seeks to provide a structure for employ-
ees in the Cable Jointer classification in Clause 57 which
reflects the appropriate qualifications gained by those
employees.
(ii) The new positions of Cable Jointer Grade II and Senior
Cable Jointer have been established to parallel the classifi-
cauons_ of Linesmen and Senior Railway Linesman (Power)
respectively.
(iii) These changes are necessary due to the reduced require-
ment of Q.R. to use overhead power, signal and commu-
nication lines and the increased need to use underground
cabling.
(iv) To allow for greater flexibility of those employees in
the Linesman grade, suitable qualification courses have been
established which allows these employees to carry out the
increasing functions and duties of Cable Jointers.
(v) _This flexibility is then enhanced by creating the new
pos1t10ns in Clause 57.
(vi) The Railway Staff By-Law 1175 of 1985 was amended
in Clause 39(4) to provide equal avenues of promotion for
both Cable Jointer and Linesman through to Cable Jointer
in Charge and_ Linesman in Charge. Criteria for appointment
to those class1ficat10ns are now set out in the Bv-Law 1224
of 1989.". •
Included in the points made for Queensland Rail during the
submissions were:-
• The application sought to recognise the experience gained
by Cable Jointers and put a suitable structure in the Award.
• The present Award has provision only for the classification
of Cable Jointer.
• Proposed structure would have the following alignments
with related employees:-
Cable Jointer II - Linesman ($371 p.w.)
Cable Jointer I - Linesman (Power) ($417.30 p.w.)
Senior Cable Jointer - Senior Linesman ($426.20
p.w.)
• At present for employees to be appointed as Cable Jointers
they are required to be "suitably employed" in assisting a
classified Cable Jointer in his everyday duties.
• Under proposals employees would commence as a Labourer
gain experience and skill to comply with criteria for clas~
sification as Cable Jointer II.
• To be appointed to Cable Jointer I a requirement of two
(2) years experience as Cable Jointer II, pass required exam-
mat10ns and be issued with a certificate of competency.
• The new classification of Senior Cabie Jointer allows for
a structural promotional avenue for employees within the
Cable Jointer classifications.
• Queensland Rail requested rates of pay for new classifi-
catwns based on rates previously determined by this Com-
misswn.
The Australian Railways Union of Employees, Queensland Branch
(the ARU) in commencing submissions in relation to Bl22 of 1990
amended their application with the result that the following rates
were requested:-
Cable Jointer II - $435.50 (present rate for Signal Electri-
cian Grade II);
Cable Jointer I - $454.60 (present rate for Senior Railwav
Electrician); •
Senior Cable Jointer - $477.00 (present rate for Electronics
Tradesmen).
T_he ARU submitted that in amending their application the Union
did so "in order that an ambit might be established to facilitate
an upward movement beyond that amount set bv the claim lodged
by the Railway Department". •
The Union called evidence from John Churchill employed by
Queensland Rail as a Cable Jointer for ten (10) years.
In course for evidence Mr Churchill referred to his education
training and experience. The witness gave evidence as to the area~
of the State in which he had worked as a Cable Jointer, the
eqmpment he had used in various aspects of his duties and to the
need for maintenance of the cables.
The Union then proceeded to make submissions as to the rates of
pay proposed by both applications and made the observation that
unless some clarification was made by Queensland Rail some
present employees could be reduced in pay as the rate proposed
for Cable Jointer II was less than the present rate for a Cable
Jointer.
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Whilst the Union understood the proposal by Queensland Rail as
to the need for flexibility the definitions proposed by Queensland
Rail could result in "provision for cheap labour".
The ARU drew to the attention of the Commission that for a
considerable period of time "Cable Jointers in Q.R. have enjoyed
tradesman status".
The Union submitted in line with Award Restructuring Principles
recognition should be given to Cable Jointers having in mind the
changing nature of the Railway Industry.
In summary the ARU submitted that the present base rate of a
Cable Jointer should be preserved and not reduced as proposed
by Queensland Rail and the new rates could b~ established for the
Cable Jointer I and Senior Cable Jomter class1ficat1ons.
Further it was submitted that insofar as Cable Jointers in Queens-
land R~il are concerned, work requirements will increase and there
will be changes in technology. It follows that there will be a greater
emphasis on training and the extent and intensity of such training
should be remunerated.
The opportunity was then given to the ETU to present submissions.
It should be noted that this Union had participated in all inspections
and in the examination of witnesses.
'1. supporting the application by the ARU, the ETU submitted
}nat a case had been established for the proposed structural changes.
It was pointed out that similar changes in classification and rates
of pay had occurred in the Electrical an~ Signal and Telecom-
munications Sections of Queensland Rail. These changes had
resulted in certain classifications receiving rates of pay in excess
of the "base tradespersons rate".
ln replying to ARU submissions Queensland Rail clarified that it
was not their intention for any employee on the present Cable
Jointers classification to have their wages reduced should their
application be granted.
Further, Quee_nsland Rail submitted that the inspections. did not
provide a basis for mcreases m rates of pay for Cable Jointers as
proposed by the ARU application.
Conclusions
In the course of considering the material placed before it in these
proceedings, together with the information gained from the inspec-
tions, the Commission took the opportunity to refer back to the
most recent Decision given by this Commission as to the Second
Payment under the Structural Efficiency Principle and matters
1ssociated with structural efficiency in the Railway Industry and
iie Railway Award - State (134 QGIG 242-4).
It is noted that in that Decision the Commission noted the work
of the various Co-ordinating Groups formed within the Railway
Industry and received reports, as exhibits, from such groups includ-
ing the Signals, Telecommunications and Electrical Maintenance
Group containing an outline of the activities of that group and
lecommendations made.
Submissions in those proceedings went on to outline proposals for
the new wage and classification structures within the Railway Award
- State.
In granting the Second Progress Payment by that _Decision the
Commission indicated it was mindful of the ongomg nature of
matters relating to structural efficiency in Queensland Rail.
The nature of the proposals put to the Commission on that occasion
and the appreciation of such proposals causes me to hesitate on a
final Decision on these applications.
The Commission has been made aware of the work of Cable
Jointers in Queensland Railways and of the work of other employ-
ees in the Electrical and Signal and Telecommunications Outside
Section of Queensland Railways who are on either the same rate
of pay or on a higher rate of pay.
For the Commission to even contemplate a change in structure of
Cable Jointer classification(s) could cut across matters proposed in
the course of progressing structural efficiency in Queensland Rail.
The above comment should not be construed as meaning the
Commission would accept that a Special Case has been made out
and the work value of Cable Jointers has increased in accordance
with the relevant Principle of this Commission.
The parties should bear in mind that an increase in_the knowledge
of an employee which enables him to carry out his duties could
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have resulted from changes in techniques, methods and procedures.
Such changes may not be the basis for accepting that the work
value of the particular employee has increased in accordance with
the Work Value Principle of the Commission.
In handing down the Decision to grant the Second Progress Pay-
ment and associated matters the Commission was of the view that
matters relating to structural efficiency in Queensland Railways
would have progressed much further than appears to be the case
at the present time.
Accordingly the Commission will not make a final Decision on
either application at this time. In the light of possible further
developments as regards structural efficiency in Queensland Rail,
the Commission proposes to defer such Decision on these appli-
cations for four ( 4) months from the date of this Decision.
At the conclusion of such period the parties are given liberty to
request that the applications be relisted for further hearings in
order that further submissions can be made to the Commission
in the light of circumstances applying at that time.
It may well be that developments as to structural efficiency in
Queensland Railways in those four months could occur resulting
in a number of the proposals canvassed in these proceedings being
resolved.
Order accordingly.
G.M. ASHWOOD, Commissioner.
Appearances:-
Mr P. Lucas and Mr B. Janke for Queensland Railways.
Mr L. Crofton and Mr R. Chilcott for the Australian Railways
Union of Employees, Queensland Branch.
Mr N. Roberts and Mr W. Randall for The Electrical Trades Union
of Employees of Australia, Queensland Branch.
Operative Date: N/A
Decision - Cable Jointers
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