Denis, Denis & Ladgaul Pty Ltd v McMahon & Anor [1990] QSC 226
IN THE SUPREME COURT
OF QUEENSLAND
ROCKHAMPTON --
BETWEEN:
AND:
AND:
AND:
DELIVERED the
No. 76 of 1985
DRAGO DENIS and SOPHIA DENIS
First Plaintiffs
LADGAUL PTY. LIMITED
Second Plaintiff
ROBERT DOYLE McMAHON trading under the firm
name or style of R. McMAHON & ASSOCIATES
First Defendant
V.A.J. BYRNE AND COMPANY
Second Defendant
JUDGMENT - DEMACK J.
twelfth day of July 1990.
CATCHWORDS: Chamber summons - Further and better answers to
Interrogatories - Principals to be applied - Further and
better particulars distinguished
COUNSEL: Mr JONES Q.C.
Mr. BRITTON
SOLICITORS: MESSRS GRANT &
SIMPSON
MESSRS REES R. &
SYNDEY JONES
for Applicant/Defendant
for Respondent/Plaintiff
for Applicant/Defendant
for Respondent/Plaintiff.
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IN
THE SUPREME
COURT
OF
QUEENSLAND
ROCKHAMPTON
BETWEEN:
AND:
AND:
AND:
No. 76
of
1985
DRAGO
DENIS
and
SOPHIA DENIS
First Plaintiffs
LADGAUL
PTY. LIMITED
Second
Plaintiff
ROBERT
DOYLE
McMAHON
trading
under
the fiim
name
or
style
of
R.
McMAHON
& ASSOCIATES
First
Defendant
V.A.J.
BYRNE
AND
COMPANY
Second
Defendant
JUDGMENT
-
DEMACK
J.
DELIVERED
the
Jzv<
c/fZ:-
day
of
/,t,
I,
I
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,1
I
1990.
In
this
action the
plaintiffs
sue
the
first
defendant
for professional
negligence as
a
solicitor arising
out of
the sale of
a
business.
The
statement of claim runs
to
15
pages.
Mr
and
Mrs
Denis (Denis) were
the shareholders
and
directors of
Ladgaul Pty. Limited (Ladgaul).
Mr
and
Mrs
Juric (Juric)
and Ladgaul
jointly
owned
land
at
Stanthorpe
and were the shareholders in Cottonvale
Distilleries
Pty Ltd
(Cottonvale). Denis and
Juric consulted the
first
defendant
about the business carried
on by Cottonvale.
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2
Various
written
documents were
prepared
by
the
first
defendant
and
the
plaintiffs
allege
that
out of
all
these
transactions
they
suffered
a
loss
of
$180,000.00.
I
shall
turn
now
to
the
interrogatories
which
the
first
defendant
contends
in
this
application
answered
or
more
fully
answered.
should
have been
2G
The
plaintiffs
have answered
this
interrogatory,
but
the
first
defendant's
solicitor
claims
it
is
not
correct.
I
am
not able
to
understand
how
this
can
be
the
subject of
an
order for further
answers.
Briefly the interrogatory
asks
l
the
terms
of the advice given
by
the
first
defendant
to
the
plaintiffs
when
he
drew up
three
documents
in
February,
1984.
The
answer
is
to
the
effect that
by
executing the
three
documents
they
were
selling their
shares
in
the
business for
$180,000.00.
The
fact that
the
solicitor's
examination
of the three
documents
does
not
disclose
this
does
not
prove
the
answer
is
incorrect.
This
is, after all,
an
action for professional
negligence
on
the
part of the
first
defendant.
I
shall
not order
any
further
answer
to
2G.
4C
and
4D
Interrogatories
4C
and
4D
ask the value of the
plaintiffs'
equity (the\inJbusiness conducted
by
Cottonvale.
The
plaintiffs
object to
answering
this
on
the basis that
this
seeks an
expert opinion that they are not qualified to
give. That seems
to
me
to
be
correct.
Even
if
the
plaintiffs
had possession of the
company
records, which they
do not, the best they could give would be book values, which
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3
may bear no relationship to commercial values, particularly
when the business in question was a Plum Brandy distillery.
The product in storage, if any, may have become very
valuable or quite worthless. I shall not order any further
answer.
1 4 (a) , 1 4b, 1 4c
Interrogatory 14 in its three parts asks for
particulars of the skill, judgment and advice of the first
defendant which the plaintiffs relied on.
The plaintiffs declined to answer these questions on
the basis that this was a matter for further and better
particulars rather than interrogatories. In my opinion that
is correct.
It is true that in Green -v- Green (1912) S.R. (N.S.W.)
126, Simpson J. divided interrogatories into four
categories, the first being "in the nature of a demand for
further and better particulars." However in the 3rd ed. of
Halsbury's Laws of England, vol. 12, p. 75 it is said,
"The defendant has been refused leave to
interrogate the plaintiff as to what the
negligence alleged consisted of .... where this
information could be obtained by means of
particulars: O'Meara -v- Stone (1884) W.N. 72."
That report is not available to me, but it is, in my
opinion, correct. The facts which prove negligence should
be alleged inthe pleadings. The pleadings "give fair
notice of the case which has to be met so that the opposing
party may direct his evidence to the issue disclosed by
them." (per Lord Normand,Esso Petroleum Co. -v- Southport
Corporation (1955) 3 All E.R. 864, at 868. The pleadings
define the issues between the parties which the Court must
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4
determine. These issues are usually defined by counsel
rather than by the litigant, so that they can be expressed
in a way that is known to the law. Order 22, r. 1 describes
the way the plaintiffs' statement of claim should be drawn,
and 0.23, r.1 permits an order for further and better
particulars. In my opinion, the questions asked in
interrogatory 14 are properly a request for further and
better particulars, and I shall not order the plaintiffs to
answer these questions.
15(a), 15(b), 15(c), 15(d)
These interrogatories relate to the value of Cottonvale
on 1st May, 1984. The plaintiffs decline to answer them on
the basis that they took no part in the business after mid
March, 1984 and on the basis that the answer calls for an
expert opinion which they are not qualified to give.
The records of Cottonvale are accessible to the
defendant by third party summons, so that there is no reason 4
to require the plaintiffs to do what the defendant can do
for himself. So far as an expert opinion is concerned, I am
satisfied these questions are of the same kind as those in
interrogatory 4. I shall not order the plaintiffs to answer
them.
16(a) and 16(b)
These interrogatories ask about guarantees given by the
plaintiffs. The plaintiffs say they signed many documents,
but do not know if they signed guarantees.
Again this is a matter where third party discovery is
available to the defendant and I can see no basis for
ordering the plaintiffs to seek out such documents, and
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admit
they
examination
5
signed
them.
This
is
in
on
the
sworn
answers.
the nature of cross-
This
will
be
done
at
trial.
As
the matter stands, the
answers have been
given,
and
I
shall
not
order
further
answers.
17(a)
and
17(b)
These
questions
also
relate
to
guarantees
and
the
same
answer
is
given as
was
given
to interrogatory
16.
I
shall
not order
further
answers.
18
This
interrogatory
asks about
plaintiffs
equity
in
Cottonvale,
and
the value
of
I
shall
not order
further
answer
for
the reasons
stated
previously.
21, 22, 23, 24,
25
and
26
the
any
These
questions
seek
particulars
of
damages
and
should
be
treated
as
particulars that
form
part
of the pleadings.
They
will significantly
delineate the issues.
I
shall
not
order
any
further
answers.
27(e),
28(iii)
and
28(v),
29(iii),
30, 31, 32,
33(iii),
34, 35,
36
and
37
Interrogatories
27
to
38
ask
many
questions
about
paragraph
18
of the
Statement
of
Claim, which
particularises
the allegation of negligence
made
against the defendant.
The
plaintiffs
have answered
some
questions,
and
refused to
answer
others.
Only
some
of those
which have
not
been
answered
are the subject of
a
request for further
and
better
answers.
Generally, these questions are
a
request for
particulars. It
seems
to
me
to be timely to recall
Bowen
L.J. 'swords in Ratcliffe -v- Evans (1892) 2 Q.B. 524,
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6
(1891-4)
All
E.R.
Rep.
699,
at
p.
604:-
"As
much
certainty
and
particularity
must
be
insisted
on,
both
in
pleading
and
proof
of
damage,
as
is
reasonable,
having
regard
to
thecircumstances
and
to
the
nature of the
acts
themselves
by
which
the
damage
is
done.
To
insist
upon
less
would
be
to relax
old
and
intelligible
principles.
To
insist
on
more
would
be
the
vainest
pedantry."
My
impression
of the
answers
that
have been
given
to
this series
of
interrogatories
is
that
they
do
disclose
the
plaintiffs'
case
and
clarify
the
issues.
I
am
of
the
view
that
the questions
were
really
a
request for
particulars,
and
that
the
answers
provide reasonable
particularity.
I
shall
not order
further
answers,
ahd
I
doubt
that
there
should
be any
further particulars.
39(iii)
This
interrogatory
raises
a
different
issue
from
the
others.
It
asks
for the substance of
instructions
given
to
the
first
defendant,
and
then
asks:-
"How,
if
such
instructions
were
followed
by
the
Defendant,
would
the
plaintiffs
not
have
sufferedthe loss referred to
herein?"
That,
of course,
is
not
a
question
relating to facts,
but
to
an
opinion.
Order 35,
r.
1
provides,
"Interrogatories
which do
not
relate to
any
matters in question in the cause
shall
be
deemed
irrelevant,
notwithstanding
that
they might be
admissible
on
the oral
cross-examination of
a
witness."
It
may
be
possible to
ask
this
question in cross-
examination, but that is
doubtful as
it
is
merely
a
question
which asks the
plaintiffs to
comment upon
the folly of their
instructions.
However
in interrogatories
it
is
not,
' ' in
my
opinion,
a
proper question because the plaintiffs' opinion
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7
of
their
instructions
to
the
first
defendant
is
not
relevant
to
any
issue,
and
is
not
a
fact that
can be
admitted
or
denied.
I
shall
not order
any
further
answer
to that
interrogatory.
The
summons
is
dismissed with
costs.
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