Carr v North [2012] QCAT 392
CITATION: Carr v North [2012] QCAT 392
PARTIES: Justin Stanley Carr
v
Verity Kate North
APPLICATION NUMBER: MCDO246-12
MATTER TYPE: Other minor civil disputes matters
HEARING DATE: 28 June 2012
HEARD AT: Brisbane
DECISION OF: Paul Favell, Member
DELIVERED ON: 3 July 2012
DELIVERED AT: Brisbane
ORDERS MADE: The respondent to pay the applicant
$25,000.00 by 4pm 19 September 2012.1
CATCHWORDS: Whether a money loan or a gift – if loan,
terms of loan – if money repayable – if
money repayable, when – whether interest
APPEARANCES and REPRESENTATION (if any):
APPLICANT: Justin Stanley Carr
RESPONDENT: Verity Kate North
REASONS FOR DECISION
[1] The applicant seeks an order from the Tribunal that the respondent pay
$25,000.00 together with a filing fee of $265.00. Interest is claimed for 365
days at 10% per annum.
[2] The applicant and the respondent were for a time involved in a personal
relationship.
[3] The applicant was a business development manager and the respondent
was at times part-employed by Harcourts and the proprietor of a beauty
business and entertainment business.
1 Amended by order of the Tribunal on 20 August 2012.
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[4] The applicant was in the process of building a house on land that he owned
at North Lakes and the respondent was paying off a house at a different
address at North Lakes.
[5] At some stage, the applicant moved in with the respondent at her house.
He says that that was convenient because he and the respondent wanted
to save money. He says that the arrangement was that he would pay half
of all the utilities and other bills for the house. He did not otherwise pay
rent.
[6] The applicant‟s claim is that he lent money to the respondent and he now
wants to be repaid.
[7] The applicant contends that the respondent is indebted to him for
$28,248.00 made up as a loan of $15,000.00 in respect of a Mercedes
debt, a loan of $3,500.00 to complete the purchase of a Murano car, a loan
of $4,270.00 for carpets at the respondent‟s house and a loan of $5,478.00
in respect of bench tops at the respondent‟s house.
[8] Where a transfer of money is not stipulated to be either a loan or a gift, the
contrary evidence provided by each party must be evaluated to determine
whether the transfer was a gift (in which case in order to be effective at law,
there must be contemporaneous delivery and intention to gift) or whether
the transfer had any of the features of a loan (i.e. a provision for interest, or
whether any repayments have been made) (Ozick v Ozick [2012]
FMCAfam 310).
[9] A loan from one person to another does not require a contract for a loan, it
may be created simply by the agreement to transfer the money. It is
necessary to look to the intention of the parties at the time the money was
transferred, as the transfer of money must be with the knowledge and
acquiescence of the parties, including an intention to create legal relations
(Zamia Investments Pty Ltd & Anor v Mesana Pty Ltd [2011] QCA 274).
[10] Having examined the available evidence, it must be decided on the
balance of probabilities whether the transfer was a loan or a gift (Ozick v
Ozick [2012] FMCAfam 310).
[11] If a loan is established, in the absence of an agreement as to repayment,
the law will presume that the debt is repayable on demand, or at a
reasonable time thereafter (Zamia Investments Pty Ltd & Anor v Mesana
Pty Ltd [2011] QCA 274). In every contract for the loan of money there is
an implied obligation on the part of the borrower to repay the loan (NZI
Capital Corp v Child (1991) 23 NSWLR 481).
[12] That the amounts of money asserted were paid by the applicant to the
respondent or paid directly to providers of services on behalf of the
respondent, is not disputed.
[13] The respondent disputes that she has an obligation to pay the applicant the
money claimed because she says it was not a loan but rather it was a gift.
To the extent that the claim exceeds the monetary jurisdiction of the minor
civil dispute jurisdiction of this Tribunal, the applicant seeks $25,000.00.
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[14] It is common ground that there was no agreement as to any timing for
repayment, nor was there any agreement as to an interest rate which was
to apply to the money advanced.
[15] When Mr Carr gave evidence, he said that on each occasion he said words
which included the word „loan‟.
[16] With respect to the $15,000.00 loan concerning the Mercedes debt, he said
he offered to the respondent the loan and said he “would loan $15,000.00
to clear the debt.” He said that the respondent was relieved and excited
that she could get rid of the debt and she accepted the $15,000.00. He
said that he would not give $15,000.00 as a gift. He said that the
circumstances surrounding the offer made by him were that he received a
phone call from the respondent in which she was clearly distressed and he
told her during the conversation that he would loan her $15,000.00 and
discuss it when he got home. He said that he told her she could repay it
when she could afford to.
[17] The respondent, at some stage, was purchasing a Murano vehicle but she
could only borrow $50,000.00 towards the cost of the vehicle. The
applicant said that he offered to loan the balance of the cost of the vehicle
to the respondent and said he told her there was no rush in paying it back
but she could pay it back when she could afford to pay it back.
[18] So far as the moneys advanced in respect of the carpet and the kitchen
bench tops are concerned the applicant said that he offered to loan the
respondent money to do the carpets in the house and told her that she
would have to pay him back. However, no time frame for repayment was
set.
[19] He said that whilst he was living at the respondent‟s house he contributed
equally to the bills and towards the end of the relationship, because of an
illness of the respondent recently diagnosed as Lupus, he would “tip in
more for the bills.”
[20] The respondent gave evidence that that applicant never used the word
„loan‟ in conversations with her. She also said there was never any
mention of the word „gift‟. There was no mention of any repayments or
interest.
[21] In giving her account the respondent, in my view, was vague. I do not find
that she is in any way dishonest but on her own admission, on occasions
when these money issues arose she was distraught and upset.
[22] I accept the assertions by the applicant that he did offer to loan the
respondent various amounts of money as set out above and that the
respondent accepted those offers of amounts to be loaned. I also accept
that he always intended the money advanced to be loans and not gifts.
The agreement was in itself very vague but I think it was a loan on terms
that it would be repaid when the respondent was in a position to make the
repayment or at a reasonable time after demand.
[23] Demands have been made for repayment and no repayment has been
made or offered.
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[24] There was no agreement as to interest and I find that the true nature of the
advances was that they were loans with no interest component repayable
on demand or at a reasonable time thereafter.
[25] The order is that the respondent pay the applicant $25,000.00 by 4pm 19
September 2012.2
2 Decision corrected, at the Tribunal's initiative, pursuant to section 135 (1) of the
Queensland Civil and Administrative Tribunal Act 2009.
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Official source: https://www.sclqld.org.au/caselaw/QCAT/2012/392